Ukraine Russia War

[adnj]

What was the US death toll in benghazi? What was the US death toll when they left Afghanistan the other day? How many marines died in the crash the other day? Why is no one questioning the competence of the US military after after these and many other incidents? If Russia so disorganized why they don't just launch a mission and take out putin?

The estimate for Russian losses is now 10,000

Russia has lost 7,000 soldiers in Ukraine in 20 days, more than America lost in 20 years in Afghanistan & Iraq: US

Chidanand Rajghatta / TNN / Updated: Mar 17, 2022, 21:33 IST

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 297683.cms

It's a United Nations issue to address. That's in their charter.

UN Peacekeeping helps countries navigate the difficult path from conflict to peace. We have unique strengths, including legitimacy, burden sharing, and an ability to deploy troops and police from around the world, integrating them with civilian peacekeepers to address a range of mandates set by the UN Security Council and General Assembly.

https://peacekeeping.un.org/en

Damnn but you dumb.

Even if your very credible source of CNN (lol) is true, the US lost those wars. Russia will win this one.

The Soviet Union’s war in Afghanistan led to the collapse of the USSR. There are lessons to be learned from the Kremlin’s nearly decade-long failure trying to combat the mujahideen in Afghanistan. Given Russia’s incompetent but brutal war in Ukraine, now being directed primarily at hapless civilians, plus an already collapsing economy caused by international sanctions, it could also mean the end of Putin’s ambitions for a new empire.

The whole purpose now of an effective resistance strategy by the Ukranians is to ensure that occupation simply becomes too costly – and pointless – to continue. The Soviet Union lost up to 25,000 dead during the Afghan war. Russia could face similar casualties in Ukraine. They will have achieved nothing, except, perhaps the demise of both Putin and his dream of a new, expansionist Russia.

https://lenews.ch/2022/03/21/russias-wa ... fghanistan

[88sins]

get some iodide tablets. rushia might drop a nuke anytime now on ukrain.

Nah, nukes aren't really an option in this farce of a war.
Because ok, yes, they will end the conflict between the two countries immediately, but they will cause large swaths of land where they are used in the country to become uninhabitable andbl unusable. No sense fighting to take over a country and when you win you hadda wait 100 minimum years before you can safely occupy it or do anything with it, and that's IF you can hold on to it that long.
And that's not even mentioning the chain of events that kinda move will unleash.

But chemical weapons? Oh yes, quite likely he studying which to chemical agent to use, where, and when. And even that will trigger an international response, though not as bad a response for Russia as a nuclear attack would.

[redmanjp]

but how much civilians dead already from the targeted attacks on non-military places? that alone should prompt some kind of response

[Dohplaydat]

get some iodide tablets. rushia might drop a nuke anytime now on ukrain.

Nah, nukes aren't really an option in this farce of a war.
Because ok, yes, they will end the conflict between the two countries immediately, but they will cause large swaths of land where they are used in the country to become uninhabitable andbl unusable. No sense fighting to take over a country and when you win you hadda wait 100 minimum years before you can safely occupy it or do anything with it, and that's IF you can hold on to it that long.
And that's not even mentioning the chain of events that kinda move will unleash.

But chemical weapons? Oh yes, quite likely he studying which to chemical agent to use, where, and when. And even that will trigger an international response, though not as bad a response for Russia as a nuclear attack would.

Tactical nukes could be deployed, I feel Russia just waiting for any excuse to use them.

[MaxPower]

but how much civilians dead already from the targeted attacks on non-military places? that alone should prompt some kind of response

How many people are starving to death all over the world?

How many people are being robbed, raped and murdered every second?

How many animals are being brutalized and tortured?

How much pollution is the environment facing every single day?

Who are we really fooling?

If this alone has not prompted some kind of response, well brother i think you already got the response you’re looking for.

[88sins]

@dpd
Tactical nuclear weapons and their usage is still greatly discouraged.

Worse yet, using that kinda firepower against militia and non-combatant civilians? Madness.


If he make that mistake, Russia will be on the receiving end of so many problems it not funny. If yuh feel the ruble weak now, it go only be good for toilet paper if he makes even a gesture towards considering such a thing. And the few alliances Putin still have, they will drop him like a bad habit immediately after, for fear of reprisals for supporting him after such a move.

[Mmoney607]

The more I read the more I'm learning that Russia is not the bad one.

We have all fallen for western propaganda. Russia has far more right to go into Ukraine than the US did with Iraq.

