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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby Mmoney607 » April 7th, 2024, 10:15 am

maj. tom wrote: ANSA McAL preferred bidder for Trincity Mall
... as liquidators continue to divest Home Construction Ltd’s assets

https://www.guardian.co.tt/business/ansa-mcal-preferred-bidder-for-trincity-mall-6.2.1969523.afe96e6bf0

ANSA McAL is the preferred bidder to acquire Trincity Mall.

Sunday Business understands that the local conglomerate emerged as the successful bidder for the Trincity Commercial Centre Ltd (TCCL), which includes Trincity Mall.

The Trincity Commercial Centre is part of the CL Financial (CLF) group, which is in liquidation.

ANSA McAL was informed in May 2023 by financial services firm EY, which is handling the transaction for Grant Thornton, that it was the preferred bidder.

The liquidators were granted approval by the High Court for the sale of the mall, which is located in Trincity in east Trinidad, in 2021. The shopping centre was only put on the market in September 2022.

In its 12th report to the High Court dated October 2023, the liquidators noted that in April 2023, it had received a total of four offers—two for the shares in TCCL, and two for Trincity Mall property assets.

Oh lord. We going to be hearing about this everyday until the next election

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Postby MaxPower » April 7th, 2024, 10:29 am

bluefete wrote:Strategic move by the 1%.

They now control malls in West, East, South Trinidad and Tobago.


blues,

All 1% moves are Strategic.

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby K74T » April 7th, 2024, 10:58 am

ed360123 wrote:Allyuh think they going for Long Circular too?
Hopefully

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby The_Honourable » April 7th, 2024, 11:24 am

bluefete wrote:1% cashing in.

So they neutralised Duprey so that the Sabgas could take over.

Makes perfect sense to me.


How exactly they neutralized duprey?

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby eliteauto » April 7th, 2024, 6:04 pm

Curious as to whether they're going to retain TM as a retail spot. The 1% recently lost on buying a location close to the Carib factory with it going to a successful Arima family instead, not sure of how successful ANSA has been in retail rentals and TM has competition from EastGates which albeit significantly smaller has a lot of popular franchise stores

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby K74T » April 7th, 2024, 6:54 pm

eliteauto wrote:The 1% recently lost on buying a location close to the Carib factory with it going to a successful Arima family instead


The cleared area next to Food Basket?

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby bluefete » April 7th, 2024, 7:25 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
bluefete wrote:1% cashing in.

So they neutralised Duprey so that the Sabgas could take over.

Makes perfect sense to me.


How exactly they neutralized duprey?


Ask Zoom:

But long story short- Duprey was a known political supporter of the UNC waaayyyyyyy back in the day (1995-2002). Against all advice, he used to appear on the UNC political platforms as a financier.

Meanwhile the 1% (Sagba et al) used to spread their contributions equally between the PNM and UNC.

Manning and company used to real watch him with a cokey eye because Duprey's Chief Man was Andre Monteil - a known PNM supporter and PNM Treasurer.

When Manning was given the elections in 2002 by Robinson, he had it in for Duprey because the 1% were not happy. It took him 7 years but when the perfect storm came in 2008-2009, he moved to terminate Duprey's holdings.

Now, the government could have moved differently to save CL Financial as other governments did with companies in their countries but noooooooo, Manning had to get his revenge,

And his acolyte Rowley is moving the same way - although he will tell you the courts are handing the matter.

Remember Rowley's mantra - the rich must get richer. That is exactly how his policies are working out.

End result is what we see today. Well planned out from 15 years ago.
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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby bluefete » April 7th, 2024, 7:27 pm

K74T wrote:
eliteauto wrote:The 1% recently lost on buying a location close to the Carib factory with it going to a successful Arima family instead


The cleared area next to Food Basket?


That self. And that Arima family got people damn vex when they destroyed the perfectly good 100 year old samaan tree that was at the edge of the bus route after they cleared the land.

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby K74T » August 24th, 2024, 3:36 pm

Lawrence Duprey is dead

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby K74T » August 24th, 2024, 3:38 pm

BUSINESSMAN Lawrence Duprey has died, several sources close to him have confirmed to the Express.

