Ukraine Russia War

[redmanjp]

[adnj]

See how US weapons are helping Ukraine's army
YouTube · CNN
7 hours ago

[Dizzy28]

^^ That Russian ambassador could in the words of Snake Island soldiers "go fcuk yourself!!!!"

Kharkiv and Mariupol stand testament to Russian lies about not targeting civilians.

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Losing? Putin's Army Has Higher Death Toll In Ukraine Than U.S. Across 20 Years In Middle East
YouTube · MSNBC
1 hour ago

[hover11]

Russia's military is weak if Ukraine giving them all this pressure how can they hope to go against the US if push come to shove

[Bad Dog]

Russia's military is weak if Ukraine giving them all this pressure how can they hope to go against the US if push come to shove

Media double standard...I mean narrative. Russia is loosing/Ukraine is winning. Russian the Bad/Ukraine the good. While Russia is inflicting so much damage to Ukraine infrastructure and Ukrainians are valiantly defending their country with arms and ammunition supplied by the the West.

[MaxPower]

Friends,

Do not underestimate the Russians.

If Ukraine was “winning”, then Zelensky won’t be constantly begging for help.

Do not underestimate the Russians.

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Russia's weekly troop losses in Ukraine have already overtaken Soviet casualties in Afghanistan

... Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, who had already described Afghanistan as a ‘bleeding wound’, found it compelling to make a humiliating military exit by May 1989. In the end, the Soviets claimed that their total war casualties were about 15,000 troops killed and 35,000 injured.

As for Ukraine, Russia could have a much lower rate of casualties compared to the Soviet weekly losses.

The country’s landscape is relatively flat with few and relatively soft natural barriers that include mainly the Dnieper, Dniester, Southern Buh and Siverskyi Donets rivers, and the Carpathian Mountains.

Moscow has officially put the number of its soldiers killed and injured during the first week of fighting at about 500 and 1,600, respectively.

These figures exceed the Soviet loss of about 28 troops on average during a comparable period in Afghanistan.

If Russia continues to suffer troop casualties at this rate, and if the war drags on for weeks and months, Russia’s Ukraine performance will fall substantially short of the Soviet operations in Afghanistan.

This reality may eventuate, provided the Ukrainian resistance maintains its strength and NATO countries ensure a continuous supply of intelligence and weapons, including most importantly Stinger missiles.

Even if Russian forces take Kyiv and some of the other major cities, the Ukrainians will be well positioned to engage in an effective insurgency, especially from the west of the Dnieper, in the same way as the mujahideen did. In Afghanistan, the US and its allies managed to arm and finance several of the mujahideen groups through Pakistan, with which Afghanistan shares a 2,640-kilometre-long border that the Soviets could not control.

https://www.uwa.edu.au/news/Article/202 ... fghanistan

[Dohplaydat]

Russia's military is weak if Ukraine giving them all this pressure how can they hope to go against the US if push come to shove

Media double standard...I mean narrative. Russia is loosing/Ukraine is winning. Russian the Bad/Ukraine the good. While Russia is inflicting so much damage to Ukraine infrastructure and Ukrainians are valiantly defending their country with arms and ammunition supplied by the the West.

It's the fog of war, but yes there's definitely a western narrative that Ukraine is winning.

In reality, Ukraine is losing, but losing much slower than Russia would have wanted.

Russia is making slow territorial gains and they're encroaching on Kyiv slowly.

But let's be honest, Russia f*cked up this invasion badly by not using their so called air superiority and sending in untrained cannon fodder troops first. Most likely it's a combination of army corruption, false intelligence (or FSB officials simply telling Putin what he wanted to hear without thinking he really wanted to invade), lack of planning and outdated or malfunctioning military equipment.

They also didn't expect such a tough fight, nor did they expect the Wests' sanctions to be this tough in response.

They now need to dig their way out of this big hole.

One thing they can employ if things don't go well in this invasion, is using tactical nukes.

By mid or end of April this war would become really impractical for Russia to continue. If they don't have Kyiv by then expect nukes in Ukraine.

