Lafast and BYD

[gastly369]

I am a Xiaomi fan, their offering looks interesting too

Saw a few Vids with it but didn't research it yet or get into the details

What's the price usd estimate and standout features that set it apart?

Tonight I'll do some detail reading up

[wing]

I am a Xiaomi fan, their offering looks interesting too

Saw a few Vids with it but didn't research it yet or get into the details

What's the price usd estimate and standout features that set it apart?

Tonight I'll do some detail reading up

https://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?t=773758

[Zee]

They are a bit more pricey than the BYD options, but from the bits I saw, it's a nice cabin and the looks are more or less what the EV segment looks like

[MaxPower]

How you Trinis making out with the 10yr car loans?

[Habit7]

[wing]

Still pretty expensive, but impressive nonetheless.

[fokhan_96]

I'll wait until 5 years too see how they age.

[dogg]

How you Trinis making out with the 10yr car loans?

Not much worse than you Guyanese. Its a struggle for all.

I still contend that that there are NO quality Chinese automobiles of any type.

[Zee]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 024-04-26/

BYD pricing

[pugboy]

who are the many other chinese ev makers ?

[nick639v2]

Let’s do a small comparison, looking only at hybrid cars in the first instance.

Example:
A non hybrid gasoline car takes $300 to fill, and gets 350km to the tank.

A Japanese Hybrid car such as the Note, Aqua, Fielder, Vezel, etc takes $300 to fill and gets 700-800km to the tank.

The non hybrid car drives 50,000km using 143 tanks at a cost of $42,900 in fuel.

The Japanese hybrid car drives 50,000km using 72 tanks of fuel at a cost of $21,600 in fuel.

Fast forward 3-4 years to 150,000km of driving, and maybe you have not properly maintained the hybrid systems, which are easy enough to look after, but you now need a hybrid battery.

You will have saved $63,000 in fuel by this point, but now, maybe, you have to spend $15,000-20,000 for a new hybrid battery.

Over the 3-4 years, you have also reduced your emissions by half. Let’s forget global warning for a moment. You’ve put a lot less pollution into the atmosphere too.

All that’s really missing now, in Trinidad, is a proper way to get the used batteries into a recycling program.

Now let’s look at Fully Electric.

Fully electric is not for everyone. Some will ask what fuel is used to supply the electricity that charges these cars.

It’s no secret that a lot of standby power is available on the power grids, and effectively lost, when not “consumed”.

In Trinidad, the cost of electricity to charge your fully electric car is many many times cheaper than the cost of the fuel you would buy to fill your fuel tank.

So, the short story is not only the argument of what is or is not causing global warming.

The pollution caused by internal combustion engines has serious health ramifications for the human race.

So tell me again, especially for Trinidad and Tobago, why not embrace hybrids until hydrogen or other technologies mature?

Japan uses Hybrid because they can’t effectively implement the charging stations for fully electric. 2nd and 3rd generation hybrids are more reliable than ever.

Cutting emissions in half is not a bad thing.

I dunno…he comparing older vehicles and not the newer gasoline engines. I get a ritual 6.5L/100km at least with my forester non eco mode vs around the 6L/100km in the new xtrail hybrid… (mostly highway driving)

Fuel consumption is pretty much directly related to emissions so there’s that.

Regular maintenance I can do myself vs having to worry about a second hybrid system and complications.

I’m still not sold on hybrids, fully electric or full gasoline/diesel for me

[greggle71]

Should change the topic to the EV in TT thread, some good discussion points

[pugboy]

a decent midrange non luxury ev around $220k would sell like hot bread

[wing]

a decent midrange non luxury ev around $220k would sell like hot bread

I think the BYD Atto might be about 300k

[pugboy]

the mg is $300

a decent midrange non luxury ev around $220k would sell like hot bread

I think the BYD Atto might be about 300k

[Zee]

who are the many other chinese ev makers ?

Chinese exhibitors include top NEV brands BYD, Geely and Changan; battery EV specialists GAC Aion, Li Auto, Nio and Xpeng; and Xiaomi, a cell phone maker and software company that has started selling connected cars.

[Zee]

a decent midrange non luxury ev around $220k would sell like hot bread

Nissan Leaf isn't bad. And costs exactly that.

[pugboy]

well I meant a midrange size too,
not a matchbox lol

a decent midrange non luxury ev around $220k would sell like hot bread

Nissan Leaf isn't bad. And costs exactly that.

