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The illegal killing of Osama Bin Laden
Osama Bin Laden’s death proved what he said in life: that the United States couldn’t kill or arrest him within its own laws
Whatever one might think of Osama Bin Laden (whether a terrorist for his alleged role in killing an estimated 5000 Westerners, or a freedom fighter against US imperialism that has killed an estimated two million Afghanis and Iraqis), his targeted killing was a violation of international law.
International law prohibits targeted killed in several ways.
First, a targeted killing, as this one was, is carried out often by the use of force against the territorial integrity and political independence of a foreign state. In this case, the president of Pakistan has made it clear that his country did not authorise the US action. Instead, the US sent about two-dozen troops in helicopters into Pakistani airspace and attacked a house in a civilian neighbourhood without the permission of the Pakistani government. As such, Pakistani national security, one of the most crucial attributes of both political independence and territorial integrity, was violated.
Second, targeted killings are summary and extrajudicial executions that violate the right to life. It is hard to believe that the US had no other option but to kill Osama Bin Laden. According to US reports, he was killed by two gunshots to the head at close range fired from US soldiers’ guns. Moreover, after he was killed, the United States claims they took his body. These facts indicate that the well-armed and protected US troops operating illegally on foreign soil could have made an attempt to capture Osama Bin Laden, but instead merely executed him.
When a life is taken in the course of an action that is from the onset illegal, there is a prima facie violation of the human right to life. Even American law makes killing carried out during the commission of another crime a more serious offence. Moreover, if this were not the case, then states could merely elevate a situation in which they were acting to the level of an armed conflict, so as to label their targets combatants and thus enemies who may be lawfully killed. Such action is discredited, even by the US itself who has admonished leaders in the Middle East for the use of excessive force against their people even when those leaders have claimed that they have a war on their hands.
The US president and other US spokespersons have claimed that the troops acted to ensure there was no loss of life on their side of the operation. They seem to have no qualms, however, about killing an apparently innocent woman. They claim she was being used as a human shield, which even if true does not justify her killing. It is in fact a claim frequently made by Israeli soldiers to justify their murder of unarmed women in Palestine on a regular basis.
Similarly, attempts to justify targeted killings as acts of self-defence, or in the interest of national security, are fanciful illusions usually put forward by unapologetic and energetic proponents of US exceptionalism to international law. Leading human rights groups like Amnesty International and the UN Human Rights Council, and the UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary and arbitrary executions, have roundly condemned targeted killing as a violation of the human right to life. There is no credible human rights lawyer that supports such killings.
In any event, any US claims of justification in a situation involving the taking of life requires that the US prove that it acted out of necessity or some other legal justification. Not only has the US failed to provide such proof, it has destroyed the best evidence —the body of the very victim. It did so claiming that it had to provide Osama Bin Laden a traditional Muslim burial. A burial at sea after a person is killed on land and without their family and friends present is the farthest thing one can imagine from Islamic tradition. Instead, anecdotal evidence has emerged about how Osama Bin Laden’s body was desecrated by over enthusiastic American soldiers and how Muslim traditions of respect for women were flaunted by male American soldiers who molested Muslim women in the heat of the operation. The US actions concerning Osama Bin Laden’s body look merely like the work of criminals trying to dispose of the evidence of their crime.
Ultimately, the US action, however satisfying to the American thrust for blood retribution for the terrible acts against its people in September 2001, may have set back efforts to bring peace and security to the world by ensuring human rights. It may be true that Osama Bin Laden was taunting America using the restraints of the rule of law. He was saying: “If you think you can kill or capture me within your laws, try to do so.” In the end, he and we showed it wasn’t possible. Instead, the US had to act in violation of the sovereignty of another state and had to carry out an extrajudicial and summary execution.
For most people in the world, little will have changed. The ongoing wanton disregard for international law that has characterised US foreign policy for some time will remain the greatest threat to their security. For the majority of the three billion people living in poverty around the world, the US has shown once again that the mainly Western-written rules of international law mean nothing when they are intended to protect the less powerful.
While powerful Western leaders have slaughtered millions of Iraqis and Afghanis with impunity; while Israel continues to carry out genocide against the Palestinians in full view of the world; while NATO continues to bomb the people of Libya irrespective of the UN Charter, the West is now celebrating the death of someone who, however misled and wrong-minded, was a person who was willing to fight for the poorest and the most vulnerable people in the world to the very end of his life. That the US had to kill him in violation of international law makes all the more believable Osama Bin Laden’s claims of Western hypocrisy and the need for a better alternative.
Rfari wrote:RASC wrote:CAN YOU CONSPIRACY THEORISTS NOW OFFICIALLY STFU ABOUT OSAMA *NOT* BEING DEAD.
Thank You!
My main concern is not if usama is dead or alive but if indeed he was responsible by way of association for the 9/11 attack.
Rfari wrote:RASC wrote:CAN YOU CONSPIRACY THEORISTS NOW OFFICIALLY STFU ABOUT OSAMA *NOT* BEING DEAD.
Thank You!
