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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby hover11 » January 12th, 2025, 8:02 pm

UNC just hadda play that trump card, we know PNM Manifesto wouldn't say shite. Give the ppl what they want and deliver. I sure like 2020 election , pnm wouldn't have a manifesto. What they going and promise that they couldn't deliver with two consecutive terms that they magically going to make possible if given another term?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Gladiator » January 12th, 2025, 9:45 pm

alfa wrote:I would think if you support PNM you'd be glad kamla seems hell bound on a losing streak. But I seeing just as much PNMites getting butt hurt that kamla remaining the undisputed leader of her party as I'm seeing UNC people complaining about Stewart Young.
Strange times


I think the 7 day memory infecting most of Trinidad. We seem to forget that Stewart Young was the minister of National Security for a significant part of the PNM's 10 year stint. The massive increases in murder rate, gang violence and crime all happened when he was "in charge" between 2018 and 2021

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby dogg » January 13th, 2025, 10:53 am

Koonoomoonlar retire yet to give the UNC a chance?

No? Awrite then. PM young for 5 more years.

By then Kamlar will be in her wheelchair bawling to call elections. Tuner sycophants will still be supporting her. UNC will continue to be irrelevant.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby hover11 » January 13th, 2025, 11:09 am

dogg wrote:Koonoomoonlar retire yet to give the UNC a chance?

No? Awrite then. PM young for 5 more years.

By then Kamlar will be in her wheelchair bawling to call elections. Tuner sycophants will still be supporting her. UNC will continue to be irrelevant.
Trinis will continue to suffer don't forget that part


PNM: We doing a pack of shite like raising gas three times. Economy in a mess and these asses keep voting for us. Look at that they voting for us again. We will make sure they suffer more.
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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby MaxPower » January 13th, 2025, 11:28 am

hover11 wrote:Trinis will continue to suffer don't forget that part


J,

Like you still not understanding bro.

The vast majority of Trinis vote for what suffers them the most, every single time for elections.

Complacency is embedded in the DNA of the typical Trinidadian.

You understand PNM has a very high probability of winning right?

Trinis bawl and cry about crime and economy and still vote for those who suffer them.

Trinis bawl and cry for salaries and food prices….bawling and crying for forex….but yet, 10 year car loans, iphone 16 pro max 1TB, carnival fete/costume, rum and cigarette, fast food and social media we outside posts and heavy support for the same ppl that hogging all the forex and belly bussin with imported foreign ting. When will T&T learn?


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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby hover11 » January 13th, 2025, 11:34 am

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hover11 wrote:Trinis will continue to suffer don't forget that part


J,

Like you still not understanding bro.

The vast majority of Trinis vote for what suffers them the most, every single time for elections.

Complacency is embedded in the DNA of the typical Trinidadian.

You understand PNM has a very high probability of winning right?

Trinis bawl and cry about crime and economy and still vote for those who suffer them.

Trinis bawl and cry for salaries and food prices….bawling and crying for forex….but yet, 10 year car loans, iphone 16 pro max 1TB, carnival fete/costume, rum and cigarette, fast food and social media we outside posts and heavy support for the same ppl that hogging all the forex and belly bussin with imported foreign ting. When will T&T learn?


Do you agree Jason?
Max you hit the nail on the head, we are the asses and shall remain the asses

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby j.o.e » January 13th, 2025, 12:18 pm

I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby hover11 » January 13th, 2025, 12:23 pm

j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?
Why and we could let PNM lead us down the path of destruction. What I do know is that dragon gas is as good as dead with the US having their eyes on Maduro. The PNM put all their eggs in one basket and now there is nothing to prop the economy. Rowley said dark days ahead for us until 2027 I believe it will much longer than that given the new developments. Funny enough , had kamla said such there would have been protests in the streets from the moment she announced such but when PNM does it , it's business as usual. Now is not the time to be in government, let the PNM clean up the shite they created

