TriniTuner.com  |  Latest Event:  

Forums

Day Traders - Forex Market

this is how we do it.......

Moderator: 3ne2nr Mods

User avatar
MG Man
2NRholic
Posts: 23796
Joined: May 1st, 2003, 1:31 pm
Location: between cinco leg

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby MG Man » January 20th, 2015, 11:48 am

I honestly don't know....I've always just pulled out funds ever so often so my balance with them is jut enough to keep trading with...I suspect if they do close doors, we screwed with whatever funds are left in our accounts

User avatar
Skanky
I LUV THIS PLACE
Posts: 916
Joined: February 8th, 2005, 12:11 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Skanky » January 20th, 2015, 12:31 pm

Same as MG.I try to maintain an account size based on the contract size I am trading.If I go to think about that all the time I will never sleep or trade.
Of course if anything does happen I will do my utmost to retrieve my funds.

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Redman » January 20th, 2015, 1:10 pm

Well fellas...I might sound like an old man...but it's your responsibility.

Find out.

Check the fine print on the new account docs..

Check the rules on the re hypothecation of assets.

Maybe the cheapest trading platform is cheap for a reason.

Find where the risk lies...cuz it has to lie somewhere...

User avatar
MG Man
2NRholic
Posts: 23796
Joined: May 1st, 2003, 1:31 pm
Location: between cinco leg

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby MG Man » January 20th, 2015, 1:26 pm

yup
The risk is real
If FXCM crashes, I'll just go somewhere else....I do like their trading platform tho

ad man
Street 2NR
Posts: 88
Joined: February 13th, 2009, 1:02 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby ad man » March 4th, 2015, 1:15 pm

ok so i opened a demo account last week with $100,000.00 now the amount is at $ 410,505.00.

it sounds good but i wonder if trading a live account will be so successful. i have seen people try the exact strategies on live as on demo and blow their accounts in record time!!!.....

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Redman » March 4th, 2015, 2:26 pm

ad man
read up on the metal stresses of having money at risk.
the difference between real trading an paper (outside of slippage ) is your mental disposition when things are good bad and ugly

ad man
Street 2NR
Posts: 88
Joined: February 13th, 2009, 1:02 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby ad man » March 4th, 2015, 3:21 pm

Beleive me i know all about it. i blew up an account already.... the thing is the exact strategy i used used to consistently build up a demo account i used on the live market...weird.....

User avatar
MG Man
2NRholic
Posts: 23796
Joined: May 1st, 2003, 1:31 pm
Location: between cinco leg

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby MG Man » March 4th, 2015, 5:34 pm

Demo trading is de devil. I was a mental wreck when I went live and lost

User avatar
Lance
punchin NOS
Posts: 2736
Joined: June 21st, 2005, 7:49 am
Location: Arima<->Leeds

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Lance » March 4th, 2015, 5:48 pm

Alls well when you're playing with Monopoly money

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Redman » March 4th, 2015, 7:35 pm

ad man wrote:Beleive me i know all about it. i blew up an account already.... the thing is the exact strategy i used used to consistently build up a demo account i used on the live market...weird.....

If the system is the exact match...then either you or the market changed.

Those are the variables

User avatar
MG Man
2NRholic
Posts: 23796
Joined: May 1st, 2003, 1:31 pm
Location: between cinco leg

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby MG Man » March 5th, 2015, 8:40 am

no strategy works all the time
there's a reason forex brokers have that massive disclaimer statement, and also why we ALWAYS tell people, DO NOT trade with money you cannot afford to lose

ad man
Street 2NR
Posts: 88
Joined: February 13th, 2009, 1:02 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby ad man » March 5th, 2015, 9:17 am

nevertheless i think im ready to try live again.... i goin small this time, i'll open a micro account and build from there.... hopefully

my broker is hotforex

User avatar
MG Man
2NRholic
Posts: 23796
Joined: May 1st, 2003, 1:31 pm
Location: between cinco leg

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby MG Man » March 5th, 2015, 10:31 am

good luck man, and welcome to the madness
Just keep a VERY close eye on any european currency....they still pretty volatile

ad man
Street 2NR
Posts: 88
Joined: February 13th, 2009, 1:02 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby ad man » March 5th, 2015, 1:36 pm

still on demo..

eur usd made a perfect bounce off of the daily pivot point where i entered a bearish position this morning around 10am. trade went on straight through Support 1 down to support 2 which net me 58 pips...

ad man
Street 2NR
Posts: 88
Joined: February 13th, 2009, 1:02 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby ad man » March 6th, 2015, 11:19 am

So after the news release this morning eur usd took another dive south of the pivot. Price broke through support 1 and support 2 where i entered bearish and took profit at support 3 for 42 pips...

