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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby Habit7 » April 27th, 2021, 4:30 pm

I agree I didn't match the specs perfectly I used an outlet for range, and if that is not enough, then it's too fancy for me. My Ecosmart going strong and not complaining, it serving the entire house.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby cornfused » April 27th, 2021, 5:22 pm

Racently had to change and tanked water heater. Many options available locally in Ao Smith 20 gal, but I was looking for a Bradford White. In the end got it at Parts World.

I am no plumber or electrician but I was able to reamove that old unit. Add more support to the stand with marine ply and dexion pieces and add some oil paint.





with a pro handyman we installed. Looking towards another 10 plus years of worry free service. This new unit is much easier to flush .

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 1st, 2021, 12:11 pm

cornfused wrote:Racently had to change and tanked water heater. Many options available locally in Ao Smith 20 gal, but I was looking for a Bradford White. In the end got it at Parts World.

I am no plumber or electrician but I was able to reamove that old unit. Add more support to the stand with marine ply and dexion pieces and add some oil paint.





with a pro handyman we installed. Looking towards another 10 plus years of worry free service. This new unit is much easier to flush .

what price you got it for?
I see most ppl are switching to tankless when their tanks fail.
I got over 12 years on this tank but now it needs changing

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby Dave » June 1st, 2021, 12:33 pm

The game changer for me with a tank is the ability for everyone to still have a hot shower when electricity is gone unless you get a gas powered tankless.
Had that decision in Jan this year and went with an AO from a Bradford due to that model having a drain whereas the Bradford didn't. I also have a water heater timer so some electricity savings roughly worked out to about $50 every two months. That unit just failed after 11 years of use.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby RedVEVO » June 1st, 2021, 2:49 pm

rebound wrote:Try Westinghouse, works great..I purchased them by Ramlagans
Reamos DC5 wrote:Morning Tuners,

Stiebel Eltron DCE 10 Trend (Tankless Water Heater)

Any reviews?


Hola :D

What model did you buy ? Price ?

The Westinghouse model .

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby nismotrinidappa » June 1st, 2021, 5:04 pm

I bought state select 20 gallon nice and small and neat. It's short to fit under cupboards. Think I got it at water source

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby cornfused » June 1st, 2021, 6:13 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
cornfused wrote:Racently had to change and tanked water heater. Many options available locally in Ao Smith 20 gal, but I was looking for a Bradford White. In the end got it at Parts World.

I am no plumber or electrician but I was able to remove that old unit. Add more support to the stand with marine ply and Dexion pieces and add some oil paint.

$3,500





with a pro handyman we installed. Looking towards another 10 plus years of worry free service. This new unit is much easier to flush .

what price you got it for?
I see most ppl are switching to tankless when their tanks fail.
I got over 12 years on this tank but now it needs changing

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby cornfused » June 1st, 2021, 6:15 pm

Dave wrote:The game changer for me with a tank is the ability for everyone to still have a hot shower when electricity is gone unless you get a gas powered tankless.
Had that decision in Jan this year and went with an AO from a Bradford due to that model having a drain whereas the Bradford didn't. I also have a water heater timer so some electricity savings roughly worked out to about $50 every two months. That unit just failed after 11 years of use.


Daddy Dave my Bradford has a drain much different from my old tanked water heater

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby Dave » June 1st, 2021, 6:25 pm

Thanks bro. I didn't think they updated the design I had and didn't even both to look at what they were offering me. The images online for the Bradford's didn't show any drains. Would have rather back a Bradford as the the line re routing would have been less if any at all.
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Dave wrote:The game changer for me with a tank is the ability for everyone to still have a hot shower when electricity is gone unless you get a gas powered tankless.
Had that decision in Jan this year and went with an AO from a Bradford due to that model having a drain whereas the Bradford didn't. I also have a water heater timer so some electricity savings roughly worked out to about $50 every two months. That unit just failed after 11 years of use.


Daddy Dave my Bradford has a drain much different from my old tanked water heater

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » March 12th, 2022, 10:20 am

Good morning folks. In the market for a tankless set up. Rotoplastics and water source pushing steilbel. Been reading about problems here and there. I have my 220 outlet with a 50A breaker. Point me in a good direction please. Keep in mind it's to service 4 bathrooms.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby Dave » March 12th, 2022, 10:22 am

Upstairs and downstairs?
Saw some Ecosmart units around.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » March 12th, 2022, 10:29 am

Dave wrote:Upstairs and downstairs?
Saw some Ecosmart units around.


Yes sir...up and down...2 baths upstairs, 2 downstairs

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby pugboy » March 12th, 2022, 10:39 am

you might need 2 heaters

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby matix » March 12th, 2022, 11:12 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Good morning folks. In the market for a tankless set up. Rotoplastics and water source pushing steilbel. Been reading about problems here and there. I have my 220 outlet with a 50A breaker. Point me in a good direction please. Keep in mind it's to service 4 bathrooms.



What size wire do you have for that supply? For the past few years we’ve had to upgrade most electrical supplies for customers who’ve gone from tank to tankless.

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WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 12th, 2022, 11:37 am

^ it was costing me waaay too much to go tankless because of the rewiring so I went back with a tank

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby pugboy » March 12th, 2022, 11:40 am

yep, even them fame shower heads often get wires arcing off with the correct wires because the supplied wires are so thick you have to know how to twist them good to make good connection

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » March 12th, 2022, 12:25 pm

matix wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Good morning folks. In the market for a tankless set up. Rotoplastics and water source pushing steilbel. Been reading about problems here and there. I have my 220 outlet with a 50A breaker. Point me in a good direction please. Keep in mind it's to service 4 bathrooms.