[pugboy]

as I said before, building an electric car aint rocket science
its literally 2 motors hooked up to axle and an electronic speed controller, just like an electric wheelchair
the engine complexity no longer exists.

it prob costs more to make the internal electronic frills and touchscreen to make them differentiate from other brands
hopefully in a few years the market will settle down like flat screen tvs

who are the many other chinese ev makers ?

Chinese exhibitors include top NEV brands BYD, Geely and Changan; battery EV specialists GAC Aion, Li Auto, Nio and Xpeng; and Xiaomi, a cell phone maker and software company that has started selling connected cars.

[wing]

as I said before, building an electric car aint rocket science
its literally 2 motors hooked up to axle and an electronic speed controller, just like an electric wheelchair
the engine complexity no longer exists.

it prob costs more to make the internal electronic frills and touchscreen to make them differentiate from other brands
hopefully in a few years the market will settle down like flat screen tvs

who are the many other chinese ev makers ?

Chinese exhibitors include top NEV brands BYD, Geely and Changan; battery EV specialists GAC Aion, Li Auto, Nio and Xpeng; and Xiaomi, a cell phone maker and software company that has started selling connected cars.

Then why hasn't any other companies besides Tesla have successfully done so.

[PariaMan]

Price of the battery is the big expense right now


People want maybe 400 miles range, but the battery for that range with existing technology is real high

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

as I said before, building an electric car aint rocket science
its literally 2 motors hooked up to axle and an electronic speed controller, just like an electric wheelchair
the engine complexity no longer exists.

it prob costs more to make the internal electronic frills and touchscreen to make them differentiate from other brands
hopefully in a few years the market will settle down like flat screen tvs

who are the many other chinese ev makers ?

Chinese exhibitors include top NEV brands BYD, Geely and Changan; battery EV specialists GAC Aion, Li Auto, Nio and Xpeng; and Xiaomi, a cell phone maker and software company that has started selling connected cars.

Then why hasn't any other companies besides Tesla have successfully done so.

Don't know if this answers your question

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[Habit7]

well I meant a midrange size too,
not a matchbox lol

a decent midrange non luxury ev around $220k would sell like hot bread

Nissan Leaf isn't bad. And costs exactly that.

The first gen Leaf was a matchbox like a March
But the second gen Leaf is considered mid-size, it is larger than a Tiida.

[PariaMan]

Kinda ugly and I think the range is around 240 km which I find a little on the low side

[Dizzy28]

Kinda ugly and I think the range is around 240 km which I find a little on the low side

Bro you living in a country with an average length of 80kms and average width of 59kms.
Even 240Kms is a reasonable range for someone who isn't in an unuusually high mileage job. Everyone will have access to charging on a daily basis.

[PariaMan]

Maybe once a week i go country, which is a total run back and forth about 200km which means when I come home if I have to go out things might be a little tight . Also, some time I leave on Friday evening, which means another 20 km going to work and back.

So basically, on my return, I will have done about 220 km, so I will have to charge before I do anything

I think 300 is a range I will be comfortable with.

[matix]

Maybe once a week i go country, which is a total run back and forth about 200km which means when I come home if I have to go out things might be a little tight . Also, some time I leave on Friday evening, which means another 20 km going to work and back.

So basically, on my return, I will have done about 220 km, so I will have to charge before I do anything

I think 300 is a range I will be comfortable with.

Add traffic to that

[Habit7]

EVs are more efficient in traffic. Stop and go helps recharge the charge the battery by regenerative braking.

Plus there is a 62kwh Leaf that has a 364km range.

[Dizzy28]

Maybe once a week i go country, which is a total run back and forth about 200km which means when I come home if I have to go out things might be a little tight . Also, some time I leave on Friday evening, which means another 20 km going to work and back.

So basically, on my return, I will have done about 220 km, so I will have to charge before I do anything

I think 300 is a range I will be comfortable with.

Add traffic to that

Isn't a key selling point of electric is that traffic affects the stated range negligibly?

[VexXx Dogg]

Maybe once a week i go country, which is a total run back and forth about 200km which means when I come home if I have to go out things might be a little tight . Also, some time I leave on Friday evening, which means another 20 km going to work and back.

So basically, on my return, I will have done about 220 km, so I will have to charge before I do anything

I think 300 is a range I will be comfortable with.

Add traffic to that

Isn't a key selling point of electric is that traffic affects the stated range negligibly?

AC use is a massive consumer.