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » January 13th, 2025, 12:41 pm

hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?
Why and we could let PNM lead us down the path of destruction. What I do know is that dragon gas is as good as dead with the US having their eyes on Maduro. The PNM put all their eggs in one basket and now there is nothing to prop the economy. Rowley said dark days ahead for us until 2027 I believe it will much longer than that given the new developments. Funny enough , had kamla said such there would have been protests in the streets from the moment she announced such but when PNM does it , it's business as usual. Now is not the time to be in government, let the PNM clean up the shite they created

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Kamla will lead us to the prosperity. Jubilee oil field will be the game changer. I don't know why all the beatup over Rowley leaving. Isn't victory assured in a few months? Hover, answer this question.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Mmoney607 » January 13th, 2025, 1:58 pm

wing wrote:
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j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?
Why and we could let PNM lead us down the path of destruction. What I do know is that dragon gas is as good as dead with the US having their eyes on Maduro. The PNM put all their eggs in one basket and now there is nothing to prop the economy. Rowley said dark days ahead for us until 2027 I believe it will much longer than that given the new developments. Funny enough , had kamla said such there would have been protests in the streets from the moment she announced such but when PNM does it , it's business as usual. Now is not the time to be in government, let the PNM clean up the shite they created

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Kamla will lead us to the prosperity. Jubilee oil field will be the game changer. I don't know why all the beatup over Rowley leaving. Isn't victory assured in a few months? Hover, answer this question.

Stuart Young is food

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby zoom rader » January 13th, 2025, 2:18 pm

j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?
Victory is in Tobago,

PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government.

But keep focusing on UNC while Tobago runs away

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby MaxPower » January 13th, 2025, 4:34 pm

j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?


It was never a sure victory.

Rowley had it locked though, i think.

But with Stuart there now, he will pull some UNC votes.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » January 13th, 2025, 4:37 pm

Where's matrix

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » January 13th, 2025, 7:33 pm

j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?


we just have to make sure and get international observers. caricom observers could come but also from the commonwealth and carter center too. wicked pnm WILL try to steal the election again


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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » January 13th, 2025, 8:04 pm

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j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?


we just have to make sure and get international observers. caricom observers could come but also from the commonwealth and carter center too. wicked pnm WILL try to steal the election again

Why caricom observers not good enough?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » January 13th, 2025, 8:51 pm

^ you putting guyanese to monitor we election, after what happened there?

if you want ppl to respect the result, put caricom yes but why leave out commonwealth and carter? what are you scared of them seeing?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Mmoney607 » January 13th, 2025, 9:09 pm

MaxPower wrote:
j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?


It was never a sure victory.

Rowley had it locked though, i think.

But with Stuart there now, he will pull some UNC votes.

Foster coulda do something but Stuart don't have it at all

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » January 14th, 2025, 6:00 am

paid_influencer wrote:^ you putting guyanese to monitor we election, after what happened there?

if you want ppl to respect the result, put caricom yes but why leave out commonwealth and carter? what are you scared of them seeing?
Just say what you really think...white = right

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » January 14th, 2025, 7:30 am

wing wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:^ you putting guyanese to monitor we election, after what happened there?

if you want ppl to respect the result, put caricom yes but why leave out commonwealth and carter? what are you scared of them seeing?
Just say what you really think...white = right


just say what you really want.. PNM to tief the election

We as a country have to be chupid to let that happen for the sake of appeasing wicked, nasty, corrupt, sociopathic PNMites like yourself.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby mero » January 14th, 2025, 7:41 am

Men starting to sound unhinged in this thread yes lmao.

And we sheiting on Guyanese ppl again now? I thought UNC esp would welcome Guyanese observers.

