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Just Great for Tobago Tourism !? Warning - Graphic Report

Postby bluefete » December 26th, 2010, 5:22 pm

THIS WILL DO WONDERS FOR THE FEW TOURISTS PLANNING TO VISIT TOBAGO FROM THE UK.

We were virtually hacked to death with a machete in Tobago... but all the authorities did was to ask us to tell the world about their 'fantastic' island

By Polly Dunbar

Last updated at 12:54 PM on 26th December 2010

It was a conversation that, even now, Peter and Murium Green find difficult to believe ever actually took place.

Farid Hinds, a minister for tourism on the Caribbean island of Tobago, had turned up at their home in Somerset bearing gifts – an ornament featuring a miniature steel drum and a brightly patterned sarong.

The couple invited Mr Hinds in and, in return, they were asked to return to Tobago to take part in its annual carnival.


ImageScarred for life: Peter and Murium Green outside their home in Wellington, Somerset

It's a proposal that they admit they would find funny were it not for the horrific ordeal that prompted it. For just a few months earlier, the Greens had been brutally attacked with a machete at their villa on the island and left close to death.

'He wanted us to sit on a float and tell everybody what a fantastic country Tobago is,' says Murium, shaking her head in disbelief.

Her husband adds: 'We'd seen no sign of any compensation or even respect from officials in Tobago – now it seemed all they cared about was trying to get us onside to save the reputation of their country from all the bad publicity surrounding what happened to us.

'Like idiots, we posed for photographs with their ridiculous gifts, because our injuries were still so bad at that stage that we didn't have the energy to refuse.

'But the idea that we would take part in a carnival to celebrate Tobago after what we'd been through? We still can't take it in.'

Indeed, the couple still bear the scars – both physical and mental – of the machete attack that almost killed them.

As they dozed in the sun on August 1, 2009, a man strolled into their garden and, seemingly without reason, started hacking at their bodies. The senseless and sickening nature of the assault made headlines around the world, but in its aftermath, as Peter and Murium began the slow journey to recovery from their terrible injuries, they leapt to defend Tobago.

ImageBed-ridden: Peter pictured with Murium at Musgrove Park Hospital in Taunton, where re recuperated on his return from Tobago

Fearful of the damage their story would do to tourism and the local economy, they spoke of the wonderful people on the island and the idyllic lifestyle they had enjoyed prior to the attack.

Now, though, they want to tell a very different story. Their subsequent treatment by the Tobagan authorities has convinced them that the island is far from the paradise they initially believed it to be.

Instead, they believe their quest to discover why they were targeted is being hindered by officials who they suspect want their case – and all the negative attention it has brought – to go away.

'We want to tell the truth about what happened now in the hope that it puts British people off going there,' says Peter.

'It's the only weapon we have.'

When Peter and Murium first bought their holiday home in Tobago eight years ago, they were running a hotel in Wellington, Somerset. Their plan was to retire as soon as they could and spend much of their time in Tobago.

'We had enjoyed a lovely holiday on the island and at the airport on the way home we met another British couple who told us they lived in Tobago, which gave us the idea to buy a place of our own,' says Murium, 61.

'Initially, we bought some land and started laying foundations, but then we heard about a lovely four-bedroom beachside villa in Bacolet which we could afford, so we stopped the building work and bought the villa instead.

'At first, we were still running our hotel, but we would go to Tobago two or three times a year. Then, after we retired in 2006, we would go there for longer periods.

'We absolutely loved it. The beach just outside our house, Minister Bay, is like something from a Bounty advert – stunning golden sands lined with palm trees. A lot of the locals were very welcoming and we made good friends.'

ImageDream home: The couple's house in Bacolet, Tobago

But the truth is that Peter and Murium had already begun to worry about Tobago's rising crime rate long before they were attacked.

'The longer we were there, the more of the other side of Tobago we saw,' says Peter, 66.

'We knew women who had been raped and other people who had been violently attacked.

'We were robbed four times and we had to install heavy bars across the windows at our villa. I saw for myself the corruption that is part of everyday life when I had a car accident. It wasn't my fault, but I was asked to pay a fine of 5,000 local dollars [about £500] and saw a policeman share it out among his colleagues in front of me.

'This year, there have been more than 400 murders there. It's not safe.'

Even so, the attack against them was unimaginable. It was only due to a cruel twist of fate that the couple were in Tobago at all. Peter had recently been diagnosed with prostate cancer and had decided on the spur of the moment to take a two-week break before starting radiation treatment.

'Talking about it is still very hard,' he says.

