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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » March 10th, 2022, 11:41 am

KM_2NR wrote:Russia wouldn't have pulled this if Donald was still in office. The world doesn't respect murica anymore.
Russia didn't invade any US territory. Ukraine was neutral.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » March 10th, 2022, 11:49 am

KM_2NR wrote:Russia wouldn't have pulled this if Donald was still in office. The world doesn't respect murica anymore.
Is not a respect thing.
Donald policy was to stay in yuh lane.
Doh bother we and we won't bother you.
Once he gone, the warhawks free to operate again.Guns afi sell, oil affi take.This whole thing reeks of CIA involvement

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby The_Honourable » March 10th, 2022, 12:00 pm

Nobody here (i hope) is justifying and supporting Russia's invasion into Ukraine. What we are saying is that we understand why Russia did it. Putin warned NATO about expansion over a decade ago but they didn't take him seriously and thought he was bluffing. He's an old school KGB, his worldview different.

Ukraine realizes now that they are on their own because Putin clearly could not care less about sanctions and they have virtually no military help from NATO. Whatever actions US takes, Putin could always retaliate against the EU by locking off oil and gas.

Zelensky boil down a bit and is in talks with Russia. He might even abandon the idea of joining NATO not just due to Russian demands but they pretty much were spectators.

Btw... Russia didn't do anything while Trump was in office not because of Trump's negotiation skills, Putin knew Trump is that f**ked up to nuke Moscow, tweet and have a rally about it.
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Penguin » March 10th, 2022, 12:00 pm

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » March 10th, 2022, 12:03 pm

timelapse wrote:
KM_2NR wrote:Russia wouldn't have pulled this if Donald was still in office. The world doesn't respect murica anymore.
Is not a respect thing.
Donald policy was to stay in yuh lane.
Doh bother we and we won't bother you.
Once he gone, the warhawks free to operate again.Guns afi sell, oil affi take.This whole thing reeks of CIA involvement
The US CIA started up some Russian tanks? No one attacked Russia. No one outside of Russia amassed troops on the border with Russia.

A more accurate portrayal may be that NATO's lack of aggression goaded Russia into attacking a neutral country on their border. The result? A couple of years of insurrection, Russian political upheaval, worldwide galvanization, and a marketable excuse to reduce reliance on fossil fuels.
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby The_Honourable » March 10th, 2022, 12:09 pm

The Ukraine conflict has been 'westsplained' enough. On Gravitas Plus, Palki Sharma tells you how Western arrogance & NATO's expansionism are also to blame, how their actions precipitated the crisis in Ukraine.


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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » March 10th, 2022, 12:29 pm

adnj wrote:
timelapse wrote:
KM_2NR wrote:Russia wouldn't have pulled this if Donald was still in office. The world doesn't respect murica anymore.
Is not a respect thing.
Donald policy was to stay in yuh lane.
Doh bother we and we won't bother you.
Once he gone, the warhawks free to operate again.Guns afi sell, oil affi take.This whole thing reeks of CIA involvement
The US CIA started up some Russian tanks? No one attacked Russia. No one amassed troopson the border with Russia.

A more accurate portrayal may be the NATO's lack of aggression goaded Russian into attacking a neutral country on their border. The result? A couple of years of insurrection, Russian political upheaval, worldwide galvanization, and an marketable excuse to reduce reliance on fossil fuels.
CIA has been known to stir up civil unrest especially where oil is concerned

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby teems1 » March 10th, 2022, 12:35 pm

The_Honourable wrote:The Ukraine conflict has been 'westsplained' enough. On Gravitas Plus, Palki Sharma tells you how Western arrogance & NATO's expansionism are also to blame, how their actions precipitated the crisis in Ukraine.



Eastern European countries want to join NATO once they can meet the financial requirements of 2% GDP.

It's not NATO forcing them to join.

These countries know about the hell it was as part of the USSR and living behind the iron curtain.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby MaxPower » March 10th, 2022, 2:08 pm

Penguin wrote:Nice to see we are using a few Ukrainian racists to justify an invasion of a soverign democracy.

It's always amusing to see all the woke trinis supporting Russia because America = bad.


A few Ukrainian racists?

No one is saying their rampant racism justifies the invasion. It just more reason to say that their country is not worth a world war.

People seeing the “patriotism” of the Ukrainians as they “stand up” and “fight” and that alone is oh so touching just like in the movies but yet Trinis in particular know not 1F about them.

For Ukrainians in this day and age and in their type of situation and STILL deny and scorn the black man says alot about their people.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » March 10th, 2022, 2:28 pm

Guyanese boy : Daddy, where is Ukraine?

Dad: Where de skunt you expect me to get a crane from?

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby boxy » March 10th, 2022, 8:00 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Nobody here (i hope) is justifying and supporting Russia's invasion into Ukraine. What we are saying is that we understand why Russia did it. Putin warned NATO about expansion over a decade ago but they didn't take him seriously and thought he was bluffing. He's an old school KGB, his worldview different.

Ukraine realizes now that they are on their own because Putin clearly could not care less about sanctions and they have virtually no military help from NATO. Whatever actions US takes, Putin could always retaliate against the EU by locking off oil and gas.

Zelensky boil down a bit and is in talks with Russia. He might even abandon the idea of joining NATO not just due to Russian demands but they pretty much were spectators.

