Chopper Chat Thread

speedbird777 · Postby **speedbird777** » November 27th, 2010, 1:10 am

how do you mean atc did not know what the traffic was?
i was not around so i dunno... but i know there are some controllers that give others a bad name... so it could very well be that atc personel was just casual as well as it could be differently..
it could be that they didnt know what exactly it was, but our flight strips shows the type of acft... eg B738 or B744, A343, A321, B412, so they could have given traffic is... a sierra 76 .. if u ketch my drift..
i also know pilots worse enemies are controllers... am i wrong?

Type Rated · Postby **Type Rated** » November 27th, 2010, 1:11 am

Speedbird... I understand what you are saying and you are pretty much correct. Technically once we are out of the tower control we are see and avoid traffic. This is why the outbound and inbound altitudes and the Arena Dam crossing was set up. I wasn't there that day either but if anyone got "blown out"........... tempers flaring. unfortunate but when u get a TCAS alert and then you see that thing........you tend to think...........hmmm I should have worn my brown pants today!

Also if it was Brazilian Navy.... they tend to try to talk as little as possible (language barrier) so I'm prettty sure they weren't talking on 130.1 to advise of their position. I had a run in with a Brazilian Lynx a couple years back. before we had TCAS in the aircraft and that was the cause.

speedbird777 · Postby **speedbird777** » November 27th, 2010, 1:27 am

military ops are also very weird ops.. in terms of giving traffic info and stuff... but once there is traffic on the east coast...even overflying traffic from ttcp - guyana at low altitutes.. we tell them to contact 130.1 and remain a listening watch for traffic.. so i'm not sure what took place... i know there has been a dash 8 flying out there too... nobody had any probs with that dash 8?
personally for me i hate to hear TCAS... twr we have traffic on TCAS... we just got a TCAS advisory... for me TCAS = take ass (in jail)...say take ass 10 times and tell me what you come up with

hot blue · Postby **hot blue** » November 27th, 2010, 10:30 am

ROFLMAO!!!!

triniboy92 · Postby **triniboy92** » November 27th, 2010, 11:06 am

speedbird777 wrote:military ops are also very weird ops.. in terms of giving traffic info and stuff... but once there is traffic on the east coast...even overflying traffic from ttcp - guyana at low altitutes.. we tell them to contact 130.1 and remain a listening watch for traffic.. so i'm not sure what took place... i know there has been a dash 8 flying out there too... nobody had any probs with that dash 8?
personally for me i hate to hear TCAS... twr we have traffic on TCAS... we just got a TCAS advisory... for me TCAS = take ass (in jail)...say take ass 10 times and tell me what you come up with

the dash 8 is the netherlands coast guard 082...bristow and national also spoke about the dash 8

hot blue · Postby **hot blue** » November 27th, 2010, 2:41 pm

i didn't hear anything about the dash-8... why is the netherlands CG in the area? Going Suriname or Aruba?

triniboy92 · Postby **triniboy92** » November 27th, 2010, 5:39 pm

not sure...it was here for a while though..

speedbird777 · Postby **speedbird777** » November 27th, 2010, 7:47 pm

the dash 8 came from curacao i think... i'm not sure...
only heard about that chopper here.. seems like i just out of what takes place in piarco.. prefer the area control centre to the twr.... less TCAS transmissions out there

lexx · Postby **lexx** » November 27th, 2010, 11:45 pm

speedbird777 wrote:military ops are also very weird ops.. in terms of giving traffic info and stuff... but once there is traffic on the east coast...even overflying traffic from ttcp - guyana at low altitutes.. we tell them to contact 130.1 and remain a listening watch for traffic.. so i'm not sure what took place... i know there has been a dash 8 flying out there too... nobody had any probs with that dash 8?
personally for me i hate to hear TCAS... twr we have traffic on TCAS... we just got a TCAS advisory... for me TCAS = take ass (in jail)...say take ass 10 times and tell me what you come up with

I had a close call with that dash 8 on tuesday ... he came out from behind us, flying level at 1000 feet, he passed about 200 feet under us while we where descending to land in the angostura field... both of us were heading easterly... he was not on galeota's frequency so i switched to ttcp and asked them if they knew anything about him and only then i got to know about the traffic... tower blow him out and tell him to switch to 130.1... lol... scary but funny...

idk... maybe they are the ones looking for the man who fell off the ship some 200 miles east of galeota on sunday.... to me he was heading in that direction...

triniboy92 · Postby **triniboy92** » November 28th, 2010, 10:27 am

lexx wrote:
speedbird777 wrote:military ops are also very weird ops.. in terms of giving traffic info and stuff... but once there is traffic on the east coast...even overflying traffic from ttcp - guyana at low altitutes.. we tell them to contact 130.1 and remain a listening watch for traffic.. so i'm not sure what took place... i know there has been a dash 8 flying out there too... nobody had any probs with that dash 8?
personally for me i hate to hear TCAS... twr we have traffic on TCAS... we just got a TCAS advisory... for me TCAS = take ass (in jail)...say take ass 10 times and tell me what you come up with

I had a close call with that dash 8 on tuesday ... he came out from behind us, flying level at 1000 feet, he passed about 200 feet under us while we where descending to land in the angostura field... both of us were heading easterly... he was not on galeota's frequency so i switched to ttcp and asked them if they knew anything about him and only then i got to know about the traffic... tower blow him out and tell him to switch to 130.1... lol... scary but funny...

idk... maybe they are the ones looking for the man who fell off the ship some 200 miles east of galeota on sunday.... to me he was heading in that direction...

these foreign military crafts like to play "hero" LOL
who u fly with lexx?

