The Religion Discussion

[3stagevtec]

is Physics the work of the devil??

Physics work according to the laws of God. Thus it cannot be the work of the devil.

The devil did not lay out the "ordinances of the heaven and the earth".

but yet Physics cannot prove he exists.. in fact, it proves quite the opposite..

[3stagevtec]

3Stage: Tell me about the appendix. Is it as useless as Doctors/Evolutionists say or did God have a plan?

people survive quite well without it.. what's your point?

i did a quick search and found..

New studies propose that the appendix may harbor and protect bacteria that are beneficial in the function of the human colon.

beneficial, but not necessary..

[Gladiator]

If the moon were over 4 billion years old, it would have been so close that it would have touched the earth less than 1.5 billion years ago.

No moron... the moon was actually part of the earth and its only after a couple million years did it form from the debris orbiting the planet....

Also the moon wasnt formed in the big bang but by some other mega event that occured after with the earth and a foriegn objct such as a comet.

Physics doesnt work according to the laws of god cause the bible had people thinking the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth and they killed thousands for thinking otherwise...

But with serious concern fellas, lay off bluefete and QG now cause if they really see proof that what they believe in isnt the all truth they might go into some kinda serious suicidal depression or something...

We can all be charged with cyber bullying leading to suicide (if there is such a thing)

[Gladiator]

bluefete wrote:
Many people have bought into the concept of the big-bang without realizing that it is based on the anti-biblical philosophy of naturalism (i.e. - there is no God and nature is all there is or ever was).

6,000 years ago, the moon would have been about 800 feet closer to the earth because of tidal forces pulling "forward" on the moon.

The moon now moves about 1 1/2 inches farther away from earth each year due to tidal interaction.

If the moon were over 4 billion years old, it would have been so close that it would have touched the earth less than 1.5 billion years ago.

The recession of the moon is a problem for belief in billions of years but is perfectly consistent with a young age (Dr. Jason Lisle)

LOL someone had a hard time in science class in secondary school boy...

Imagine that the tides pulling the moon...


...ROFL

[16 cycles]

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The moon now moves about 1 1/2 inches farther away from earth each year due to tidal interaction.....

please clarify...

[Skanky]

ah kno ah real late on dis one eh...buh u ever hear abt anaerobic respiration bluefete?

No. But I will research it.

Wha the jail is disssssss?This explains sooooo much.Basic form 1 integrated science you have to research?There is NO WAY you forget what anaerobic respiration is....unless you never knew in the first place.
This entire thread is more useless than I first imagined.

So basically you didn't go to school,have no formal education but expect us to listen to you and try to have an intellectual discussion.No wonder your posts are the way they are......and you believe what you do.

For those who think I am insulting bluefete I am not.....or that I believe people who have lesser or no schooling are stupid...I don't....I just believe you can't expect someone with that level of learning/ability to be able to think on a much higher level...just putting things in perspective so we could ascertain the quality of the thinking we dealing with....and the quality of bluefete's "research".

[bluefete]

If the moon were over 4 billion years old, it would have been so close that it would have touched the earth less than 1.5 billion years ago.

No moron... the moon was actually part of the earth and its only after a couple million years did it form from the debris orbiting the planet....

Also the moon wasnt formed in the big bang but by some other mega event that occured after with the earth and a foriegn objct such as a comet.

Physics doesnt work according to the laws of god cause the bible had people thinking the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth and they killed thousands for thinking otherwise...

But with serious concern fellas, lay off bluefete and QG now cause if they really see proof that what they believe in isnt the all truth they might go into some kinda serious suicidal depression or something...

We can all be charged with cyber bullying leading to suicide (if there is such a thing)

Not true that highlighted part. It was the church & the priests that had people believing that rubbish.

I have shown you consistently that the Bible categorically showed the earth was round and that the sun together with our solar system moved around the heavens.

Just as you accuse me of, you also ignore the plainly stated writing of God.

Sorry, no luck there with the suicide or depression. That is why I am not phased by all the attacks from the logicalists.

At least I try to disprove the evolutionists/atheists/agnostics/logicalists by showing what the Bible says.

Unfortunately, no one has been able to disprove what was written other than to put their own spin on it.

