Flow
Flow
TriniTuner.com  |  Latest Event:  

Forums

Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

this is how we do it.......

Moderator: 3ne2nr Mods

User avatar
tr1ad
2NR phototakerouter
Posts: 10960
Joined: October 23rd, 2006, 1:02 pm
Location: Is ah ranking ting
Contact:

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby tr1ad » December 30th, 2011, 1:39 pm

yes, they with the ema

User avatar
konartis
Shifting into 6th
Posts: 2119
Joined: January 11th, 2011, 11:22 am
Location: south

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby konartis » December 30th, 2011, 8:28 pm

just know that EMA police is SRP's eh :D , lol, i know a few of them!! anyways I took the last working day to find out about the cones, and boy we are in trouble :( ..but as i said..they dont know the power that they have, because like the normal thing in government they dont properly train their work force and educate them to the laws and the power and control that they have...anyways as i said we are in trouble an i got away :wink: !!! below is the laws governing the traffic wardens

Pursuant to Section 3(1) of the Motor Vehicle and Road Traffic (Enforcement and Administration) Act;

Chapter 48:52 a Traffic Warden is empowered to issue a fixed penalty ticket to any driver found to be
in breach of any offence listed in the First Schedule to the said Act, such breaches include:

· Breach of Parking Laws
· Breach of Seatbelt Laws
· Breach of Mobile Phone Regulations
· Breach of Road Traffic Signs
· Breach of Traffic Lights



Provision for the appointment and functions of Traffic Wardens is stipulated in Section 10A of the
Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic Act; Chapter 48:50 and, as such, Traffic Wardens possess full authority
for the regulation, control and enforcement of traffic to:

· Stop a vehicle
· Request drivers’ permits
· Order the removal of illegally parked vehicles



Section 10A (3) of the Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic Act; Chapter 48:50 states:

Any driver who:

a) fails to comply with the directions given by a Traffic Warden while on duty;
b) obstructs a Traffic Warden in the execution of his duty, or aids or incites any other person not to
comply with the directions of a Traffic Warden or to obstruct a Traffic Warden in the execution of his duty,
is guilty of an offence and is liable to fine and imprisonment in accordance with the law.


The attire of the Traffic Wardens on patrol will be:

· White shirt with sleeves bearing the Official Traffic Warden Insignia
· Black trousers with yellow stripe
· Black hat with black and yellow checkered hat band

now they have power to issue tickets for the first scheduled offences, which is almost all of the traffice offences, however there are offences under the Motor and vehicle regulation, dont have a list, but they are a little different, they dont posess any power of arrest under this act, so if you were to disobey them, they will have to proceed by summons or call a police to assist, the general idea was that they go out with police and assist them in the execution of their duties, but we see them alone, anyways thats my contribution here!! so dont do as i did..you might meet one that is educated enough to know what their powers are and blaze your ass with tickets!!!! :shock:

User avatar
rollingstock
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 17931
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 8:21 am
Location: Ain't got no chill!

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby rollingstock » December 30th, 2011, 8:46 pm

^ All that is lie!
Dey does paint dem orange and put then in the centre of the road.

User avatar
*$kїđž!™
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 11111
Joined: December 25th, 2006, 2:58 pm
Location: VIP SECTION

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby *$kїđž!™ » December 30th, 2011, 8:48 pm

good info....

User avatar
BrotherHood
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 8250
Joined: October 20th, 2010, 2:41 pm
Location: Bringing HID & LED to a location near you! 355-3165. 704-5442 (WhatsApp).

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby BrotherHood » December 31st, 2011, 2:44 am

rollingstock wrote:^ All that is lie!
Dey does paint dem orange and put then in the centre of the road.

:lol: :lol: :lol: must be RS eh.
BrotherHood wrote:
Peanut Punch wrote:this is just like the time the environmental police took my car because i made a wrong turn or something ..... got back my car the next day from the police station, ... no ticket, no charge ... here look you keys mam' ... few months later found out they had no jurisdiction to impound my vehicle.

:? it have such police? environemtal police :?: :?: :?:
tr1ad wrote:yes, they with the ema


Peanut Punch, the only reason I could see EMA Police taking your car is if you were in some violation of an environmental law, i.e a noisy vehicle or loud instruments from a vehicle. Can't see how it was because you 'made a wrong turn or something...'.