triniboy92 · Postby **triniboy92** » November 28th, 2010, 10:40 am

hot blue · Postby **hot blue** » November 28th, 2010, 10:55 am

lexx wrote:
idk... maybe they are the ones looking for the man who fell off the ship some 200 miles east of galeota on sunday.... to me he was heading in that direction...

it's possible! When I heard about that I couldn't help but wonder what they were doing 200 miles east of galeota. What's the 76 range lexx? cause the 412 is so slow, the range with max fuel(std tanks) is about 330NM @ 120kts. We couldn't even get to the site if we left from galeota... much less come back!

lexx · Postby **lexx** » November 28th, 2010, 11:27 am

^^ with max fuel at 140kts you'll get about 350nm... with aux tank you'll get about 540nm... that would be just enought to reach there pick him up and come back if we had an exact gps position to work with... but to go out there and look for him and then winch him out of the water hovering at high power will suck fuel... if we coulda get fuel on the rigs it would not have been a problem... oh well

speedbird777 · Postby **speedbird777** » November 28th, 2010, 11:44 am

a man fall off a ship 200nm east of galeota? how a dash 8 gonna pick him up?

lexx · Postby **lexx** » November 28th, 2010, 11:58 am

speedbird777 wrote:a man fall off a ship 200nm east of galeota? how a dash 8 gonna pick him up?

If that man still alive being lost at sea since last sunday i will be a miracle... I'm guessing that they would be looking for the body... once they see it they will probably write down the gps position and give it to our coast guard so they can use a boat to pick it up... But the weather was crappy to look for something in the water for half of last week... coulda hardly see a rig... much less for a man in the water...

Type Rated · Postby **Type Rated** » November 28th, 2010, 12:29 pm

See that nice big Radome under the belly of the dash. Thats how they'd see him. Didin hear about that but makes a bit more sense now. Got the Hawk story last night from a nat'l pilot who was present the incident with the Hawk occured Offshorre in the vicinty of the Cassia and Banyan. The 412 was comming off the Cassia the 76 off the Banyan. One of the guys in the 76 said they observed a black aircraft doing "aerobatic" manouvers in close proximity. eventually the aircraft descended to 50' above the water and continued eastward. He was not talking to Gal, when bristow inquired from piarco, piarco did not give them the traffic advisory. So they had the aircraft on TCAS not a TCAS alert.

triniboy92 · Postby **triniboy92** » November 28th, 2010, 1:07 pm

speedbird777 wrote:a man fall off a ship 200nm east of galeota? how a dash 8 gonna pick him up?

LOL

triniboy92 · Postby **triniboy92** » November 28th, 2010, 1:09 pm

Type Rated wrote:See that nice big Radome under the belly of the dash. Thats how they'd see him. Didin hear about that but makes a bit more sense now. Got the Hawk story last night from a nat'l pilot who was present the incident with the Hawk occured Offshorre in the vicinty of the Cassia and Banyan. The 412 was comming off the Cassia the 76 off the Banyan. One of the guys in the 76 said they observed a black aircraft doing "aerobatic" manouvers in close proximity. eventually the aircraft descended to 50' above the water and continued eastward. He was not talking to Gal, when bristow inquired from piarco, piarco did not give them the traffic advisory. So they had the aircraft on TCAS not a TCAS alert.

aerobatic maneuvers yes
well now we have what really went on out there

hot blue · Postby **hot blue** » November 28th, 2010, 3:01 pm

lol... o my

speedbird777 · Postby **speedbird777** » November 29th, 2010, 2:32 am

well i know for the dash 8 they just said they operating either 60 or 120nm east of the coast 1000ft... dunno about the hawk.. if was the same with the hawk then that's for galeota ppl not us.. from the time they cross the coast we lose comms with them... it's like any heli that cross the coast they change to galeota... but yeah i wasnt around so me na know... d hawk was doin his own thing.. just my guess

triniboy92 · Postby **triniboy92** » November 29th, 2010, 6:33 pm

folks there's another brazilian air force craft in our waters
heard it today
brazilian air force 2583 (embraer 145)
anyone know why its here??

speedbird777 · Postby **speedbird777** » November 29th, 2010, 6:57 pm

prob for the same mission?

mrtrini45 · Postby **mrtrini45** » March 23rd, 2011, 7:29 pm

New S76 9Y-NCN was flying around this eveining

Postby **NorStar2K** » March 23rd, 2011, 11:09 pm

bhisham45 wrote:New S76 9Y-NCN was flying around this eveining

New S76C++ 9Y-NCN was flying around this evening. (fixed)

Farewell 9Y-ERA!

pablo_tt · Postby **pablo_tt** » March 23rd, 2011, 11:26 pm

norstar2k wrote:
bhisham45 wrote:New S76 9Y-NCN was flying around this eveining

New S76C++ 9Y-NCN was flying around this evening. (fixed)

Farewell 9Y-ERA!

Lease up?

hot blue · Postby **hot blue** » March 31st, 2011, 8:45 pm

when 9Y-BPT left and 9Y-ERA came in, it was the end of an old era and the start of a new... but now even ERA has left...lol

bgh · Postby **bgh** » April 1st, 2011, 10:23 am

ERA had real issues dread!!! one day she shutdown on the platform for an hour, fuel gauge malfunction (ops should not have said that) when they got started the flew back to shore empty, leaving men cussing.
Few days later while turning to land at Camden the dam thing make a dip, I saw 2 men in the front sleeping jump and hold each other.
When they land each blaming each other for who held who…btw that was funny….

Rahtid · Postby **Rahtid** » April 1st, 2011, 11:11 am

^^ lol

who here flies for Bristow? or Briko?

lexx · Postby **lexx** » April 2nd, 2011, 6:33 pm

LOL.... @ bgh... Yea i remember that fuel indication problem in era very well..... but her last few days here she worked well.... like she din't want to go back... but its always better when its out with the old and in with the new...