[ronsin1]

This thread is tears

I will say nothing on the matter

[16 cycles]

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The moon now moves about 1 1/2 inches farther away from earth each year due to tidal interaction.....

please clarify...

[bluefete]

ah kno ah real late on dis one eh...buh u ever hear abt anaerobic respiration bluefete?

No. But I will research it.

Wha the jail is disssssss?This explains sooooo much.Basic form 1 integrated science you have to research?There is NO WAY you forget what anaerobic respiration is....unless you never knew in the first place.
This entire thread is more useless than I first imagined.

So basically you didn't go to school,have no formal education but expect us to listen to you and try to have an intellectual discussion.No wonder your posts are the way they are......and you believe what you do.

For those who think I am insulting bluefete I am not.....or that I believe people who have lesser or no schooling are stupid...I don't....I just believe you can't expect someone with that level of learning/ability to be able to think on a much higher level...just putting things in perspective so we could ascertain the quality of the thinking we dealing with....and the quality of bluefete's "research".

Skanky; At least I was honest in answering your question.

Not everyone is as bright as you are.

I take no offense at what you write.

[bluefete]

Here - Hold this for Now.

Planet's Reverse Orbit a New Twist in Old Evolutionary Story
by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

The Wide Area Search for Planets (WASP) project has discovered a planet that orbits backward, against the rotational direction of its star. Methodological naturalists think collisions or near-collisions are the causes of unusual cosmic phenomena like this. But this reverse-orbit observation adds to a growing list of astronomical features that should not exist if collisions and other random physical processes are all that could have caused them.1

The planet was named WASP-17, the seventeenth planet identified by WASP astronomers at the Geneva Observatory. They were looking for faint, periodic “blinksâ€

[bluefete]

Here - Hold This One Too.




Ida Missed Her Link to Humans
by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

This past May, a fossil nicknamed Ida was loudly heralded by the evolutionary scientific community as the long-sought-after “missing linkâ€

[bigga514]

how did you come up with the earth being 10,000 years old?
surely thats your choiceof numbers and not what the bible states

[nismotrinidappa]

[quote="bluefete"]Here - Hold This One Too.




Ida Missed Her Link to Humans
by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

This past May, a fossil nicknamed Ida was loudly heralded by the evolutionary scientific community as the long-sought-after “missing linkâ€

[DFC]

blufete...common sense would tell you...
first of...you believe god is omnipotent...omnipresent.
omnipresent-means god is everywhere....

That means God is in Hell !!....OMG...God is in Hell....why d ass then yuh striving to go to heaven?
God & Satan in hell?...how can they both be in hell? OR IS GOD ALSO SATAN? (oh no!)

If god is not in hell..then he is NOT omnipresent..then he is NOT god.

Also... GOD IS AN ATHIEST!!
Does God..believe in GOD?
does god....believe in a power higher than him....that has control over him?

hhahah...God is an Athiest...so dont blame me for being one!!

[16 cycles]

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The moon now moves about 1 1/2 inches farther away from earth each year due to tidal interaction.....

please clarify...

[QG]

Duane 3NE 2NR, Quote: there have been quite a few episodes of God wiping out everything due to abominations. But clearly there are far far more abominations by far far more people today. The population of the earth today is far more than it was then, more people = more sin committed - another "wiping" should have happened a long time ago, why hasn't it? :Quote


Can we seriously prove that we are in more sin than the previous continent that was wiped out? Or is it just your speculation?

Could it be that God thinks that we (our present Generation) today are worth saving and have the ability to CHANGE?
That's why he hasn't wiped out another continent in our presnt time....could that be strong fact sir?!?!

Think about it, those persons who were wiped off from the earth; God probably knew that they were not willing or going to change.
After all, God knows our HEARTS.

[bluefete]

blufete...common sense would tell you...
first of...you believe god is omnipotent...omnipresent.
omnipresent-means god is everywhere....

That means God is in Hell !!....OMG...God is in Hell....why d ass then yuh striving to go to heaven?
God & Satan in hell?...how can they both be in hell? OR IS GOD ALSO SATAN? (oh no!)

If god is not in hell..then he is NOT omnipresent..then he is NOT god.