User avatar
gt4tified
punchin NOS
Posts: 4480
Joined: May 13th, 2004, 3:17 pm
Location: not in de hood but under a hood

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby gt4tified » December 31st, 2011, 3:49 am

konartis wrote:just know that EMA police is SRP's eh :D , lol, i know a few of them!! anyways I took the last working day to find out about the cones, and boy we are in trouble :( ..but as i said..they dont know the power that they have, because like the normal thing in government they dont properly train their work force and educate them to the laws and the power and control that they have...anyways as i said we are in trouble an i got away :wink: !!! below is the laws governing the traffic wardens

Pursuant to Section 3(1) of the Motor Vehicle and Road Traffic (Enforcement and Administration) Act;

Chapter 48:52 a Traffic Warden is empowered to issue a fixed penalty ticket to any driver found to be
in breach of any offence listed in the First Schedule to the said Act, such breaches include:

· Breach of Parking Laws
· Breach of Seatbelt Laws
· Breach of Mobile Phone Regulations
· Breach of Road Traffic Signs
· Breach of Traffic Lights



Provision for the appointment and functions of Traffic Wardens is stipulated in Section 10A of the
Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic Act; Chapter 48:50 and, as such, Traffic Wardens possess full authority
for the regulation, control and enforcement of traffic to:

· Stop a vehicle
· Request drivers’ permits
· Order the removal of illegally parked vehicles



Section 10A (3) of the Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic Act; Chapter 48:50 states:

Any driver who:

a) fails to comply with the directions given by a Traffic Warden while on duty;
b) obstructs a Traffic Warden in the execution of his duty, or aids or incites any other person not to
comply with the directions of a Traffic Warden or to obstruct a Traffic Warden in the execution of his duty,
is guilty of an offence and is liable to fine and imprisonment in accordance with the law.


The attire of the Traffic Wardens on patrol will be:

· White shirt with sleeves bearing the Official Traffic Warden Insignia
· Black trousers with yellow stripe
· Black hat with black and yellow checkered hat band

now they have power to issue tickets for the first scheduled offences, which is almost all of the traffice offences, however there are offences under the Motor and vehicle regulation, dont have a list, but they are a little different, they dont posess any power of arrest under this act, so if you were to disobey them, they will have to proceed by summons or call a police to assist, the general idea was that they go out with police and assist them in the execution of their duties, but we see them alone, anyways thats my contribution here!! so dont do as i did..you might meet one that is educated enough to know what their powers are and blaze your ass with tickets!!!! :shock:


Good stuff there konartis, but coming back to the OP’s Aunt’s situation, the TW was out of jurisdiction to trespass within the driver’s private property (this is what a counter-claim can amount to) and order the driver to proceed in the absence of a lawful authority, to a lawful authority for action to be taken. In other words, without the presence of a police officer, the cone had no right to do what he/she did and as someone said, the driver can now, in furtherance to registering a complaint with the PCA, can bring action of her own against the officer for trespassing on private property, kidnapping (although this may be far-fetched, since the driver did take the cone to the police station).

I don’t even think that most police officers would have entered the person’s vehicle on such a claim. They would usually direct the driver to report to the officer in charge at the nearest police station, and any Sergeant, Ag. Sergeant or higher ranking official would, upon hearing the driver’s claim, allow the person sufficient time (24-48hours) to produce proper documentation supporting his/her claim.

So, if the requirement for admission as a police officer is 3CXC, I ‘fraid to ask what the same is for cones?

crazychinee
3NE2NR is my LIFE
Posts: 779
Joined: August 5th, 2005, 7:07 am

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby crazychinee » December 31st, 2011, 8:40 am

gt4tified wrote:
konartis wrote:just know that EMA police is SRP's eh :D , lol, i know a few of them!! anyways I took the last working day to find out about the cones, and boy we are in trouble :( ..but as i said..they dont know the power that they have, because like the normal thing in government they dont properly train their work force and educate them to the laws and the power and control that they have...anyways as i said we are in trouble an i got away :wink: !!! below is the laws governing the traffic wardens