If they do get Kyiv, then I expect the negotiations might go better for them and they'll probably still to gain total control of East Ukraine and their black sea coastline (where all the oil and gas reserves are). They'll probably return Kyiv and leave Zalenskyy in power in exchange for lesser sanctions and Ukraine never joining NATO.

That's how Russia wants this to end.

The west wants to keep Russia stalling even pushing them back while making sure Russia doesn't use it's nukes. Eventually they might come to a stalemate and Ukraine and increase their negotiating power.

That's how Ukraine and the west want this to end.

[MaxPower]

How much is the Ukraine Govt stealing from all this “aid” they are receiving?

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The west wants this to end with the west having full control of the oil, guns and nukes.Thats all.They want to be the biggest tree in the forest while stifling out all the smaller trees
One world government that US keeps trying to push with them in control.

[Bad Dog]

When there are 2 sides to the story. In Western Media/MSM there many sides to Bad Russia/Bad Putin but the truth maybe is on the other side. /quote]

What's the other side exactly?

This war is primarily on Russian wanting to re-establish their Soviet imperial state. NATO encroachment was an excuse, it's Putin's lifelong dream to unite the Soviet empire and become relevant again.

This is a fight for the survival of Russia in the 21st century.

It's a fight Putin might lose though, but once Russia controls Ukraine, they control Europe's gas and will be relevant... somewhat, I don't think the west will ever trust Russia again and most sanctions will remain.

Russia will have to turn toward China, India and Pakistan for survival.

This isn't good for world stability as it forces East Vs West alliances.

Now back to Ukraine, is that right to invade? Is it right to basically destroy a democratic nation and take away their sovereignity?

There's basically no way you can justify that eh? Not to mention killing innocent civilians and taking away their country.

The invasion of a sovereign nation and killing/injuring of civilian is totally unacceptable by any standard.
The other side to this story is the propaganda from the Western leaders who committed worst war crimes than Putin and invaded more countries than Russia in the name of spreading democracy while cuddling dictators and head choppers.
While denouncing Putin's actions as war crimes both the Western politicians and media are very quick to label Russia's crimes but don't look at their own actions in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria and others.
Firstly, it was the West that provoked Russia by expanding NATO to the Baltic Regions, providing arms, ammunition and training to the AZOV Brigade to confront Russian. Giving Ukraine the false expectations that they would be protected by the NATO which encouraged Ukraine to provoke Russia by refusing to honour the Maidan and Minsk agreements with the expectation that NATO will have their backs. When Russia asked for guarantees from the West they were told to "go pound salt".
Secondly, the hypocrisy of Western arm chair warriors with their narrative of the suffering of the Ukrainians whilst ignoring the suffering in the Middle East who are victims of Western bombs and sanctions. The suffering of the Ukrainians are terrible but so is the suffering of the Palestinians. There are more footage of destruction in Ukraine than all of the Middle East in the media.
The West will have Ukraine drag this war out to weaken Russian until the final slaughter in Syria. The West supports for the good guys are questionable!

[Dizzy28]

On a positive note for Russia they paid an interest payment on a sovereign bond payment today (and in US$ contrary to what Putin threatened). Seems they have more competent ppl in their Min of Finance/Central Bank than in their Military. The last time Russia or the Soviet Union defaulted on a bond payment was during the Bolshevik Revolution.

https://www.reuters.com/business/russia ... 022-03-17/

[VexXx Dogg]

Russia is tanking badly on the logistics and planning front.
The cannon fodder approach can only get so far.

They cannot feed their soldiers, nor efficiently supply fuel to their equipment.

According to Arnold's vid on twitter - many of the soldiers do not know they are in a war.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1504426844199669762

Check that vid out. I think Putin was following Arnold's account, not sure if he still does after that callout.

[Dizzy28]

Russia is tanking badly on the logistics and planning front.
The cannon fodder approach can only get so far.

They cannot feed their soldiers, nor efficiently supply fuel to their equipment.

