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kezay wrote:^^ Any good tuner knows if you upgrade with high lift cams then upgraded valve springs is a must. But Brent didn't know that. As a matter of fact he has been asking a long time ago about what cams could work with the stock valvetrain and I mentioned the Buddyclub but that was a long time ago. Brent if I lie tell me so. (Remember you don't have to lie to me)
zer0xp wrote:kezay wrote:^^ Any good tuner knows if you upgrade with high lift cams then upgraded valve springs is a must. But Brent didn't know that. As a matter of fact he has been asking a long time ago about what cams could work with the stock valvetrain and I mentioned the Buddyclub but that was a long time ago. Brent if I lie tell me so. (Remember you don't have to lie to me)
If you told the man that, you're the one who caused his engine to blow in the first place! lol!
Unless you're talking stage 1 cams of some sort, then okay, you're right. But that applies to any cam manufacturer.. anything stage 2 and above and lol. Let's see brent slap in my KME's with his stock valvetrain -- that'd be funny!
kezay wrote:zer0xp wrote:kezay wrote:^^ Any good tuner knows if you upgrade with high lift cams then upgraded valve springs is a must. But Brent didn't know that. As a matter of fact he has been asking a long time ago about what cams could work with the stock valvetrain and I mentioned the Buddyclub but that was a long time ago. Brent if I lie tell me so. (Remember you don't have to lie to me)
If you told the man that, you're the one who caused his engine to blow in the first place! lol!
Unless you're talking stage 1 cams of some sort, then okay, you're right. But that applies to any cam manufacturer.. anything stage 2 and above and lol. Let's see brent slap in my KME's with his stock valvetrain -- that'd be funny!
No No he was asking about what cams make the best power that could work with the stock valve train. That is why I told him about the Buddyclubs and also IB stage 2 cams.
zer0xp wrote:kezay wrote:zer0xp wrote:kezay wrote:^^ Any good tuner knows if you upgrade with high lift cams then upgraded valve springs is a must. But Brent didn't know that. As a matter of fact he has been asking a long time ago about what cams could work with the stock valvetrain and I mentioned the Buddyclub but that was a long time ago. Brent if I lie tell me so. (Remember you don't have to lie to me)
If you told the man that, you're the one who caused his engine to blow in the first place! lol!
Unless you're talking stage 1 cams of some sort, then okay, you're right. But that applies to any cam manufacturer.. anything stage 2 and above and lol. Let's see brent slap in my KME's with his stock valvetrain -- that'd be funny!
No No he was asking about what cams make the best power that could work with the stock valve train. That is why I told him about the Buddyclubs and also IB stage 2 cams.
hoss ibspec stage 2 and bc spec 4 don't work wit stock valvetrain.. never ever
kezay wrote:zer0xp wrote:kezay wrote:zer0xp wrote:kezay wrote:^^ Any good tuner knows if you upgrade with high lift cams then upgraded valve springs is a must. But Brent didn't know that. As a matter of fact he has been asking a long time ago about what cams could work with the stock valvetrain and I mentioned the Buddyclub but that was a long time ago. Brent if I lie tell me so. (Remember you don't have to lie to me)
If you told the man that, you're the one who caused his engine to blow in the first place! lol!
Unless you're talking stage 1 cams of some sort, then okay, you're right. But that applies to any cam manufacturer.. anything stage 2 and above and lol. Let's see brent slap in my KME's with his stock valvetrain -- that'd be funny!
No No he was asking about what cams make the best power that could work with the stock valve train. That is why I told him about the Buddyclubs and also IB stage 2 cams.
hoss ibspec stage 2 and bc spec 4 don't work wit stock valvetrain.. never ever
Brother do your research, Call Jeff @ Import Builders and tell him Eber tell yuh to call him as well I didn't say Buddyclub Spec 4. I said buddyclub in general because they have a profile that will work with the stock valvetrain and it makes good power.
honda hoe wrote:sigh....
kezay your FACTS are wrong...
i may not be as knowledgeable as u may think u are...
but i throw out dis question to u
if i bought whatever brand cams capable of swinging, say, 10,000... i would not do it on a stock valvetrain...
even if i had an upgraded valvetrain i still wouldn't do it because my crank is not balanced for 10,000 rpm
as kes will tell u... the 1st time my car wuz tunes, the rev limit was at 9200rpm... and he lowered it for me
man gone back swingin 9200rpm again on the dyno
when the valve break it was at 8600/8700 rpm
i don't know if due to the 'age' of my engine i.e 112000kms there were sum weak parts
i am waiting for engine to be opened to see for myself before i start pointing fingers
but sadly i may just have to accept the fact dat the tuner didn't know what he was doing :roll:
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