My main concern is not if usama is dead or alive but if indeed he was responsible by way of association for the 9/11 attack.
RASC wrote:Conspiracy theorists...was the new one now...
Now that has been debunked. What next?
We waiting
RASC wrote:Conspiracy theorists...was the new one now...
Now that has been debunked. What next?
We waiting
rfari wrote:so what about 9/11 and the conspiracies behind that? can anyone shed some light on them?
pioneer wrote:wow...real men get deny ah visay in here
RASC wrote:rfari wrote:so what about 9/11 and the conspiracies behind that? can anyone shed some light on them?
Just shut up nah man.
National Geographic ran an entire special vs. the Truthers and they were LITERALLY stumped...they sat there looking like fools. They carried out full scale demolitions of buildings and multiple scenarios over and over...it showed how IMPOSSIBLE it would've been.
Thousands upon thousands of ppl would have had to be paid off, sworn to secrecy and then REPEATEDLY paid to this day to keep quiet. You would've had to have all local and regional agencies working in unison to coordinate this event.
Good grief man--->
PART 1
PART 2
Truthers are the worst type of Conspiracy Theorists...THE WORST!
pioneer wrote:wow...real men get deny ah visay in here
zoom rader wrote:Scoobert Bauce wrote:zoom rader wrote:There are too many US brain rot folks on this thread. Without BIN the US would have been in very worst condition. As for Obama his rating was sliping and BIN saved him.
Jah blessing to Bin and down with the US and their Sheep
"If you would quit hatin' and hear what I gotta say to you" --- Curren$y (JETS nigguh)
lmao like you get deport for jaywalking or something? did BasedGod (an american) fuuck your biitch?
Is shyt like dis dat does irk me about conspiracy theorists... yall gots NO PROOF!!! NONE (that's believable, anyway)
LMAO @ US being better with bin than without him. Give me one reason... I could give you 14 trillion reasons why you talkin live from ur azzhole with dat one.
Obama's rating is at the average level it would be for a president after 2 1/2 years around 46% and he was rated in every poll, (even Rassmussen, which is known to favor the GOP) to win another four years in office, no matter who they put cuz The GOP dont have anybody that could contest him. (they preppin Marco Rubio for 2016 though) Lyin about something THIS BIG would do WAAAAY more harm than good, and is just pointless... Lemme guess, you believe in the Illuminati too ent? You a Birther? a Truther?
nigguh do rational thinking ppl a favor and
I have no rebuttal to your arguement, So I will beat around the bush and make fun of the grammatical structure of your post.
brainchild wrote:Alyuh remember this pic? Hillary in the situation room watching them take down Bin Laden...well last nite on FoxNews she said the photographer caught her stifling a cough.
After that shitty excuse i sure they hiding sumting now!
Scoobert Bauce wrote:zoom rader wrote:Scoobert Bauce wrote:zoom rader wrote:There are too many US brain rot folks on this thread. Without BIN the US would have been in very worst condition. As for Obama his rating was sliping and BIN saved him.
Jah blessing to Bin and down with the US and their Sheep
"If you would quit hatin' and hear what I gotta say to you" --- Curren$y (JETS nigguh)
lmao like you get deport for jaywalking or something? did BasedGod (an american) fuuck your biitch?
Is shyt like dis dat does irk me about conspiracy theorists... yall gots NO PROOF!!! NONE (that's believable, anyway)
LMAO @ US being better with bin than without him. Give me one reason... I could give you 14 trillion reasons why you talkin live from ur azzhole with dat one.
Obama's rating is at the average level it would be for a president after 2 1/2 years around 46% and he was rated in every poll, (even Rassmussen, which is known to favor the GOP) to win another four years in office, no matter who they put cuz The GOP dont have anybody that could contest him. (they preppin Marco Rubio for 2016 though) Lyin about something THIS BIG would do WAAAAY more harm than good, and is just pointless... Lemme guess, you believe in the Illuminati too ent? You a Birther? a Truther?
nigguh do rational thinking ppl a favor and
I have no rebuttal to your arguement, So I will beat around the bush and make fun of the grammatical structure of your post.
Yeah... I thought so and LMAO @ goin post primary dat real fail
zoom rader wrote:Scoobert Bauce wrote:zoom rader wrote:Scoobert Bauce wrote:zoom rader wrote:There are too many US brain rot folks on this thread. Without BIN the US would have been in very worst condition. As for Obama his rating was sliping and BIN saved him.
Jah blessing to Bin and down with the US and their Sheep
"If you would quit hatin' and hear what I gotta say to you" --- Curren$y (JETS nigguh)
lmao like you get deport for jaywalking or something? did BasedGod (an american) fuuck your biitch?
Is shyt like dis dat does irk me about conspiracy theorists... yall gots NO PROOF!!! NONE (that's believable, anyway)
LMAO @ US being better with bin than without him. Give me one reason... I could give you 14 trillion reasons why you talkin live from ur azzhole with dat one.