Guyanese take note.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » January 14th, 2025, 11:10 am

paid_influencer wrote:
wing wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:^ you putting guyanese to monitor we election, after what happened there?

if you want ppl to respect the result, put caricom yes but why leave out commonwealth and carter? what are you scared of them seeing?
Just say what you really think...white = right


just say what you really want.. PNM to tief the election

We as a country have to be chupid to let that happen for the sake of appeasing wicked, nasty, corrupt, sociopathic PNMites like yourself.
The pp stole the election in 2010. Prove me wrong.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby MaxPower » January 14th, 2025, 11:13 am

Mmoney607 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
j.o.e wrote:I thought this election was a sure UNC victory. Why is the tune changing ?


It was never a sure victory.

Rowley had it locked though, i think.

But with Stuart there now, he will pull some UNC votes.

Foster coulda do something but Stuart don't have it at all


You and I, and most of us here know Stuart doesnt have it in him at all..

But he will still get votes.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Tezzadude » January 14th, 2025, 12:02 pm

UNC is a rebrand of several now defunct parties that all amalgamated into one yellow house of supposed sunrise simply because they knew then that it was impossible to dethrone the machine of the well established institution and organization of the PNM. Like how China rules the world without military intervention, so does the PNM rule our d2d governance. From HDC to EBC and the fake plus duplicate jobs of a lot of state run organizations and companies and even within the Ministries (hence they are all over staffed and ineffective/inefficient), there is no way you can go against such a Goliath of a party unless you sort of repeat 1986 with a twist. The PNM is also close with the unions and the criminal elements. Go back in history and listen to what Bakr said in the past. It will shock you.

So how exactly is it possible for the UNC to win when they fighting each other down so bitterly? They don’t have an alignment of ideals, they don’t seem to be in sync with each other, they have to rely on partnerships/coalitions and they don’t have proper successorship planning. How exactly can a Hindu person attract non Hindu voters and the catholic/christian crowd especially of the west and Tobago?

Then there’s a sizable chunk of Muslim and Hindu voters who don’t even support the UNC. It is ludicrous to think that the UNC is an Indian party when the truth is it have thousands of Indians that vote for the PNM. But how many whites and Africans actually vote for the UNC?

Me personally, I don’t see the UNC coming into power any time soon. They are just as imperfect as the PNM because they have done corrupt things too. The PNM putting Stuart Young in that position means he will appeal to typical PNM crowd in addition to getting the whites, the almost white fair skin crowd and the liberated Indians of Hindu and Muslim faiths to vote for him. It was a strategy move, a check mate move in this political game of chess. Frankly, the UNC has no one who can reinvigorate the party and bring it together like it was in 1995, 2000 and 2010.

We all know Jerlene John doesn’t stand a chance to be PL, we know Anil can’t do it or the likes of Khadijah, Sadam, Barry or worse yet even Moonilal. Mikela, Phillip, Gary, Nicholas and Kezel etc IMO seem to have been financed distractions for the split vote concept. COP and ILP failed miserably because of the split vote and it appears to have been a deliberate move.

The future of opposing politics in this country is simply to keep the government in check (if at this rate they manage to get a seat or 2 or something substantial enough to affect bills and laws passing). Our democracy and politics will probably morph into a substantial majority government in the house of representatives with some opposers holding on to a free salary and a diplomatic passport.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby death365 » January 14th, 2025, 12:23 pm

all yuh had to say iz crab in a barrel. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Tezzadude wrote:UNC is a rebrand of several now defunct parties that all amalgamated into one yellow house of supposed sunrise simply because they knew then that it was impossible to dethrone the machine of the well established institution and organization of the PNM. Like how China rules the world without military intervention, so does the PNM rule our d2d governance. From HDC to EBC and the fake plus duplicate jobs of a lot of state run organizations and companies and even within the Ministries (hence they are all over staffed and ineffective/inefficient), there is no way you can go against such a Goliath of a party unless you sort of repeat 1986 with a twist. The PNM is also close with the unions and the criminal elements. Go back in history and listen to what Bakr said in the past. It will shock you.