Pursuant to Section 3(1) of the Motor Vehicle and Road Traffic (Enforcement and Administration) Act;

Chapter 48:52 a Traffic Warden is empowered to issue a fixed penalty ticket to any driver found to be
in breach of any offence listed in the First Schedule to the said Act, such breaches include:

· Breach of Parking Laws
· Breach of Seatbelt Laws
· Breach of Mobile Phone Regulations
· Breach of Road Traffic Signs
· Breach of Traffic Lights



Provision for the appointment and functions of Traffic Wardens is stipulated in Section 10A of the
Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic Act; Chapter 48:50 and, as such, Traffic Wardens possess full authority
for the regulation, control and enforcement of traffic to:

· Stop a vehicle
· Request drivers’ permits
· Order the removal of illegally parked vehicles



Section 10A (3) of the Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic Act; Chapter 48:50 states:

Any driver who:

a) fails to comply with the directions given by a Traffic Warden while on duty;
b) obstructs a Traffic Warden in the execution of his duty, or aids or incites any other person not to
comply with the directions of a Traffic Warden or to obstruct a Traffic Warden in the execution of his duty,
is guilty of an offence and is liable to fine and imprisonment in accordance with the law.


The attire of the Traffic Wardens on patrol will be:

· White shirt with sleeves bearing the Official Traffic Warden Insignia
· Black trousers with yellow stripe
· Black hat with black and yellow checkered hat band

now they have power to issue tickets for the first scheduled offences, which is almost all of the traffice offences, however there are offences under the Motor and vehicle regulation, dont have a list, but they are a little different, they dont posess any power of arrest under this act, so if you were to disobey them, they will have to proceed by summons or call a police to assist, the general idea was that they go out with police and assist them in the execution of their duties, but we see them alone, anyways thats my contribution here!! so dont do as i did..you might meet one that is educated enough to know what their powers are and blaze your ass with tickets!!!! :shock:


Good stuff there konartis, but coming back to the OP’s Aunt’s situation, the TW was out of jurisdiction to trespass within the driver’s private property (this is what a counter-claim can amount to) and order the driver to proceed in the absence of a lawful authority, to a lawful authority for action to be taken. In other words, without the presence of a police officer, the cone had no right to do what he/she did and as someone said, the driver can now, in furtherance to registering a complaint with the PCA, can bring action of her own against the officer for trespassing on private property, kidnapping (although this may be far-fetched, since the driver did take the cone to the police station).

I don’t even think that most police officers would have entered the person’s vehicle on such a claim. They would usually direct the driver to report to the officer in charge at the nearest police station, and any Sergeant, Ag. Sergeant or higher ranking official would, upon hearing the driver’s claim, allow the person sufficient time (24-48hours) to produce proper documentation supporting his/her claim.

So, if the requirement for admission as a police officer is 3CXC, I ‘fraid to ask what the same is for cones?

SEA pass ftw.

User avatar
konartis
Shifting into 6th
Posts: 2119
Joined: January 11th, 2011, 11:22 am
Location: south

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby konartis » January 1st, 2012, 1:10 pm

well to get technical...if the woman had no insurance and they made her drive to the station and knowing that she didnt have the insurance, and then charged her for driving without a valid insurance then they could site duress, and even say that they warden aided and abetted the offence by simply allowing her to drive on the road way..knowing AT THAT TIME the said traffic warden had knowledge that the insurance wasnt valid or she failed to produce it...the magistrate would have no other option to dismiss the case..

sotf
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 140
Joined: May 18th, 2008, 9:15 pm

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby sotf » January 1st, 2012, 10:46 pm

Thanks for the info konartis.....good to know

User avatar
bushwakka
punchin NOS
Posts: 4353
Joined: August 24th, 2007, 1:02 pm
Location: GPS unavailable

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby bushwakka » January 2nd, 2012, 3:13 pm

y dey dont lose de station diary as they always apt to do

User avatar
rollingstock
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 17931
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 8:21 am
Location: Ain't got no chill!

Re: Police/traffic wardens entering your vehicle

Postby rollingstock » January 2nd, 2012, 4:28 pm

^ soon to come, it will take a transitional period, to account for old computer illiterate police.

Advertisement

Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 33 guests