Btw... Russia didn't do anything while Trump was in office not because of Trump's negotiation skills, Putin knew Trump is that f**ked up to nuke Moscow, tweet and have a rally about it.


The nuclear football isn't opened because a president impulsively decides to bomb an aggressors capital because it is invading another country. I seriously doubt you even believe that.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby The_Honourable » March 10th, 2022, 8:09 pm

boxy wrote:
The nuclear football isn't opened because a president impulsively decides to bomb an aggressors capital because it is invading another country. I seriously doubt you even believe that.


Yuh forget is Trump we was dealing with... we'll never know now.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby The_Honourable » March 10th, 2022, 8:11 pm

China threatens retaliation if U.S. sanctions Chinese firms for working with Russia


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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » March 10th, 2022, 8:26 pm

Watch US do it just for a reason to war
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby shogun » March 11th, 2022, 12:19 am

lol

Anyone notice that the same Putin apologist/right-wing media consuming Tuners that trying to manipulate the narrative by now pretending they give a ch!t about racism against black people in Ukraine, is literally the same crowd that is FIRST to preach here about "moving on" and "forgetting the past" to black people in the US, when they protest/organize against racism? Disingenuous mental gymnastics like a mofo up in here.

In other news...


Irony vortex engaged.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » March 11th, 2022, 5:56 pm

Bruh............. how a powerful army go lose 3 Generals in two weeks???
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » March 11th, 2022, 6:25 pm

Also in other news, India 'accidentally' launch a missile into Pakistan.The timing very questionable

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Redress10 » March 11th, 2022, 11:03 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Bruh............. how a powerful army go lose 3 Generals in two weeks??? IMG_20220311_175439.jpg



Russia military strength is a myth. Don't be fooled

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dohplaydat » March 12th, 2022, 7:15 am

Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Bruh............. how a powerful army go lose 3 Generals in two weeks??? IMG_20220311_175439.jpg



Russia military strength is a myth. Don't be fooled


The thing is, they would be a half decent military if they on a proper war footing. This war exposed so much of the current corruption and BS internally in their military.

Based on the leaked FSB files, no one seriouslu thought Putin was going to order the invasion. They believed it to be posturing for recognition of Crimea and assurances from NATO.

So it does seem the military was unprepared for an actual invasion, hence the extremely shitty logistics.

However, don't be fooled by Ukrainian and Western media narratives, Ukraine is holding out very well, but Russia is making progress and will eventually wear them down.

From there, it's still a lose lose situation for Russia because sanctions ain't being lifted. And occupation will be hard AF.

Some analysts has said this could inadvertently put Putin on a full far footing and he could try to invade more countries, even Finland, unless sanctions are lifted and annexed Ukrainian territory recognized.

That's the only way Putin can win, which is crazy AF.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » March 12th, 2022, 8:58 am

Heil P...
Wait , wrong team.Nevermind

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » March 12th, 2022, 9:36 am

Finland ???

I think the Russians learned not to fcuk with the Finns based on the aftermath of the Winter War.
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Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Bruh............. how a powerful army go lose 3 Generals in two weeks??? IMG_20220311_175439.jpg



Russia military strength is a myth. Don't be fooled


The thing is, they would be a half decent military if they on a proper war footing. This war exposed so much of the current corruption and BS internally in their military.

Based on the leaked FSB files, no one seriouslu thought Putin was going to order the invasion. They believed it to be posturing for recognition of Crimea and assurances from NATO.

So it does seem the military was unprepared for an actual invasion, hence the extremely shitty logistics.

However, don't be fooled by Ukrainian and Western media narratives, Ukraine is holding out very well, but Russia is making progress and will eventually wear them down.

From there, it's still a lose lose situation for Russia because sanctions ain't being lifted. And occupation will be hard AF.

Some analysts has said this could inadvertently put Putin on a full far footing and he could try to invade more countries, even Finland, unless sanctions are lifted and annexed Ukrainian territory recognized.

That's the only way Putin can win, which is crazy AF.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » March 12th, 2022, 9:50 am

Them there be Viking!

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby SuperiorMan » March 12th, 2022, 11:20 am

USA will wipe the floor the russian army.

If only master Trump could return to lead this great nation against the asiatic menace.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby hover11 » March 12th, 2022, 11:35 am

Pretty much
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby MaxPower » March 12th, 2022, 11:51 am

SuperiorMan wrote:USA will wipe the floor the russian army.

If only master Trump could return to lead this great nation against the asiatic menace.


All hail the commander!

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby hover11 » March 12th, 2022, 11:55 am

MaxPower wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:USA will wipe the floor the russian army.

If only master Trump could return to lead this great nation against the asiatic menace.


All hail the commander!
If trump was still around the world would have been a much better place

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Ripe Chenette » March 12th, 2022, 11:59 am

hover11 wrote:Pretty much
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby redmanjp » March 12th, 2022, 2:07 pm

MaxPower wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:USA will wipe the floor the russian army.

If only master Trump could return to lead this great nation against the asiatic menace.


All hail the commander!


The QAnon ppl actually believe he is still secretly the president and in charge of the Army :roll:

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby shogun » March 12th, 2022, 5:29 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Bruh............. how a powerful army go lose 3 Generals in two weeks??? IMG_20220311_175439.jpg


Was skeptical when I heard this. But if this is true, Putin really having a rough go.


High ranking officers on Vader's flagship comes to mind.

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