So how exactly is it possible for the UNC to win when they fighting each other down so bitterly? They don’t have an alignment of ideals, they don’t seem to be in sync with each other, they have to rely on partnerships/coalitions and they don’t have proper successorship planning. How exactly can a Hindu person attract non Hindu voters and the catholic/christian crowd especially of the west and Tobago?

Then there’s a sizable chunk of Muslim and Hindu voters who don’t even support the UNC. It is ludicrous to think that the UNC is an Indian party when the truth is it have thousands of Indians that vote for the PNM. But how many whites and Africans actually vote for the UNC?

Me personally, I don’t see the UNC coming into power any time soon. They are just as imperfect as the PNM because they have done corrupt things too. The PNM putting Stuart Young in that position means he will appeal to typical PNM crowd in addition to getting the whites, the almost white fair skin crowd and the liberated Indians of Hindu and Muslim faiths to vote for him. It was a strategy move, a check mate move in this political game of chess. Frankly, the UNC has no one who can reinvigorate the party and bring it together like it was in 1995, 2000 and 2010.

We all know Jerlene John doesn’t stand a chance to be PL, we know Anil can’t do it or the likes of Khadijah, Sadam, Barry or worse yet even Moonilal. Mikela, Phillip, Gary, Nicholas and Kezel etc IMO seem to have been financed distractions for the split vote concept. COP and ILP failed miserably because of the split vote and it appears to have been a deliberate move.

The future of opposing politics in this country is simply to keep the government in check (if at this rate they manage to get a seat or 2 or something substantial enough to affect bills and laws passing). Our democracy and politics will probably morph into a substantial majority government in the house of representatives with some opposers holding on to a free salary and a diplomatic passport.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Tezzadude » January 14th, 2025, 12:28 pm

Sorry Sir. Crab in a barrel.

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Postby j.o.e » January 14th, 2025, 12:56 pm

Tezzadude wrote:UNC is a rebrand of several now defunct parties that all amalgamated into one yellow house of supposed sunrise simply because they knew then that it was impossible to dethrone the machine of the well established institution and organization of the PNM. Like how China rules the world without military intervention, so does the PNM rule our d2d governance. From HDC to EBC and the fake plus duplicate jobs of a lot of state run organizations and companies and even within the Ministries (hence they are all over staffed and ineffective/inefficient), there is no way you can go against such a Goliath of a party unless you sort of repeat 1986 with a twist. The PNM is also close with the unions and the criminal elements. Go back in history and listen to what Bakr said in the past. It will shock you.

So how exactly is it possible for the UNC to win when they fighting each other down so bitterly? They don’t have an alignment of ideals, they don’t seem to be in sync with each other, they have to rely on partnerships/coalitions and they don’t have proper successorship planning. How exactly can a Hindu person attract non Hindu voters and the catholic/christian crowd especially of the west and Tobago?

Then there’s a sizable chunk of Muslim and Hindu voters who don’t even support the UNC. It is ludicrous to think that the UNC is an Indian party when the truth is it have thousands of Indians that vote for the PNM. But how many whites and Africans actually vote for the UNC?

Me personally, I don’t see the UNC coming into power any time soon. They are just as imperfect as the PNM because they have done corrupt things too. The PNM putting Stuart Young in that position means he will appeal to typical PNM crowd in addition to getting the whites, the almost white fair skin crowd and the liberated Indians of Hindu and Muslim faiths to vote for him. It was a strategy move, a check mate move in this political game of chess. Frankly, the UNC has no one who can reinvigorate the party and bring it together like it was in 1995, 2000 and 2010.

We all know Jerlene John doesn’t stand a chance to be PL, we know Anil can’t do it or the likes of Khadijah, Sadam, Barry or worse yet even Moonilal. Mikela, Phillip, Gary, Nicholas and Kezel etc IMO seem to have been financed distractions for the split vote concept. COP and ILP failed miserably because of the split vote and it appears to have been a deliberate move.

