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link wrote:rollingstock wrote:^ Well there we have it folks, advice from the proud folks at TTASA
De man say government land, yuh cyah read? Your scenario and his are vastly different.
Now pray tell why would you call the police or min of housing?
gawd boi...u want in it in yr plate & somebody to feed u too........???
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different scenario...SAME PRINCIPLE...Govt has to protect their property also...
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maybe YOU can figure out (during this century) what happens to someone who can't explain to the authorities why copper is being stripped from wiring that don't belong to u
zoom rader wrote:^^^ Cause PNM say so, give the black man a chance nah all yuh like everything for all yuhself.
desifemlove wrote:and wit HDC house, nobody needs to squat. whether PNM or UNC, just pass a law saying anybody who squat on state or private lands get 10 years in jail and/or $1,000,000 fine. if they truly ent got no land, fine build a house or house in existent space. if not, pay fine or mek ah jail. seems harsh but signal need to be sent.
Slartibartfast wrote:Yes because fining poor people $1,000,000 or throwing them in jail for being poor will solve the problem
Since you are already all for providing a decade's worth of free housing and living expenses, why not just give them basic financial aid and assist them in owning their own home with the same money you would have used to keep them locked up for 10 years? However, this way they get to legally own a place of their own and still have a chance to contribute to society over those 10 years.
Spitfir3 wrote:desifemlove wrote:and wit HDC house, nobody needs to squat. whether PNM or UNC, just pass a law saying anybody who squat on state or private lands get 10 years in jail and/or $1,000,000 fine. if they truly ent got no land, fine build a house or house in existent space. if not, pay fine or mek ah jail. seems harsh but signal need to be sent.
lol yea because the process is as easy as walking in with all your paperwork an walking out with a fresh set of keys right? man waiting years upon years an still not guaranteed to get anything
this matter ain't that simple, rent is like extremely high so to the poor that got nothing is either squat or live on the road and giving them a harsh fine isn't going to help them nor will it help society because lets be honest the won't be able to pay so what do you think they might resort to in order to do so?
desifemlove wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:Yes because fining poor people $1,000,000 or throwing them in jail for being poor will solve the problem
Since you are already all for providing a decade's worth of free housing and living expenses, why not just give them basic financial aid and assist them in owning their own home with the same money you would have used to keep them locked up for 10 years? However, this way they get to legally own a place of their own and still have a chance to contribute to society over those 10 years.
Cos many who squat are able, does get/have money, and are lazy and scampish. to say dey is all poor and destitute ent true.
Slartibartfast wrote:Jail is meant to be a form of rehabilitation. Would the squatters be able to afford land once they come out of jail? How long are you putting them in jail for?
I agree something should be done about squatters but putting them in jail is not the answer.
If it is not possible to provide for yourself while working in a full time job then there is a problem outside of you (not saying this is always the case, but it sometimes is). What's minimum wage now?
Slartibartfast wrote:Jail is meant to be a form of rehabilitation. Would the squatters be able to afford land once they come out of jail? How long are you putting them in jail for?
I agree something should be done about squatters but putting them in jail is not the answer.
If it is not possible to provide for yourself while working in a full time job then there is a problem outside of you (not saying this is always the case, but it sometimes is). What's minimum wage now?
Who should build the house? The state or the individual?desifemlove wrote:Fact is, as i said, if people have no real land or are destitute, build a house.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Look at the people who make up the squatting community.what type of jobs do they hold? You all really think they could afford to buy land that is 200k and up and still build something after?
This is one of d main reasons why people squat ...
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