'We had both nodded off in the heat and I was woken by the most tremendous pain in my head. I thought something had dropped out of the sky and hit me.'

Unknown to the couple, an assailant had crept into their garden carrying a foot-long machete. It is believed Peter was struck first, and suffered four or five punishing blows. The tip of the blade cracked open his skull, he was cut across the nose, and smashed so hard in the face, probably with the butt of the machete, that his cheekbones were fractured and he lost several teeth.

Immediately afterwards, Murium endured her own assault. With one savage strike, the attacker smashed both cheekbones and eye-sockets. Her jaw was also detached.

'I remember seeing all this blood, and when I looked at Peter, I could see how awful his injuries were,' she recalls.

'Somehow, I crawled out of the house and on to the road. I couldn't call out for help because of my injuries – I was holding my face together with my hands.

'I remember that it was so hot out in the sun. I saw cars go past with the windows wound down and cameras pointing at me. I can understand they didn't want to get involved, but how could they take photos? 'The last thing I remember is my neighbour screaming. She called for help for us.'

Murium was admitted to Mount Hope Hospital on the neighbouring island of Trinidad for several days, and underwent operations to rebuild her shattered face. Her husband spent the next two weeks in the same hospital in a medically induced coma to help reduce the swelling on his brain, but he was not expected to survive.

'The doctors told our son Martin to come and say goodbye to me,' says Peter, struggling to keep his emotions in check.

When it was deemed safe, Murium was flown home to continue her treatment, which meant that she was forced to leave behind her still critically ill husband.

'That was one of the worst aspects of the whole thing,' she says.

Peter's sister Anne flew in from her home in Canada to be at his bedside, and what she witnessed horrified her.

'I've never spoken about this before, because I didn't want to cause any further trouble for Trinidad and Tobago, but I found some of my treatment in the hospital appalling,' says Peter.

'The doctors did all they could for me but one nurse would whisper to me that I was a "white bastard" and that I would be "punished" at night.

'On one occasion, my sister saw a nurse washing my open wounds with a cloth which she had previously used to wash my bottom. When my sister complained, the nurses refused to let her in to see me for an entire day.

'The truth is, there are some Tobagans who hate foreigners and aren't afraid to show it. The entire time I was in hospital, I was terrified. When I finally flew home after three weeks, I'll never forget the relief I felt.'

Once back in Britain, Peter and Murium concentrated on trying to get better. Due to his head injuries, Peter spent a month at Musgrove Park Hospital in Taunton learning how to walk again, and then underwent seven weeks of radiation treatment for his cancer, which is now in remission.

But it is the only piece of good news the couple have received lately. Peter still has no feeling in the left side of his body and needs Murium's help with basic tasks. He now has to wear hearing aids and, because he suffers double vision in his left eye, he requires glasses with one cloudy lens.

'I used to be fit and healthy but I'll never be the man I was,' he says.

'I was never a good-looking man but I had clear blue eyes, and now one of them is just a mass of scars.'

ImageLiving in paradise: Peter and Murium Green at their house in Bacolet, Tobago, before the attack

ImageRetirement heaven: Peter and Murium Green sitting on the patio of their Caribbean home

Murium, too, still suffers. Much of her face is constructed from metal plates and she has difficulty eating. 'I see my scars every morning when I look in the mirror and I curse the man who did this to hell.'

Immediately after the attack, Orville London, the chief secretary of the Tobago House of Assembly, the local government body responsible for Tobago within the twin island nation of Trinidad and Tobago, visited Murium in hospital. Mr London, the most powerful politician in Tobago, promised her that they would receive the compensation due to any victim of violent crime there.

However, despite repeatedly calling and emailing the Ministry for Tourism, which was supposed to oversee their application, the couple have received nothing.

'We keep being told that because of elections in Tobago, there is nobody in the ministry yet to process our application,' says Peter.

'But the elections were held in May.

'We're not poor – we worked hard and saved for our retirement. But we've had to spend a lot of money on our rehabilitation. We're entitled to nothing from the British Government because the attack happened abroad, but we feel very upset and disappointed that we've had nothing from Tobago. It feels as if they don't care.'

Clint Alexis, a petty criminal with a history of mental illness from a small village called Argyle in eastern Tobago, is due to stand trial for the attack. But the Greens believe the Tobagan police are not attempting to get to the bottom of what really happened.

Peter says: 'During our time in Tobago, we fired someone who worked for us because we suspected that person had been stealing from us. But prior to that, we had made arrangements to leave the villa to that person after we died.