The future of opposing politics in this country is simply to keep the government in check (if at this rate they manage to get a seat or 2 or something substantial enough to affect bills and laws passing). Our democracy and politics will probably morph into a substantial majority government in the house of representatives with some opposers holding on to a free salary and a diplomatic passport.


This man come to talk sense on tuner. Every election people say UNC will win , then they fail and then the “ah leaving the country for good” thread will bump …. Rinse and repeat

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby zoom rader » January 14th, 2025, 6:16 pm

j.o.e wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:UNC is a rebrand of several now defunct parties that all amalgamated into one yellow house of supposed sunrise simply because they knew then that it was impossible to dethrone the machine of the well established institution and organization of the PNM. Like how China rules the world without military intervention, so does the PNM rule our d2d governance. From HDC to EBC and the fake plus duplicate jobs of a lot of state run organizations and companies and even within the Ministries (hence they are all over staffed and ineffective/inefficient), there is no way you can go against such a Goliath of a party unless you sort of repeat 1986 with a twist. The PNM is also close with the unions and the criminal elements. Go back in history and listen to what Bakr said in the past. It will shock you.

So how exactly is it possible for the UNC to win when they fighting each other down so bitterly? They don’t have an alignment of ideals, they don’t seem to be in sync with each other, they have to rely on partnerships/coalitions and they don’t have proper successorship planning. How exactly can a Hindu person attract non Hindu voters and the catholic/christian crowd especially of the west and Tobago?

Then there’s a sizable chunk of Muslim and Hindu voters who don’t even support the UNC. It is ludicrous to think that the UNC is an Indian party when the truth is it have thousands of Indians that vote for the PNM. But how many whites and Africans actually vote for the UNC?

Me personally, I don’t see the UNC coming into power any time soon. They are just as imperfect as the PNM because they have done corrupt things too. The PNM putting Stuart Young in that position means he will appeal to typical PNM crowd in addition to getting the whites, the almost white fair skin crowd and the liberated Indians of Hindu and Muslim faiths to vote for him. It was a strategy move, a check mate move in this political game of chess. Frankly, the UNC has no one who can reinvigorate the party and bring it together like it was in 1995, 2000 and 2010.

We all know Jerlene John doesn’t stand a chance to be PL, we know Anil can’t do it or the likes of Khadijah, Sadam, Barry or worse yet even Moonilal. Mikela, Phillip, Gary, Nicholas and Kezel etc IMO seem to have been financed distractions for the split vote concept. COP and ILP failed miserably because of the split vote and it appears to have been a deliberate move.

The future of opposing politics in this country is simply to keep the government in check (if at this rate they manage to get a seat or 2 or something substantial enough to affect bills and laws passing). Our democracy and politics will probably morph into a substantial majority government in the house of representatives with some opposers holding on to a free salary and a diplomatic passport.


This man come to talk sense on tuner. Every election people say UNC will win , then they fail and then the “ah leaving the country for good” thread will bump …. Rinse and repeat
He listed the faults on both sides, something that you have never admitted to on the faults of the PNM.

Everything he posted is correct and is what I have been writing about for years on tuner, to which I get the most cuss on.

UNC was never an Indian party as you have shady injuns vote for PNM, the injuns in suits who only care about themselves and their pockets.

I always said Indians will jump ship to full their pockets, but you won't even see 1%, white, or Chinese voting UNC.

I asked you countess amount of times to list the faults in pnm, and you, like others, evaded the question.

It's good to see that you agree to PNM unions, churches, Abu Baka, and criminal gangs.

Peope like you, JOE, are scum as you only see one side of the coin.

When an opposition opposes PNM bills, then idiots like u will find all sort of faults as they did not support a bill.

Then again, u all call the opposition to keep the PNM in check, see you bias, and one-sided idiots like you are

I maintain you are Racist little Kant

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby hover11 » January 14th, 2025, 6:36 pm

I hear UNC promise 20 percent salary increase....Yellow is the code for public servants

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