User avatar
Pablo660
Chronic TriniTuner
Posts: 679
Joined: December 10th, 2003, 9:49 am
Location: Gasp

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Pablo660 » July 13th, 2015, 8:13 am

Hi
I'm looking to try this also, I'm home all the time and have lots of time.

Is the initial start up hard?im still reading a lot but looking to jump in very small, because I will never learn unless I'm actually in I believe.
Any tips on startup would be great but I understand it's a lot of trending and being aware of world news
I was watching a video on a traders life called Viper on the tube and it looks like something I can try, he has some good tips but it would be nice to know if we locals can do the same

User avatar
Pablo660
Chronic TriniTuner
Posts: 679
Joined: December 10th, 2003, 9:49 am
Location: Gasp

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Pablo660 » July 13th, 2015, 8:18 am

A question I have is, does having a high Internet speed make a difference and multiple PCs with monitors for specific trading markets or can I start on a basic laptop n move up
Initial capital investment can be a factor.
Thanks

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Redman » July 13th, 2015, 4:30 pm

no

once your system of trading doesn't require minute by minute info.

Many technical systems use open close data to remain constant.


And many traders advocate not making decisions while the markets are open..within reason.

User avatar
scotty_buttons
Riding on 18's
Posts: 1838
Joined: October 23rd, 2005, 4:21 pm
Location: Point Of No Return
Contact:

Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby scotty_buttons » August 24th, 2015, 6:32 pm

How's the trading coming along MG?
Looking to start trading preferably with stocks first as my schedule is pretty busy during the day and perhaps forex later on.. Currently paper trading but would want to open an account with real money soon. How do I go about opening an account and what/who are the options (in Trinidad)
Is there really a 30% taxation on profits for non US traders ?

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Redman » August 24th, 2015, 7:14 pm

No tax on capital gains once you sign a W8BEN.
This must be done every calendar year.

You will Taxed on interest and dividends...as this is deemed to be income

User avatar
Pablo660
Chronic TriniTuner
Posts: 679
Joined: December 10th, 2003, 9:49 am
Location: Gasp

Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Pablo660 » December 21st, 2016, 8:56 am

Hi
Just updating chat with some questions ;
What's a good software now?

I was thinking to just try to make a small income, 100-300 tt a day in (2-4 hrs/ day). Is this achievable?

How easy it to put in and take out money ?

Any advice on the whole.
Thanks

Lol now reading back
I real procrastinating on this yes

User avatar
Skanky
I LUV THIS PLACE
Posts: 916
Joined: February 8th, 2005, 12:11 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Skanky » December 21st, 2016, 11:25 am

Pablo660 wrote:Hi
Just updating chat with some questions ;
What's a good software now?
There are lots of demos out there.Download one and see which ones you like.Would recommend Oanda and FXCM.

I was thinking to just try to make a small income, 100-300 tt a day in (2-4 hrs/ day). Is this achievable?
Yes it is achievable.No it's not realistic.You can't tell the market you want to get paid everyday.You have to take what the market will give you on any given day/week/month.Some days you may make money but there will be losses.The size of your losses is all you have control over.


How easy it to put in and take out money ?
Deposit could be with cc or wire transfer and withdrawl could be with wire,cheque,paypal(depending).

Any advice on the whole.
There is a stat that says 95% of traders fail.What makes you think you can beat other traders who have higher i.qs nanosecond technology,inside information,more resources and millions and billions of funds available to them at this zero sum game?As a retail trader you have lots of advantages but lots of disadvantages as well.Trading a profitable method most times is simple but definitely not easy.It takes a doctor 3-5 years at University then another 3-5 years to specialize then they begin to make any real money.Trading is just like any other profession,you have to do the hard yards but unlike other professions nobody is going to show you how to trade profitably.Those who know don't say and those who say don't know.How committed are you and how hard are you willing to work are questions you have to ask yourself before you start down this road.Good luck.
Thanks

Lol now reading back
I real procrastinating on this yes

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Redman » December 21st, 2016, 2:41 pm

Skanky just posted the best advice you can get.

this is a big boys game...and you need to get proficient in which ever trading system that works for you.

Keep your losses small.