What size wire do you have for that supply? For the past few years we’ve had to upgrade most electrical supplies for customers who’ve gone from tank to tankless.


3x10 cables

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby pato » March 12th, 2022, 2:37 pm

pugboy wrote:yep, even them fame shower heads often get wires arcing off with the correct wires because the supplied wires are so thick you have to know how to twist them good to make good connection


Those Shower head heaters are usually called "suicide showers" for a reasons, be extremely careful with those

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby pugboy » March 12th, 2022, 2:53 pm

i thought they were called "shocking showers"

the key thing is they must have their own isolated circuit close to them
so any wires overheating or melted burns right there close to the unit and not elsewhere to catch other things on fire.

they are in very wide use around the country.

pato wrote:
pugboy wrote:yep, even them fame shower heads often get wires arcing off with the correct wires because the supplied wires are so thick you have to know how to twist them good to make good connection


Those Shower head heaters are usually called "suicide showers" for a reasons, be extremely careful with those

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby RedVEVO » March 13th, 2022, 4:32 am

^^
Tankless better than Tank .

Waaaaay better !

With Tankless your hot water is practically unlimited .

With Tank the hot water is limited to the size (gallon) of your tank .

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby De Dragon » March 13th, 2022, 6:03 am

RedVEVO wrote:^^
Tankless better than Tank .

Waaaaay better !

With Tankless your hot water is practically unlimited .

With Tank the hot water is limited to the size (gallon) of your tank .

How much hot water do you need on a daily basis exactly?
Due to size constraints, I have the smallest water heater tank (Bradford White 40 gallon) and it is more than adequate

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby adnj » March 13th, 2022, 7:46 am

De Dragon wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:^^
Tankless better than Tank .

Waaaaay better !

With Tankless your hot water is practically unlimited .

With Tank the hot water is limited to the size (gallon) of your tank .

How much hot water do you need on a daily basis exactly?
Due to size constraints, I have the smallest water heater tank (Bradford White 40 gallon) and it is more than adequate


There is no clear winner in the tank vs. tankless argument. The answer is really dependent on usage, infrastructure, space requirements, and cost.

40 gal is what you would want for a family of four - the rule of thumb is 10 gal/person. There are smaller electric tank water heaters available.

When sizing a tankless water heater, an estimate of maximum usage based on adding the flow rate of each fixture that is assumed to be used simultaneously is required. Then you buy that size of tankless water heater.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » March 13th, 2022, 10:58 am

Another friend mentioned Westinghouse in addition to the steibel...what you guys say?

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby gastly369 » March 13th, 2022, 11:15 am

Have gas water heaters zero electricity
Check out camplux on amazon another option to tankless

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby *KRONIK* » March 13th, 2022, 11:23 am

gastly369 wrote:Have gas water heaters zero electricity
Check out camplux on amazon another option to tankless
Tell me more

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby eitech » March 13th, 2022, 11:30 am

De Dragon wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:^^
Tankless better than Tank .

Waaaaay better !

With Tankless your hot water is practically unlimited .

With Tank the hot water is limited to the size (gallon) of your tank .

How much hot water do you need on a daily basis exactly?
Due to size constraints, I have the smallest water heater tank (Bradford White 40 gallon) and it is more than adequate


My Bradford white is 30 gallons

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby adnj » March 13th, 2022, 11:33 am

Tank and tankless LPG water heaters are available. They tend not to last as long as electric due to the corrosive nature of LPG combustion. If it has a pilot light, you won't require an electrical connection. An average household will use about four to eight 100 lb tanks each year.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby hindian » March 13th, 2022, 2:25 pm

pugboy wrote:i thought they were called "shocking showers"

the key thing is they must have their own isolated circuit close to them
so any wires overheating or melted burns right there close to the unit and not elsewhere to catch other things on fire.

they are in very wide use around the country.

pato wrote:
pugboy wrote:yep, even them fame shower heads often get wires arcing off with the correct wires because the supplied wires are so thick you have to know how to twist them good to make good connection


Those Shower head heaters are usually called "suicide showers" for a reasons, be extremely careful with those
I've been using those things for years (15+) and never experienced any of the problems associated with them . More than anything I believe it's human error. It works for me as i only need hot water in the shower and the people in my house knows exactly how to use it. I want to go tankless eventually as the wifey say she want hot water from the kitchen sink so yea.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby adnj » March 13th, 2022, 3:45 pm

hindian wrote:
pugboy wrote:i thought they were called "shocking showers"

the key thing is they must have their own isolated circuit close to them
so any wires overheating or melted burns right there close to the unit and not elsewhere to catch other things on fire.

they are in very wide use around the country.

pato wrote:
pugboy wrote:yep, even them fame shower heads often get wires arcing off with the correct wires because the supplied wires are so thick you have to know how to twist them good to make good connection


Those Shower head heaters are usually called "suicide showers" for a reasons, be extremely careful with those
I've been using those things for years (15+) and never experienced any of the problems associated with them . More than anything I believe it's human error. It works for me as i only need hot water in the shower and the people in my house knows exactly how to use it. I want to go tankless eventually as the wifey say she want hot water from the kitchen sink so yea.
There are some relatively inexpensive undersink heaters from Ducha that work well for retrofitting a single faucet.

You can use PEX tubing for the inlet/outlet and need a 30A 4.0 mm 115V grounded circuit and lighted switch. Just tee off from the cold water supply.

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Re: WTK Tank or Tankless Water Heater

Postby hindian » March 13th, 2022, 5:22 pm

I didn't know that so I'll definitely be checking that out. Thanks beo

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