Obama's rating is at the average level it would be for a president after 2 1/2 years around 46% and he was rated in every poll, (even Rassmussen, which is known to favor the GOP) to win another four years in office, no matter who they put cuz The GOP dont have anybody that could contest him. (they preppin Marco Rubio for 2016 though) Lyin about something THIS BIG would do WAAAAY more harm than good, and is just pointless... Lemme guess, you believe in the Illuminati too ent? You a Birther? a Truther?
nigguh do rational thinking ppl a favor and
I have no rebuttal to your arguement, So I will beat around the bush and make fun of the grammatical structure of your post.
Yeah... I thought so and LMAO @ goin post primary dat real fail
Post Primary Fail? really?
You should take a look at UWI and UTT, most cant even spell/write.
SmokeyGTi wrote:dunno if it's a repost but...
zoom rader wrote:SmokeyGTi wrote:dunno if it's a repost but...
Sum thing wrong with Pics, which is real?
Al-Qaida has confirmed the death of its leader, Osama bin Laden, and vowed vengeance, pledging in a statement posted on militant websites that his blood "will not be wasted".
In what is apparently the first official reaction from the militant Islamist group since Bin Laden was gunned down by US special forces troops who raided his hideout in the Pakistani town of Abbottabad, the group called on the people of Pakistan, "where Sheik Osama was killed", to rise up against their leaders.
The group would soon release an audio message from Bin Laden recorded a week before his death, said the statement, dated 3 May and signed by "the general leadership of al-Qaida". There was no independent confirmation that the message was authentic but it was posted on websites through which al-Qaida habitually issues statements.
It continued: "We stress that the blood of the holy warrior sheikh, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is precious to us and to all Muslims and will not go in vain.
"We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries. Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness, their blood will be mingled with their tears."
The statement came as US intelligence officials said Bin Laden had remained in close touch with the rest of the al-Qaida network from his safe house and had continued to plot potential terrorist attacks, including one against the US railway system.
The information reportedly comes from the initial analysis of files seized after he was killed. The US Navy Seals who shot Bin Laden in the early hours of Monday took away a mass of digital information on computers, hard drives and storage discs, as well as paper documents. An initial trawl through the files indicated Bin Laden was not a mere figurehead for the militant group but remained closely involved in nuts-and-bolts planning, according to various US reports.
As late as February last year, he seemingly took part in drawing up a previously unknown plot to attack a US commuter rail network, possibly on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks or another landmark date such as Christmas or new year, intelligence officials told US newspapers.
While the plot, apparently involving an attempt to derail a train by tampering with tracks, appeared to be only speculative, the seized documents seem to show Bin Laden was in regular contact with al-Qaida operatives from his house in Abbottabad. Before the raid, some analysts speculated that he had become an increasingly marginalised figure during his long presumed exile in remote tribal regions along the Afghan border.
Details have also emerged about the painstaking surveillance operation that preceded the raid on Bin Laden's hideout, in which a CIA team spied on the house for months from a property they rented nearby. The officers scanned the compound using telephoto lenses and infrared imaging equipment, and attempted to listen in on conversations inside, anonymous US officials told the New York Times.
The surveillance team regularly spotted a tall man walking through the compound's courtyard, although they never confirmed whether this was Bin Laden.
Such was the cost of the operation that the CIA requested tens of millions of dollars in extra funding from Congress in December last year, officials told the Washington Post.
Staff at an FBI lab at the marine corps base in Quantico, Virginia, have been poring over the trove of data as quickly as possible in case it describes any imminent attacks, but as yet there have been no specific alerts.
"He [Bin Laden] wasn't just a figurehead," one unnamed US official told the New York Times. "He continued to plot and plan, to come up with ideas about targets and to communicate those ideas to other senior al-Qaida leaders."
The department of homeland security has ordered additional security at airports and other transport hubs, and issued a precautionary note about the railway plot. "As of February 2010, al-Qaida was allegedly contemplating conducting an operation against trains at an unspecified location in the United States on the 10th anniversary of 11 September 2001," it said.
"As one option, al-Qaida was looking into trying to tip a train by tampering with the rails so that the train would fall off the track at either a valley or a bridge."
A department spokesman told the Washington Post that the plot appeared speculative: "We have no information of any imminent terrorist threat to the US rail sector."
The documents may prove more fruitful in leading the US to other senior al-Qaida figures, including Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaida's deputy leader. "We have lots of information on him," Mike Rogers, the Republican congressman who chairs the House intelligence committee, told the Washington Post. "I can't say it's imminent, but I do believe we're hot on the trail."
A day after laying a wreath to the victims of 11 September during a largely subdued visit to New York, Barack Obama is to travel to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, to meet the Seals who raided Bin Laden's compound.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:the fact that Al Qaeda issued a statement that Osama Bin Laden was killed by the US in Abbottabad is enough for me I guess.
should quell the conspiracy theorists.. unless they now claiming that Al Qaeda and the US were in cahoots all along!!!
RASC wrote:Zoom Rader doh deal up in facebook. Too Americanized.
reminds me of the fact that, Osama hated America but was buying coca cola AND pepsi by the bulk. shogun wrote:RASC wrote:Zoom Rader doh deal up in facebook. Too Americanized.
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