Ukraine was directly threatening Russia with their huge military
Ukraine had stolen Russia lands like Crimea and Donesk
Ukraine has a huge NEO Nazi contingent that is getting PAID from Zalenksi
Ukraine is all up in the West's backside for years
Ukraine was heavily taxing Russian gas that passes through their country
Ukraine with the help of the US was developing Biological and Chemical weapons.

Yet, the all the media would have us convinced Putin is the next Hitler.

Putin is a good man, a man of God, a man who doesn't accept homosexuality, a man who wants the best for his people.

Look at Russia's past and compare it to any western country.

Russia NEVER had black slaves nor did Russia create a market to trade black people (1600-1800).
Russia NEVER participated in the Berlin conference to share Africa like some piece of goat meat (1884).
Russia NEVER colonised, underdeveloped and looted Africa's resources (1914-1960).
Russia NEVER enabled a safety net for African leaders to hide stolen funds, use these stolen funds to develop itself and then grant the same funds back to Africa as loans.
Russia never invaded and destabilized any African country (Libya, Somalia, Congo, Burkina Faso, Egypt, South Africa, et cetera).
Russia NEVER killed any of African Freedom Fighter but UK and USA have killed hundreds of of our Saviours and thousands you of our African Freedom Fighters are still languishing in different prisons and dungeons all over America.
Who killed Marcus Garvey of Black Panther USA.
Who killed Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso.
Who killed Patrice Lumumba of Congo.
Who killed Malcolm X. Of Black Panther.
Who killed Mu'ammar Al' Gaddafi of Libya.
Who killed Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Of African American.
Who Killed Tupac Sharkur.
Who Killed Fela Kuti.
Who Killed Stephen Biko of Bantu in South Africa.
Who Killed Solomon Mahlangu.
Who killed 5 million BIAFRANS.
...et cetera.
Those who did the aforementioned are the ones pushing the narrative that "Russia" has become the Boogeyman... Those who colonized and for about 100 years refused to share their technology with Africa want Africa to like those they like and hate those they hate.
Nah! Never again!
If Russia is the Boogeyman, then the west the devil himself

Russia also fought against apartheid

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Still, to date,the ONLY country to nuke another country is the good ol US of A

[VexXx Dogg]

Maduro balls scratching?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/22/ve ... u5omUoCQL8

[adnj]

Russia intensifies Mariupol bombardment as street fighting rages

Russian forces have intensified their bombardment of the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol as street fighting has raged on Tuesday, a day after Mariupol authorities rejected Moscow’s ultimatum to surrender, Ukrainian officials said. Russian shelling is turning the southern city into the “ashes of a dead land”, the city council said on Tuesday. Russia’s RIA news agency said Russian forces and units of Russian-backed separatists had taken about half of the city, citing a separatist leader.

[adnj]

Russia also fought against apartheid

No.

Have your antiapartheid conversation with Africans that actually lived in Russia and see how far it goes.

The Soviet Union, not Russia, gave aid to any South African political parties that were against the SA ruling party. The Soviet Union gave aid and arms to many African organizations in an attempt to spread communism throughout the continent. Notably, Soviets and Cubans fought in Angola against South Africans during the Angolan Civil War.

The SA ruling party was strongly anti-communist and passed legislation against communist activities.

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The Suppression of Communism Act, No. 44 of 1950, according to which the Communist Party of South Africa (CPSA) was declared an illegal organisation, was approved on 26 June in parliament and came into force on 17 July 1950. Dates concerning the approval vary slightly in different sources, i.e. it is given as 24 June in Illustrated History of South Africa, but 26 June seems to be the most accepted date. The Suppression of Communism Act, banned the South African Communist Party and gave the government the power to ban publications that promoted the objectives of communism, and the power to 'name' people who could be barred from holding office, practicing as lawyers or attending meetings.

https://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-even ... parliament

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Africa is not relevant in this situation at all

[adnj]

NATO peacekeepers in Ukraine will trigger direct war between Russia and NATO

Poland wants to bring in its peacekeepers to Ukraine to create a headquarters in Lvov and "stay there," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said. According to him, the Baltic countries already propose sending military battalions to Ukraine.

A move to send NATO peacekeepers to Ukraine will turn into a direct military confrontation between NATO and Russia, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said at a meeting with students and professors of MGIMO (Moscow State Institute of International Relations).

"Our Polish colleagues have said that there will be a NATO summit held, that they need to send peacekeepers. I hope they understand what they are talking about. This would be a direct confrontation between Russian and NATO armed forces, which everyone wanted to avoid saying that it should never take place at all,” Lavrov said.

