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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby Chimera » April 27th, 2018, 2:18 pm

not_a_monkey wrote:Just a little idea for anybody going thru this with any squatter/unwanted person on their property; as long as there is a noted/ verifiable complaint (from police station or court clerk of the peace/JP) lodged, that is your strongest evidence if ever the issue arises from a legal standpoint.



a backhoe without a numberplate making a swing through said squatter's house late one night solves most adverse possession problems

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby 88sins » April 27th, 2018, 5:17 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:
not_a_monkey wrote:Just a little idea for anybody going thru this with any squatter/unwanted person on their property; as long as there is a noted/ verifiable complaint (from police station or court clerk of the peace/JP) lodged, that is your strongest evidence if ever the issue arises from a legal standpoint.



a backhoe without a numberplate making a swing through said squatter's house late one night solves most adverse possession problems



so does 5 gallons of kerosene & a box of matches, & it costs less, quieter, faster & sends a stronger message

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby rspann » April 27th, 2018, 6:32 pm

Anybody know if smash squatting,?

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby sMASH » April 27th, 2018, 6:40 pm

possession in 9/10 of the law...

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby Cantmis » April 27th, 2018, 6:45 pm

Smash drink too much methanol!

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby timelapse » April 27th, 2018, 6:46 pm

rspann wrote:Anybody know if smash squatting,?

The man toilet business is his business....

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby sMASH » April 27th, 2018, 6:56 pm

touch ah button nuh...

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby konartis » April 27th, 2018, 8:33 pm

You have no right on that land, if you were there without his knowledge u have no rights for anything, you can’t apply for any land cause it has an owner and I’m sure his taxes etc are paid. You can’t demand he sells for less cause he decides his price. He should come and bulldoze ur stuff and then it’s up to you to put him in court for the good you lost.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby not_a_monkey » April 27th, 2018, 9:09 pm

88sins wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
not_a_monkey wrote:Just a little idea for anybody going thru this with any squatter/unwanted person on their property; as long as there is a noted/ verifiable complaint (from police station or court clerk of the peace/JP) lodged, that is your strongest evidence if ever the issue arises from a legal standpoint.



a backhoe without a numberplate making a swing through said squatter's house late one night solves most adverse possession problems



so does 5 gallons of kerosene & a box of matches, & it costs less, quieter, faster & sends a stronger message
Lol you guys dread

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby PariaMan » April 27th, 2018, 9:20 pm

Adverse possession is a legal rule that allows an occupier (a squatter) of land (who does not have legal title to it) to obtain ownership of it if he can prove exclusive, continuous and uninterrupted possession of the land for at least sixteen (16) years in the case of land owned by an individual or thirty (30) years in the case of land owned by the State.

To establish adverse possession one must fulfill the following requirements:

1. Actual possession
There must be a sufficient amount of physical control over the property by the squatter. He must physically use the land as a property owner would. Examples include, clearing the land, planting crops, planting trees, harvesting the fruit on the land, grazing livestock, cutting timber, fencing the property, constructing a building/s, improving the building/s on the land and other improvements. Enclosure, that is, fencing of the land is strong evidence of adverse possession but it is not necessarily conclusive. Paying taxes does not establish actual possession, but may be admitted as evidence of the claim of adverse possession. The true owner’s payment of taxes does not affect the adverse possessor’s actual possession.

2. Intention to possess
The adverse possessor must provide evidence that he had the “intention to possess.” He must show that he intended to take the land for himself, to use it without the legal owner’s consent, not to share it with the legal owner. This might be inferred if a person takes possession of a house and changes the locks, or if a person moves a fence, or puts a lock on a gate. If the occupier acknowledges the true owner’s title in any way this will negate any intention to possess. For example, if the possessor starts paying the true owner rent to stay on the property.

3. Continuous possession
The adverse possessor must show that the property was held CONTINUOUSLY for the requisite time period, that is, at least 16 years for privately owned land and at least 30 years for state owned land.  Time will continue to run in favour of the squatter unless and until he vacates the premises or acknowledges the true owner’s title. If possession is abandoned by a squatter, and there is a gap between the second squatter, the owner has possession in law during this gap and then land ceases to be in adverse possession – the limitation period (16 or 30 years) starts over from the time of the arrival of the second adverse possessor. Occasional activity on the land with long gaps inactivity will fail the test of continuous possession.