Duprey was best known for his role as the former executive chairman of CL Financial and director at CLICO.

In 2009, the government initiated a multi-billion-dollar bailout of CLICO.

We are gathering more details on the passing of a prominent businessman and will update this story as additional information becomes available.

https://trinidadexpress.com/business/la ... 9b854.html

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby The_Honourable » August 26th, 2024, 10:40 am

You swear duprey was a good boy after reading some of what the media publish

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby The_Honourable » September 18th, 2024, 3:15 am

Clico repaid final $1B to Govt last year

Finance Minister Colm Imbert said yesterday that Clico addressed its obligation to repay its remaining liability of $1 billion to the Government in 2023, by selling all of its shareholding in Methanol Holdings International Ltd (MHIL) .

Clico received a multibillion dollar bailout in 2009, which eventually totalled over $18 billion.

In the Senate yesterday, Opposition Senator Wade Mark posed the question, "Can the minister provide the details and status of the sale of Clico's 56.53 per cent shareholding in MHIL to the Proman Group in late December, 2023?".

In response the Finance Minister said, "The information and answer to this question has been in the public domain for almost one year, and the matter has already been extensively addressed inside and outside of the Parliament. It is therefore curious that Senator Mark continues to beat this dead horse. The facts already in the public domain are as follows—as of April 2023, Clico's remaining liability to the government for the Clico bailout was $1 billion.

"In addition, Clico had a statutory obligation under the Insurance Act 2018 to reduce its interest in MHIL to less than 20 per cent. In July of 2023 the other shareholder in MHIL, Consolidated Energy, approached Clico to acquire the full 56.53 per cent of Clico's interest in MHIL. A sale price of US$337 million for the shares was agreed based on a valuation done by an independent and reputable global valuation consultant, Charles Rivers Associates, plus an additional US$10 million as Clico's share of dividends for 2023. All issues were thus satisfactorily addressed: Clico's satisfaction of its obligation under the Insurance Act 2018, with respect to its shareholding in MHIL being reduced to less than 20 per cent; and Clico's obligation to repay the government the $1 billion that was still owed in 2023."

The opposition senator then followed up his question with an inquiry, "When did the Government receive the outstanding $1 billion owed by Clico to the taxpayers of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago to settle its final outstanding debt obligations to the citizenry?"

To which the Minister replied, "In 2023."

When the opposition senator asked for a specific month that the debt was settled, Minister Imbert responded, "When I come to this place, I have to expect strange questions from Senator Mark. That was not part of the question. All Senator Mark complained about was the sale of MHIL shares by Clico. He said nothing about any debt owed by Clico to the government. Then it is therefore absurd to expect you to walk with that date."

On December 27, 2023 the Trinidad Guardian reported that Clico sold its entire 56.53 per cent stake in MHIL, which is located in Oman, to the Switzerland-based Proman Group on December 22, 2023 for the sum of US$347 million ($2.35 billion).

In its 2023 audited financials, Clico reported that the sale of the subsidiary MHIL was completed on December 22, 2023. Partly as a result of the sale of MHIL, Clico reported $3.18 billion in accummulated surplus as at December 31, 2023. The 2023 financials also disclose that the insurance company recorded $2.30 billion in profit attributable to the owners of the company. Clico is 49 per cent owned by Corporation Sole, who holds assets on behalf of the ppoulation. Its other major shareholder is CL Financial, which is in liquidation, with 51 per cent.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/business/cli ... eedf804efb

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby zoom rader » September 18th, 2024, 5:58 am

1billion paid back to Citizens but Where is the money?

1% pockets?
Rowlee & Impsberts housing projects?

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby The_Honourable » October 1st, 2024, 2:13 pm

Govt to divest 49% stake in CLICO

THE Government intends to sell its 49% shareholding in Colonial Life Insurance Company (CLICO), Minister of Finance Colm Imbert has announced, revealing that approximately $13 billion is still owed for the bailout of CL Financial.

Imbert made the statement while announcing five “special projects” during his presentation of the 2025 national budget titled “Steadfast and Resolute: Forging Pathways to Prosperity” in the Parliament yesterday.