According to him, if peacekeepers enter Ukraine from the western border, this could mean that Poland may pursue a goal to create headquarters in Lvov in order to stay there afterwards.

Speaking about the second goal of this "provocation", Lavrov said that the Baltic countries "can send their little battalions to defend Ukraine" too.

Russia must maintain restraint, the minister noted. Moscow has already outlined its position on the Ukrainian issue in writing.

On March 16, Polish Deputy Prime Minister Yaroslav Kaczynski said that NATO needs to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

"I believe that a NATO peacekeeping mission is needed, perhaps some kind of a broader international system, but a mission that will be able to defend itself, that will act in Ukraine,” he said.

The NATO charter has no provisions stipulating the deployment of peacekeeping missions in third countries. Ukraine is not a member of NATO, but former President Petro Poroshenko amended the Ukrainian Constitution, having enshrined its course towards NATO membership.

https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/15 ... ussia_war/

[adnj]

Outnumbered five to one, Ukraine’s top guns fend off Russian fighter jets against the odds

During a month at war, Kyiv’s pilots have stymied Moscow’s attempt to establish air superiority despite being given little chance

22 March 2022 • 6:56pm



Out of Ukraine’s total fleet of about 100 combat aircraft at the start of the war, roughly a third were Su-27s Credit: AFP Photo/Ministry of Defence of Ukraine

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -invasion/

[Dizzy28]

Pity they didn't get the other two ships as well.

War in Ukraine: Explosion seen in Berdyansk as navy claims to destroy Russian ship
War in Ukraine: Explosion seen in Berdyansk as navy claims to destroy Russian ship

Ukraine's navy says it has destroyed a Russian landing ship named the Orsk in the port city of Berdyansk.

Footage posted on social media shows a large explosion in the distance.

Details of what caused the explosion and fire on board the ship are unclear.

The BBC has verified and geolocated this footage.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europ ... 4?xtor=AL-

[adnj]

NATO says 7,000 to 15,000 Russian troops dead in Ukraine

Mar 23, 2022 4:20 PM EDT

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — NATO estimated on Wednesday that 7,000 to 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in four weeks of war in Ukraine, where fierce fighting by the country’s fast-moving defenders has denied Moscow the lightning victory it sought.

By way of comparison, Russia lost about 15,000 troops over 10 years in Afghanistan.

A senior NATO military official said the alliance’s estimate was based on information from Ukrainian authorities, what Russia has released — intentionally or not — and intelligence gathered from open sources. The official spoke on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by NATO.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/nato ... in-ukraine

[Mmoney607]

Outnumbered five to one, Ukraine’s top guns fend off Russian fighter jets against the odds

During a month at war, Kyiv’s pilots have stymied Moscow’s attempt to establish air superiority despite being given little chance

22 March 2022 • 6:56pm



Out of Ukraine’s total fleet of about 100 combat aircraft at the start of the war, roughly a third were Su-27s Credit: AFP Photo/Ministry of Defence of Ukraine

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -invasion/

So why Biden fraid Russia?

[SuperiorMan]

NATO says 7,000 to 15,000 Russian troops dead in Ukraine

Mar 23, 2022 4:20 PM EDT

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — NATO estimated on Wednesday that 7,000 to 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in four weeks of war in Ukraine, where fierce fighting by the country’s fast-moving defenders has denied Moscow the lightning victory it sought.

By way of comparison, Russia lost about 15,000 troops over 10 years in Afghanistan.

A senior NATO military official said the alliance’s estimate was based on information from Ukrainian authorities, what Russia has released — intentionally or not — and intelligence gathered from open sources. The official spoke on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by NATO.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/nato ... in-ukraine

Wonder what russian sources say.

[zoom rader]

Outnumbered five to one, Ukraine’s top guns fend off Russian fighter jets against the odds

During a month at war, Kyiv’s pilots have stymied Moscow’s attempt to establish air superiority despite being given little chance

22 March 2022 • 6:56pm



Out of Ukraine’s total fleet of about 100 combat aircraft at the start of the war, roughly a third were Su-27s Credit: AFP Photo/Ministry of Defence of Ukraine

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -invasion/

So why Biden fraid Russia?

He's fighting the economic war.

Wars don't have to be about blood shed.