Also... GOD IS AN ATHIEST!!
Does God..believe in GOD?
does god....believe in a power higher than him....that has control over him?

hhahah...God is an Athiest...so dont blame me for being one!!

DFC: If you create a robot and gave it free will, will that robot ever be higher than you?

Let's say you give the robot artificial intelligence, would that robot ever be smarter than you, who made it?

Why abrogate unto yourself, a power that you do not and will never have?

[16 cycles]

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The moon now moves about 1 1/2 inches farther away from earth each year due to tidal interaction.....

please clarify...

[DFC]

16 cycles, ..d man cant answer that question...
nor can he answer mine....
instead he bluffin with some robot crap...

[bigga514]

Duane 3NE 2NR, Quote: there have been quite a few episodes of God wiping out everything due to abominations. But clearly there are far far more abominations by far far more people today. The population of the earth today is far more than it was then, more people = more sin committed - another "wiping" should have happened a long time ago, why hasn't it? :Quote


Can we seriously prove that we are in more sin than the previous continent that was wiped out? Or is it just your speculation?

Could it be that God thinks that we (our present Generation) today are worth saving and have the ability to CHANGE?
That's why he hasn't wiped out another continent in our presnt time....could that be strong fact sir?!?!

Think about it, those persons who were wiped off from the earth; God probably knew that they were not willing or going to change.
After all, God knows our HEARTS.

1.3 million openly gay ppl in california
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_village
vs Sodom and Gomorrah
Apartheid, slavery and genocide In africa, europe and middle east.

these numbers keep rising and you seriously want ppl to take that hypothesis seriously in fact we as man kind are changing for the worse jus look at trinidad for an example.

[bluefete]

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The moon now moves about 1 1/2 inches farther away from earth each year due to tidal interaction.....

please clarify...

I am putting some info together to answer you. Have some patience. Remember it is just one or two of us and the rest of you.

[bluefete]

16 cycles, ..d man cant answer that question...
nor can he answer mine....
instead he bluffin with some robot crap...

No DFC. You miss the point or deliberately do not want to answer the question I asked because it will nullify your arguments against God.

I am not bluffing with some robot crap.

If you cannot answer the analogy ......

[16 cycles]

bluefete - i'm not against, just asking for clarification, thanks

[QG]

Why do the great people come from different religions?
Simple answer. The same God made all of us. Men made religion. God made us.

He uses whomsoever he wills, regardless of religion.

bluefete contradiction #421
So the God of your bible made Gandhi a great man and kept him practicing Hinduism his entire life and not solely as a devout Christian?

Even Mother Theresa saw to it that in the hospice she ran that dying patients "were afforded the opportunity to die with dignity, according to the rituals of their faith; Muslims were read the Quran, Hindus received water from the Ganges, and Catholics received the Last Rites"

surely your jealous God would not allow this!

God chooses people regardless of their religious affiliation to do his great work. You will find this in all cultures.

Remember Duane, regardless of religion, we are all created by the same God.

I will agree on that, God also uses poeple to do his works regardless of Religion.
I have lots of Hindu and Muslim friends, we all help out each other when needed. Why God hasn't stop that???????
A matter of fact, why haven't THEIR God stopped it?

There are many things that we ALL don't understand.

Bluefete, I have a question for you.
Do you believe that Christianity is a Religion, or just created by Roman Catholics?
And what religion are you?

[bluefete]

bluefete - i'm not against, just asking for clarification, thanks

I am putting together something that will give you greater detail.

[bigga514]

How did you come up with the earth being 10,000 years old when by calculation from the bible puts it at around 6,332 to 6,579 years old
And where within there did the tectonic plates shift to form different continents or is that a false myth like evolution. and what does the bible say about the human appendix that made you ask?




why am i still in here?
*goes to play xbox360

[QG]

Duane 3NE 2NR, Quote: there have been quite a few episodes of God wiping out everything due to abominations. But clearly there are far far more abominations by far far more people today. The population of the earth today is far more than it was then, more people = more sin committed - another "wiping" should have happened a long time ago, why hasn't it? :Quote


Can we seriously prove that we are in more sin than the previous continent that was wiped out? Or is it just your speculation?