According to Arnold's vid on twitter - many of the soldiers do not know they are in a war.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1504426844199669762

Check that vid out. I think Putin was following Arnold's account, not sure if he still does after that callout.

There's a nice article by a military analyst on the Russian dependence on train heads. The Russian military's ability to have logistics in place depends on their distance from a rail head. I'll see if I can find it. Essentially by now they should have captured Ukrainian rail stations deep into Ukraine. Ukraine also uses the wide gauge rail Russia uses so they were not expecting any major issues.

The other major issue is the use of cheap Chinese Tyres and the inability to maintain those tyres. In the first week brand new Russian equipment like Pantsirs SAMs and mobile air defence systems were suffering tyre blowouts.

But at the end of the day the Ukrainian ppl also are standing up and fighting much more than the Russians expected.

[adnj]

On a positive note for Russia they paid an interest payment on a sovereign bond payment today (and in US$ contrary to what Putin threatened). Seems they have more competent ppl in their Min of Finance/Central Bank than in their Military. The last time Russia or the Soviet Union defaulted on a bond payment was during the Bolshevik Revolution.

https://www.reuters.com/business/russia ... 022-03-17/

The payment was made using frozen assets. Permission was granted for the transfer by the US government.

[VexXx Dogg]

Putin's demands to end the war.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60785754

[sMASH]

sooo, ukraine would have to become like russia's cuba?
he he he.

[matr1x]

sooo, ukraine would have to become like russia's cuba?
he he he.

With better brothels

[88sins]

Russia is tanking badly on the logistics and planning front.
The cannon fodder approach can only get so far.

They cannot feed their soldiers, nor efficiently supply fuel to their equipment.

According to Arnold's vid on twitter - many of the soldiers do not know they are in a war.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1504426844199669762

Check that vid out. I think Putin was following Arnold's account, not sure if he still does after that callout.

There's a nice article by a military analyst on the Russian dependence on train heads. The Russian military's ability to have logistics in place depends on their distance from a rail head. I'll see if I can find it. Essentially by now they should have captured Ukrainian rail stations deep into Ukraine. Ukraine also uses the wide gauge rail Russia uses so they were not expecting any major issues.

The other major issue is the use of cheap Chinese Tyres and the inability to maintain those tyres. In the first week brand new Russian equipment like Pantsirs SAMs and mobile air defence systems were suffering tyre blowouts.

But at the end of the day the Ukrainian ppl also are standing up and fighting much more than the Russians expected.

THIS is what has the Russian advance in its current snails pace position. They didn't expect the civilian population to arm themselves and join in the fight, and that as a result of that the russian military has been forced to engage in a type of guerrilla warfare that they are not familiar with.
Basically, it's a game of very small groups of Ukrainian fighters are taking out strategic Russian installations and equipment, and then disappearing. It's easy to see 500 enemy troops headed your way, so you can spot them from a distance and take up an offensive or defensive position. it not so easy to spot 30-50 men moving under cover of debris & terrain sneaking up on you, whose sole objective is to disable your ability to move and disappear before you even figure out exactly where the assault is coming from.

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Kremlin’s occupation blueprint goes up in smoke as Ukraine fights back
Amid killings, kidnappings and abuse, Ukrainians are thwarting Putin’s plans to rerun his Crimea occupation playbook.


A couple of Ukrainian soldiers walks hand in hand amid Russian invasion of Ukraine | Sergei Supinsky/AFP via Getty Images

In Melitopol, Kherson and other Ukrainian locales now under Russian control, the Kremlin’s occupation plan is going as badly as Vladimir Putin’s plan for quick military conquest.

In seizing or surrounding urban centers, especially in the traditionally Russian-speaking southeast, the Russian president had hoped to largely rerun his 2014 invasion of Crimea, in which the local Ukrainian parliament quickly sided with Russia and helped carry out an annexation.

Glimmers of that same post-invasion playbook have been on display in recent days. Russian forces have kidnapped local politicians, created councils loyal to Russia and promised economic benefits for residents, including lower household utility rates.