[adnj]

Anonymous hacks into Russian central bank, pension fund | Taiwan News | 2022-03-24 12:00:00


(Anonymous image)

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The decentralized international hacktivist collective Anonymous announced this week that it hacked into both the Russian central bank and a pension fund, launched a "printer attack," and is preparing to attack Russian physical infrastructure.

Since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, Anonymous has launched a cyber war that has consisted of hacking into Russian government and state-run media websites, industrial control systems, the Kremlin's website, and hundreds of surveillance cameras across Russia. A representative of the collective informed Taiwan News it hacked into the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation (PFR) on Tuesday (March 22).

According to the representative, Anonymous has "wiped" the database, server data, and backups for the fund in many regions of Russia. The regions affected include Moscow Oblast, Amur Oblast, Buryatia, Tuva Republic, Smolensk Oblast, Pskov Oblast, Kaliningrad Oblast, and Altai Republic.

The collective warned that the attacks on Russia will "continue as long as there are civilian casualties in Ukraine." As of publication, the PFR website is still offline.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4483904

[SuperiorMan]

Anonymous hacks into Russian central bank, pension fund | Taiwan News | 2022-03-24 12:00:00


(Anonymous image)

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The decentralized international hacktivist collective Anonymous announced this week that it hacked into both the Russian central bank and a pension fund, launched a "printer attack," and is preparing to attack Russian physical infrastructure.

Since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, Anonymous has launched a cyber war that has consisted of hacking into Russian government and state-run media websites, industrial control systems, the Kremlin's website, and hundreds of surveillance cameras across Russia. A representative of the collective informed Taiwan News it hacked into the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation (PFR) on Tuesday (March 22).

According to the representative, Anonymous has "wiped" the database, server data, and backups for the fund in many regions of Russia. The regions affected include Moscow Oblast, Amur Oblast, Buryatia, Tuva Republic, Smolensk Oblast, Pskov Oblast, Kaliningrad Oblast, and Altai Republic.

The collective warned that the attacks on Russia will "continue as long as there are civilian casualties in Ukraine." As of publication, the PFR website is still offline.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4483904

This is so funny.

[adnj]

Putin’s war to wipe out 15 years of progress for Russian economy

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last month spurred a collapse of the ruble and threw global supply chains and commodities prices into chaos, while also sparking the mass departure of companies from the country. French automaker Renault SA is among the latest firms to pull out, announcing that it will halt operations at its Moscow plant and saying is considering the future of a longstanding Russian venture called AvtoVaz.



Even after the immediate hit to Russia’s economy, the economy will suffer for years to come from a so-called “brain drain” — the exodus of educated, middle class Russians with the financial means to leave the country — and from U.S. and EU export controls on technology, including microelectronics, which will hinder technological development in Russia for years, according to the IIF.

At the same time, “self-sanctioning” by foreign companies which no longer want to do business with Russia will lead to a weakening of important sectors of the Russian economy, the report said.

“The negative effect on medium- and long-term economic prospects could be even more important,” the IIF economists wrote.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2 ... an-economy

[sMASH]

birth of a new world order..

https://fb.watch/bYIUVifbHz/

https://fb.watch/bYI_jiRv-L/

[adnj]

EU signs US gas deal to curb reliance on Russia

25 March 2022

The US and the EU have announced a major deal on liquified natural gas, in an attempt to reduce Europe's reliance on Russian energy.

The agreement will see the US provide the EU with at least 15 billion additional cubic metres of the fuel - known as LNG - by the end of the year.

The White House said that greater energy efficiency can be immediately achieved through increasing the use of smart thermostats and heat pumps.

The EU said that reductions through energy savings in homes can replace 15.5 billion cubic metres this year and that accelerating wind and solar deployment can replace 20 billion cubic metres.

The EU's goal is to save 170 billion cubic metres by 2030 through energy efficiency and by using renewable energy.

That 170 billion on top of the planned 50 billion of additional US gas means Europe's reliance on Russian gas could be replaced by 2030.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60871601.amp

[Dizzy28]

The Ukrainian Army Has More Tanks Now Than When The War Began—Because It Keeps Capturing Them From Russia

Ukraine has lost at least 74 tanks—destroyed or captured—since Russia widened its war on the country starting the night of Feb. 23. But Ukraine has captured at least 117 Russian tanks, according to open-source-intelligence analysts who scrutinize photos and videos on social media.

In other words, the Ukrainian army might actually have more tanks now than a month ago—all without building a single brand-new tank or pulling some older vehicle out of storage. The Russians meanwhile have captured at least 37 Ukrainian tanks—a sum inadequate to compensate for the roughly 274 tanks it is believed to have lost to all causes.