User avatar
MG Man
2NRholic
Posts: 23796
Joined: May 1st, 2003, 1:31 pm
Location: between cinco leg

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby MG Man » December 22nd, 2016, 7:42 am

getting greedy / cocky after you score a few good trades is a real mind killer
the other trap is jumping right back in after you lose, trying to make it back quickly....that almost always becomes a downward financial spiral
Trading emotionally is the worst thing you can do
If you make a few profitable trades, it's NO indication of future gains...it just means you were lucky or your strategy for THAT specific scenario played out in your favour

User avatar
Pablo660
Chronic TriniTuner
Posts: 679
Joined: December 10th, 2003, 9:49 am
Location: Gasp

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Pablo660 » December 22nd, 2016, 12:22 pm

So trading and emotions don't mix
It's like gambling ( I don't gamble) you have to potential to get roped in,

Isn't it about learning trends and predicting charts vs news to see where currency may go?

What's the minimum you can go in with e.g. $1400 tt or 200 usd ?

Skanky from East ? We worked together? Feedgrow lol

Thanks

User avatar
Miktay
Shifting into 6th
Posts: 2088
Joined: July 30th, 2013, 1:13 am

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Miktay » December 22nd, 2016, 12:48 pm

Interesting thread. Does anyone 'trade' local TTSE equities?

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Redman » December 22nd, 2016, 1:11 pm

Miktay wrote:Interesting thread. Does anyone 'trade' local TTSE equities?


Sure-when I find paint drying a little to fast paced.

The lack of liquidity makes the price movements hard to chart-you can have demand for a stock and zero volume....or plenty volume with no news cuz a pension fund crossing stock.

So trading remains a buy and wait scene.

User avatar
Miktay
Shifting into 6th
Posts: 2088
Joined: July 30th, 2013, 1:13 am

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Miktay » December 22nd, 2016, 3:41 pm

Thanks Redz...i thought so...

User avatar
MG Man
2NRholic
Posts: 23796
Joined: May 1st, 2003, 1:31 pm
Location: between cinco leg

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby MG Man » December 22nd, 2016, 4:01 pm

Pablo660 wrote:So trading and emotions don't mix
It's like gambling ( I don't gamble) you have to potential to get roped in,

Isn't it about learning trends and predicting charts vs news to see where currency may go?
yes but it's really more about making educated guesses.....you can look at trends all you want, but when you jump into a trade and the market turns against you, stops you out, and then retraces to complete the predicted move, you will be left scratching your head if you're not prepared for that kind of thing :lol: :lol: :lol:

What's the minimum you can go in with e.g. $1400 tt or 200 usd ?

Skanky from East ? We worked together? Feedgrow lol

Thanks

User avatar
Skanky
I LUV THIS PLACE
Posts: 916
Joined: February 8th, 2005, 12:11 pm

Re: Day Traders - Forex Market

Postby Skanky » December 22nd, 2016, 6:27 pm

Pablo660 wrote:So trading and emotions don't mix
Emotion has no place in profitable trading.If you get emotional chances are you will make mistakes.Profitable trading is about executing your plan despite emotions, flawlessly over a long enough period that you can profit from your edge in the market.
It's like gambling ( I don't gamble) you have to potential to get roped in,
Whether you think it's gambling and other moral dilemmas are issues you will have to deal with on your own.

Isn't it about learning trends and predicting charts vs news to see where currency may go?
Predicting has no place in profitable trading.It's a mistake a lot of traders make thinking they have to predict the future price movement.If you or anyone can predict the future with a high level of certainty there are bigger things you should be doing with your life than trading.
Of course there are traders who are large enough to move markets and whose goal is to move markets enough to profit from their positions.As an example if you think OPEC deals and supply and demand are responsible for the prices of oil,your road to profitability will be that much steeper and rougher.
Trading is about taking your signals repeatedly,dealing psychologically with losses and having the patience to get to and maximize the winners.


Skanky from East ? We worked together? Feedgrow lol
Lots of people get involved with trading because they see the glorious lifestyle portrayed on tv and movies. Profitable trading as I know it is nothing like that.I get up at 0230 and trade till 1300 Monday to Friday.Trading is also a very solitary profession.You alone run your trading business.Working 12 hour shifts or even 24,36 or 48 like we used to is a piece of cake compared cause when you off shift you off and you get paid notwithstanding.In trading you get paid for your efforts and forex trading is a 24 hour job from Sunday evening to Friday evening.In the same way you can't expect to read a book over the weekend and then perform brain surgery Monday morning,you can't expect to do some course online or read a book or get a tip and think you're a pro.You have to do the hard work.

Good luck



Thanks

Advertisement

Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Dizzy28, Google [Bot] and 113 guests