But unlike in Crimea, which had little support from a central government in disarray, Ukrainians are now fighting back, quickly drawing attention to abductions and disinformation, rejecting the overtures of aid as obvious bait on a deadly hook, and undermining the ability of Moscow to create even a facade of public support.

The pushback by Ukrainians has not only upended the occupation script but shattered illusions about the Kremlin’s mastery of political manipulation, much as the Ukrainian military’s unlikely successes have shattered the image of Russia as overwhelming military power. It is also confronting Putin with an uncomfortable reality: Even if he prevails militarily, long-term political defeat is virtually certain. Unlike Russians, who have tolerated authoritarianism for decades, Ukrainians took to the streets for pro-democracy revolutions in 2004 and 2013 and, no doubt, would do so again. ...

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... blueprint/

[De Dragon]

Russia's military is weak if Ukraine giving them all this pressure how can they hope to go against the US if push come to shove

Nuclear. That's what Trump ball blowers like Caxxos and Vulva don't understand.

[hover11]

Biden looks to assess where China’s Xi stands on Russia war


https://guardian.co.tt/news/biden-looks ... ff896edb91

If China comes out and says they side with Russia, would be interesting to see what the US next move would be...

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Biden looks to assess where China’s Xi stands on Russia war


https://guardian.co.tt/news/biden-looks ... ff896edb91

If China comes out and says they side with Russia, would be interesting to see what the US next move would be...

Easy.Paint China as another villain and get the sympathy of idiots

[hover11]

Biden looks to assess where China’s Xi stands on Russia war


https://guardian.co.tt/news/biden-looks ... ff896edb91

If China comes out and says they side with Russia, would be interesting to see what the US next move would be...

Easy.Paint China as another villain and get the sympathy of idiots

However China is the villain that can crush the US in a heartbeat, tbh it would be in the US best interests to stay out of this and not mash the corns of their master

[VexXx Dogg]

Biden looks to assess where China’s Xi stands on Russia war


https://guardian.co.tt/news/biden-looks ... ff896edb91

If China comes out and says they side with Russia, would be interesting to see what the US next move would be...

China already take front and say they don't want sanctions.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1 ... nctions-fm

Remember, their internal growth is funded by all the $$ coming in. Their standard of life is much higher with this kind of economic system. Sanctions will squeeze growth bad.

So basically, they will help Russia as least as they can. Maybe sending thoughts and prayers.
The financial squeeze happening on Russia is unprecedented, no?

[Dizzy28]

Biden looks to assess where China’s Xi stands on Russia war


https://guardian.co.tt/news/biden-looks ... ff896edb91

If China comes out and says they side with Russia, would be interesting to see what the US next move would be...

They already said what they will do. Sec of State Blinken said yesterday -

WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken said on Thursday that the United States would punish China if President Xi Jinping chose to give military aid to Russia for the war in Ukraine, where Russian forces have killed thousands of civilians.

“We’re concerned that they’re considering directly assisting Russia with military equipment to use in Ukraine,” Mr. Blinken said at a news conference in Washington. “President Biden will be speaking to President Xi tomorrow and will make clear that China will bear responsibility for any actions it takes to support Russia’s aggression, and we will not hesitate to impose costs.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/17/us/p ... apons.html

[De Dragon]

Biden looks to assess where China’s Xi stands on Russia war


https://guardian.co.tt/news/biden-looks ... ff896edb91

If China comes out and says they side with Russia, would be interesting to see what the US next move would be...

Easy.Paint China as another villain and get the sympathy of idiots

Soooo, sympathy instead for China and Russia who have naked, and now in at least one case acted on, designs on other countries?

[SuperiorMan]

Czar Putin toying with Biden and his mutt dog Kamala.

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Biden looks to assess where China’s Xi stands on Russia war


https://guardian.co.tt/news/biden-looks ... ff896edb91

If China comes out and says they side with Russia, would be interesting to see what the US next move would be...

Easy.Paint China as another villain and get the sympathy of idiots

Soooo, sympathy instead for China and Russia who have naked, and now in at least one case acted on, designs on other countries?

I smell a chain up