The disparity in captured tanks speaks to Russia’s lack of preparation for a high-intensity war against a determined foe. But it also speaks to the advantages any defender possesses over any attacker. Russia must project forces into Ukraine scores or hundreds of miles, extending poorly-protected supply lines and risking front-line units running out of ammunition and fuel. Many of those tanks the Ukrainians have seized were just sitting there, out of gas, their crews having fled.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 ... e49dae7922

[VexXx Dogg]

Ukraine is their Afghanistan v2?
Putin might get Putout from the inside

[sMASH]

i dont know if putin has some ulterior strategy, but on face value, he doing nonsense.

usually, this strategy in starcraft is to get rid of ur weaker early game units, in order to free up space to build stronger late game units.
but this is real life, u dont have a unit number cap to work within.

[adnj]

Russia claims focus now on seizing eastern Ukraine, not Kyiv

Top Russian military officials said Friday the operation in Ukraine was entering a new phase focused on the "complete liberation" of the eastern Donbas region, claiming Russia's assault on cities like Kyiv was part of a strategy to distract Ukrainian forces.

Why it matters: Russia's advance has stalled across most of the country after four weeks of war. The public briefing, which was riddled with false statements, could signal a pivot away from what U.S. officials believed were Russia's original objectives of regime change and long-term control of Ukraine.

Russian forces have lost full control of Kherson, the first city to fall to Russia earlier this month, a senior U.S. defense official told reporters Friday.

Outside of Kyiv, a Ukrainian counteroffensive has repelled Russian forces by several miles and forced them to assume a "defensive crouch."

"Clearly, they overestimated their ability to take Kyiv. Frankly, they overestimated their ability to take any population center," the U.S. official said.

Only in the Donbas are Russian forces shifting the front lines in their favor.

The big picture: Putin launched his "special military operation" on Feb. 24 after failing to reach a political settlement on ending the low-level war in Donbas that began in 2014.

A Russian military official claimed Friday that the purpose of the full-scale invasion was to "tie down" Ukraine's forces and destroy enough military infrastructure to allow Russian-backed separatists to take full control of the territory they claim in the east.

The official did not rule out additional offensives on Ukrainian cities, but said the "liberation" of Donbas would be the main focus.

"The liberation of Mariupol continues," the official said, referring to one key city in Donbas where Russian strikes have destroyed 80% of all housing and killed hundreds of civilians, while leaving the others without heating, running water or sufficient food.

Between the lines: Vladimir Putin may be able to sell a seizure of all of Donbas as a victory at home, but it's no straightforward escape hatch.

Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, repeatedly told Axios' Barak Ravid in an interview that Ukraine will not make any territorial concessions in Donbas or Crimea to secure a peace deal.

And even if Putin decides to focus on a smaller chunk of Ukraine, the international sanctions triggered by his full-scale assault are unlikely to be lifted.

Meanwhile, the costs for Russia are climbing.

The Russian defense ministry updated the Russian death toll to 1,351 killed and 3,825 wounded.

A senior NATO official briefed reporters Thursday that between 7,000 and 15,000 Russian soldiers had actually been killed.

https://www.axios.com/russia-donbas-kyi ... 7a49b.html

[De Dragon]

NATO says 7,000 to 15,000 Russian troops dead in Ukraine

Mar 23, 2022 4:20 PM EDT

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — NATO estimated on Wednesday that 7,000 to 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in four weeks of war in Ukraine, where fierce fighting by the country’s fast-moving defenders has denied Moscow the lightning victory it sought.

By way of comparison, Russia lost about 15,000 troops over 10 years in Afghanistan.

A senior NATO military official said the alliance’s estimate was based on information from Ukrainian authorities, what Russia has released — intentionally or not — and intelligence gathered from open sources. The official spoke on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by NATO.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/nato ... in-ukraine

Wonder what russian sources say.

1300

[De Dragon]

Outnumbered five to one, Ukraine’s top guns fend off Russian fighter jets against the odds

During a month at war, Kyiv’s pilots have stymied Moscow’s attempt to establish air superiority despite being given little chance

22 March 2022 • 6:56pm



Out of Ukraine’s total fleet of about 100 combat aircraft at the start of the war, roughly a third were Su-27s Credit: AFP Photo/Ministry of Defence of Ukraine

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -invasion/

So why Biden fraid Russia?

Please tell me you're not serious?