“The Government intends to sell its 49% shareholding in Colonial Life Insurance Company (CLICO). CLICO is no longer considered to be of strategic importance to the Government and its divestment will earn several billion dollars in revenue for the Government, to see us through the financial difficulties of the next few years,” Imbert said.

“In this regard, I have noted a false narrative circulating that the Government has been repaid all that it is due for the 2009/2010 CLICO bailout. This is entirely untrue, since the CLICO bailout involved not only the insurance company, but it also involved the bailout of CL Financial and its subsidiaries, as well as companies like CLICO Investment Bank, British American Insurance and so on. Far from being fully repaid, the Government is still owed over at least a further $13 billion in taxpayers’ funds injected into CL Financial and the other related companies. I wanted to make that clear, because I have seen a narrative that we have been fully repaid for the CLICO bailout; it is not true. We are still owed $13 billion for the bailout of CL Financial,” he said.

Contacted for comment last night, Peter Permell, head of the CLICO Policyholders Group, said he is reviewing Imbert’s statement and its implications, and will respond accordingly.

https://trinidadexpress.com/business/lo ... a5fa4.html

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby zoom rader » October 1st, 2024, 2:42 pm

^^^1% buy in program using ur NIS

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby K74T » April 13th, 2025, 8:39 am

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Trincity Commercial Centre, which includes Trincity Mall, has been sold for $505 million. The deal was finalised last week, with a consortium of real estate developers—Johnny Aboud, Anthony Rahael, and contractors KallCo and Fides Ltd—securing the property.

Read more:
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/trincity-mall-sold-for-505m-6.2.2280752.de21974ba1

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby hover11 » May 15th, 2025, 5:35 pm

Kamla: Clico Fiasco will be laid in parliament. The public will know the entire story.

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby hover11 » May 17th, 2025, 2:51 pm

FORMER finance minister Karen Nunez-Tesheira has welcomed government’s decision to lay the Commission of Enquiry (CoE) into the Colonial Life Insurance Company (Clico) collapse in the Parliament in the coming months.

At a post-cabinet news conference at the Red House, Port of Spain on May 15, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar announced government will lay the report of the Clico CoE report in the Parliament.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16ZMN1mUPg/

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby The_Honourable » May 17th, 2025, 3:11 pm

That COE report was received by Rowley and sent to the DPP since 2016. He didn't make it public because the DPP requested him not to do so as to allow for criminal probes to be conducted. Well up to now the DPP did nothing, and if he did it resulted in no arrests.

Rowley said that he was thinking about making the report public since 2023, nothing happened.

Lawrence Duprey had time dead with CL financial being gutted by liquidators.

Lay the report and done.

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Re: OFFICIAL CLICO THREAD

Postby The_Honourable » June 26th, 2025, 8:54 pm

CLF SHAREHOLDERS TO TANCOO: FIRE LIQUIDATOR, STOP 'FIRE SALE' OF TRINCITY MALL
...And Make The Indigenous Company Great Again By Returning It To Rightful Shareholders

By SIEWDATH PERSAD - Journalist & Excutive Producer of UnwindTT

PORT OF SPAIN, TRINIDAD (June 26, 2025): FINANCE Minister Davendranath Tancoo is being called upon to immediately intervene to stop the impending "fire sale" of Trincity Mall, Tru Valu Supermarket chain and other prime CL Financial (CLF) assets by liquidator Grant Thornton.

A group of CLF shareholders, who have requested anonymity, are also appealing to Tancoo to "remove CL Financial (CLF) liquidator Grant Thornton and revert to the Shareholders Agreement."

The Cabinet approved Shareholders Agreement was formulated under the People's Partnership government by then Finance Minister Larry Howai following collaboration with the main shareholders in 2015. Howai was yesterday (June 25) appointed as Governor of the Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago (CBTT).

CLF was tossed into liquidation by former PNM Finance Minister Colm Imbert in 2017, with court-appointed joint liquidators given eight months to hasten the task of paying off creditors while protecting the interest of shareholders and assets of the company and its subsidiaries.