Could it be that God thinks that we (our present Generation) today are worth saving and have the ability to CHANGE?
That's why he hasn't wiped out another continent in our presnt time....could that be strong fact sir?!?!

Think about it, those persons who were wiped off from the earth; God probably knew that they were not willing or going to change.
After all, God knows our HEARTS.

1.3 million openly gay ppl in california
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_village
vs Sodom and Gomorrah
Apartheid, slavery and genocide In africa, europe and middle east.

these numbers keep rising and you seriously want ppl to take that hypothesis seriously in fact we as man kind are changing for the worse jus look at trinidad for an example.

Read the first few lines of your link!

It said "A LARGE NUMBER" of people are of lesbian and gay etc. It never said "ALL" right?
That's a big difference there

As i posted before, God may not destroy a continent in our present time because he may see persons worth saving.
We cannot pass judgement and assumptions from our times and the past...we weren't there LOL.

Suppose the continent that was destroyed was fulled with gays, lesbians, idolers, adulterers etc etc....EACH AND EVERY ONE??? And God had them wiped out.
And has not wiped out this country that you posted because there are persons left who are good.

Think about that

[bluefete]

Why do the great people come from different religions?
Simple answer. The same God made all of us. Men made religion. God made us.

He uses whomsoever he wills, regardless of religion.

bluefete contradiction #421
So the God of your bible made Gandhi a great man and kept him practicing Hinduism his entire life and not solely as a devout Christian?

Even Mother Theresa saw to it that in the hospice she ran that dying patients "were afforded the opportunity to die with dignity, according to the rituals of their faith; Muslims were read the Quran, Hindus received water from the Ganges, and Catholics received the Last Rites"

surely your jealous God would not allow this!

God chooses people regardless of their religious affiliation to do his great work. You will find this in all cultures.

Remember Duane, regardless of religion, we are all created by the same God.

I will agree on that, God also uses poeple to do his works regardless of Religion.
I have lots of Hindu and Muslim friends, we all help out each other when needed. Why God hasn't stop that???????
A matter of fact, why haven't THEIR God stopped it?

There are many things that we ALL don't understand.

Bluefete, I have a question for you.
Do you believe that Christianity is a Religion, or just created by Roman Catholics?
And what religion are you?

Chrisitianity is a religion, like Islam & so on. It was not created by Roman Catholics.

I do not belong to any religion.

BUT, I do believe in God. Now, while my quotations may come from the Bible, I also read, to an extent, the Quran, Bhagavad Gita, Vedas & Upanishads among others.

A few weeks ago I was listening to Power 102Fm morning program. David Muhammed (Islam) & Wendell Stevens (Christian) were having a discussion and Richard Ragoobarsingh came in with a statement along the lines of: " Look at them, the Christian and the Muslim .." and he tailed off.

When I heard it, my first reaction was - What an amazing thing. In many other countries of the world, today, you cannot even have a Muslim & a Christian in the same room, far less having a discussion or teasing each other.

But this is something that we take for granted.

On this little island of T&T, God has placed such a rich diversity of people with different backgrounds and even though we may not agree, we all learn from each other.

One of the most beautiful things you can hear, even if you are a non-Muslim, is the 5:00 a.m. Call to Prayer. Or even if your are a Non-Hindu, the singing of bhajans.

At the end of the day, we have too many similarities as humans for me to believe that we are all accidental freaks of nature.

[DFC]

blufete...common sense would tell you...
first of...you believe god is omnipotent...omnipresent.
omnipresent-means god is everywhere....

That means God is in Hell !!....OMG...God is in Hell....why d ass then yuh striving to go to heaven?
God & Satan in hell?...how can they both be in hell? OR IS GOD ALSO SATAN? (oh no!)

If god is not in hell..then he is NOT omnipresent..then he is NOT god.

Also... GOD IS AN ATHIEST!!
Does God..believe in GOD?
does god....believe in a power higher than him....that has control over him?

hhahah...God is an Athiest...so dont blame me for being one!!

DFC: If you create a robot and gave it free will, will that robot ever be higher than you?

Let's say you give the robot artificial intelligence, would that robot ever be smarter than you, who made it?

Why abrogate unto yourself, a power that you do not and will never have?

no....the robot will not be higher than me..
how does that relate to what i said?

now answer my questions...