4. Exclusive possession
The adverse possessor must hold the land to the exclusion of the true owner. Anyone who enters the land with the permission of the true owner fails to have exclusive possession.

5. Open and notorious
The adverse possessor’s use of the property must be so visible and apparent that it gives notice to the legal owner that someone may assert a claim. The actions must be of such character that would give notice to a reasonable person. If the legal owner has knowledge, this element is met.  It can also be met by fencing, posted signs, crops, buildings, or animals that a diligent owner would be expected to know about.

6. Adverse
If a person is in possession of the land with the permission of the true owner, his possession cannot be adverse; the possession must be without the permission of the true owner

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby Redman » April 27th, 2018, 9:41 pm

What's the point of this law?

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby bluefete » April 27th, 2018, 9:46 pm

Redman wrote:What's the point of this law?


To allow you to steal land that belongs to someone else.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby ProtonPowder » April 27th, 2018, 10:51 pm

Redman wrote:What's the point of this law?


It is a measure against absentee landowners who own parcels of land that sit unattended for so long, that people can inhabit it for decades unmolested. As pointed out earlier, for an adverse possession claim to be completely valid, it has to be notorious, adverse and uninterrupted for sixteen whole years in TnT for private land.

The reasoning is that if people on your land so long without you objecting, then you dont deserve to own it.

That was me playing devils advocate, if i agree with this is another story.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby MaxPower » April 28th, 2018, 12:30 am

OP speak up na man gawd dammit...

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby boxy » April 28th, 2018, 5:29 am

Redman wrote:What's the point of this law?
for people who have land and expect. neighbors to maintain it for them because it only poses a security and health threat to them.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby 88sins » April 28th, 2018, 10:46 am

Some ppl if you try to occupy their property u eh getting chance to try to get it by adverse possession, some ppl would have op suffering from adverse reactions.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 29th, 2018, 11:55 pm

88sins wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
not_a_monkey wrote:Just a little idea for anybody going thru this with any squatter/unwanted person on their property; as long as there is a noted/ verifiable complaint (from police station or court clerk of the peace/JP) lodged, that is your strongest evidence if ever the issue arises from a legal standpoint.



a backhoe without a numberplate making a swing through said squatter's house late one night solves most adverse possession problems



so does 5 gallons of kerosene & a box of matches, & it costs less, quieter, faster & sends a stronger message


This efficiency at its finest

Kerosene > Backhoe > Excavator > Bulldozer.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby boxy » May 1st, 2018, 7:20 am

A man build a church using the same process. MP intervenes to help keep it from being bulldozed.

https://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/lo ... 221ba.html

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby Dizzy28 » May 1st, 2018, 9:18 am

boxy wrote:A man build a church using the same process. MP intervenes to help keep it from being bulldozed.

https://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/lo ... 221ba.html


With state land its an even more free for all than with private property.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby boxy » May 1st, 2018, 9:34 am

my mind runs back to last year when the government tried to take back land in Valencia and the squatters had a fiery protest on the highway and people defend them.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby RedVEVO » May 1st, 2018, 10:01 am

rspann wrote:Land Settlement can help because they have aerial photographs every couple of years, so they can verify how long a building or cultivation has been going on on any piece of land. So you can't just say you were there sixteen years when you now hitting three.


No why PNM/UNC cannot find all the " ganga fields " with this technology ?

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby 88sins » May 1st, 2018, 11:18 am

boxy wrote:my mind runs back to last year when the government tried to take back land in Valencia and the squatters had a fiery protest on the highway and people defend them.


looks like you didn't stop to think that it might have more in d mortar than just d pestle.

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Re: Anyone ever accquire land by adverse possesion

Postby rspann » May 1st, 2018, 11:32 am

RedVEVO wrote:
rspann wrote:Land Settlement can help because they have aerial photographs every couple of years, so they can verify how long a building or cultivation has been going on on any piece of land. So you can't just say you were there sixteen years when you now hitting three.


No why PNM/UNC cannot find all the " ganga fields " with this technology ?


Because we...ah mean they does plant weed in densely forested areas.

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