A spokesperson for the CLF shareholders group told UNWIND TT: "The liquidators were given eight months to do a job. This has been stretched into eight years with the liquidators feasting on fees, commissions, salaries and perks, while incurring other significant costs (legal fees, consultancy fees etc) to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. And a significant portion this has to be paid in scarce US currency.

"All this money could have instead been directed towards payment to reduce the debt balance. This ill-advised insane solution was Imbert's bright idea to deal with repayment of the CLF/CLICO bailout debt to the government."

The bailout was instituted in 2009 under the administration of then Prime Minister Patrick Manning, in the wake of the 2008 global finance crisis.

Grant Thornton's liquidator Mark Byers has travelled first class from the Bahamas to Trinidad earlier this week and is being accomodated in fine style at CLF's expense, for the duration of his stay in the country to execute the "fire sale" of the Trincity Mall Property, stated the spokesperson for the CLF shareholder group.

The group is urging Tancoo "to carefully scrutinize the dissipation of its Trincity Mall Property asset via the impending fire sale to a local consortium comprising a clip of PNM financiers, to ensure that shareholders are not being short-changed or robbed of value to the tune of $225 million."

CLF is the parent company for HCL, which owns the Trincity Mall Property.

The Trincity Mall Property, which comprised the mall buildings and 53 acres of surrounding lands, were valued at $730 million by Terra Caribbean Limited in 2020. A subsequent valuation by Linden Scott & Assiciates coughed up a figure $620 million as at December 2023, which raised lots of eyebrows.

The shareholders are contending that $620 million must have been the valuation for the mall buildings alone, which does not include the vast surrounding 53-acre spread of prime lands. They are questioning how this prime property could have lost value to the tune of a whopping $110 million less than the earlier Terra Caribbean valuation of $730 million in five years under the handling of the liquidator.

Even worse is that the liquidator is now rushing to dispose of the entire property for $505 million offered by the consortium, which represents a further erosion of value amounting to $225 million ($730 million discounted to $505 million).

It is further understood that an initial approach was made to RBC Limited (Royal Bank) for a loan to finance the mall/estate purchase transaction. However, upon examination of all documentations and pursuant to its own due diligence, RBC reportedly declined to involve itself in that deal. It therefore turned down the loan application. The bank opted to safeguard against reputational damage associated with facilitating a transaction that had loads of question marks written all over it.

The CLF shareholders group said they have knowledge that the consortium recently approached state-controlled First Citizens Bank (FCB) for a loan to facilitate the mall property purchase. They now want FCB Chairman Anthony Smart and the bank's board of directors to also scrutinize all details and bank personnel associated with underwriting any loan to be processed for the impending hugely discounted purchase of the Trincity Mall property.

They said the management of HCL, which has an existing well serviced mortgage on the said mall with FCB, had approached the bank to renegotiate the above, at the market rate of interest being charged by the bank, but was rejected. The CLF shareholders said they were reliably informed that the consortium approached the very same FCB which hastily facilitated processing of a loan for purchase of the said Trincity Mall Property at a significantly lower interest rate than that being charged on the HCL mortgage.

"This shows favouritism by the state controlled bank and brings into question the longstanding relationship between HCL and FCB," a spokesperson for the CLF shareholders group said.

According to the spokesperson, "the question now is who is really benefitting from the sale of the Trincity Mall Property which has been discounted by a whopping $225 million? The only beneficiary of this deal are: 1. the buyer who is getting a steal of a deal; 2. the liquidator who is getting a significant commission on the sale as well as negotiation fees; 3. the lawyers on both sides who are engaged with doing the deal; and 4. consultants.

"This is clearly a case of liquidator abuse of shareholder value and leeching off CL financial for the past eight years. The shareholders view is that enough is enough. The new Prime Minister and Cabinet must put a stop to this insanity now and rescue CLF from the bondage of the liquidator and Imbert's stroke of madness.

"It is high time to put right what amounts to patent rape of the CLF assets facilitated by the previous government. The shareholders are willing to work with the new government to restore CLF and bring back the entrepreneurial benefit with a new gereration of this group primed and poised to contribute to the benefit and growth of the Trinidad and Tobago economy."

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