Obviously we changed those arrangements, and they found out and were angry. We told the police, who interviewed the person but didn't take it any further.

A British friend who is a policeman said he would have pursued that line a lot more strongly.

'We've been warned that the police out there often frame people if they want crimes solved and out of the way. Certainly the locals don't believe Clint Alexis is responsible – 300 people rioted outside the court the last time he appeared.

'But they seem to blame us, which is very frightening as we have to go back there for a hearing on January 11.

'It's not uncommon for witnesses to be murdered in Tobago. Someone who was at a meeting of the Tobago House of Assembly told me that our case was discussed shortly after the attack, when it was unclear if we would recover, and an official said, "The best thing that could happen is that the Greens will die".

'So we don't know if the police will protect us while we are out there.'

In November last year, a German engineer called Peter Taut, who lived a couple of houses away from the Greens, was murdered and his body was found in a shallow grave in his own garden. The couple wonder if the attacks could be linked.

'What happened to Peter was very strange. He was trying to sell his house so he could move back to Germany,' says Peter Green.

'He told another neighbour of ours that a man had knocked on his door and offered him a lot more money than the asking price, so he agreed. Then he was killed.

'When his body was found, the police arrested four people – two men and two women – who were living in Peter's house. The deeds on the property had been changed to their names.

'Prior to his death, Peter had also been caught up in some trouble with the police. He gave a lift home to a young woman who worked in a hotel nearby, and she complained that he had assaulted her.

'We wonder if he was deliberately targeted as a result of that, and if our attack was a case of mistaken identity.'

Through contacts living in Tobago, the couple have since learned that many violent crimes on the island are linked to property.

'We've heard criminals pay local land registry officials to change property deeds into their name. Then they kill the genuine owners and inherit the house,' says Peter.

'We were involved in a dispute over the land we bought before buying our villa. We had arranged to sell it but then the man we had originally bought it from claimed there was a clause in our contract stating that only he could buy it back from us. There was no such clause, but it stopped the sale going through.'

The case against Clint Alexis has been adjourned over and over again, and little news has been relayed to Murium and Peter.

When Peter recently called the police sergeant in charge of the investigation to enquire about a new date for the trial, the officer told him he did not know. It's just another of the frustrations the couple have endured since returning to their home in Wellington.

Shortly after the attack, the couple discovered their villa had been broken into. The burglar tore out the plumbing and stole everything valuable – from the couple's video camera and sound system to clothing and jewellery.

The Greens are now in the process of arranging for a builder to repair the damage so they can sell the home they once considered a haven.

'I just want this nightmare to be over so we can get on with the rest of our lives,' says Murium.

But for her husband, it will not truly be over until he finally gets some answers to their questions.

'We just want to know the truth – after what we've been through, we deserve it,' he says.


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Postby MISHI » December 26th, 2010, 5:51 pm

The bed has been made... now it must be laid in. This is how some of the fools in Tobago now will cause us all here to lose...

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Postby - Rovin's car audio - » December 26th, 2010, 6:01 pm

i genuinely really sorry for them but we have to squarely lay d blame on d PP since they in charge right now & is they who hadda fix it















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Postby Michael Knight... » December 26th, 2010, 8:23 pm

This is a boat load of sheit. This is what we are now? That is the worst I've heard yet.

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Postby brams112 » December 26th, 2010, 9:20 pm

kaka hole say crime only recently get out of control oui,sad thing for this couple to go through

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Postby eliteauto » December 26th, 2010, 9:41 pm

Tobago's tourism is already under pressure
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Tob ... 60489.html

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Postby S_2NR » December 26th, 2010, 10:19 pm

feel really sry for them..
trinidad and tobago goin down d fackin drain..
time to fly out yes.. :roll:

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Postby redmanjp » December 26th, 2010, 10:32 pm

article shows up if u google tobago and click on news

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Postby M_2NR » December 26th, 2010, 10:56 pm

this is truly sad and graphic... Crime in both countries are quite serious... this has tickled my interest a bit tho... watch this....

bluefete wrote:.......

Peter says: 'During our time in Tobago, we fired someone who worked for us because we suspected that person had been stealing from us. But prior to that, we had made arrangements to leave the villa to that person after we died.

Obviously we changed those arrangements, and they found out and were angry. We told the police, who interviewed the person but didn't take it any further.

.....

In November last year, a German engineer called Peter Taut, who lived a couple of houses away from the Greens, was murdered and his body was found in a shallow grave in his own garden. The couple wonder if the attacks could be linked.

'What happened to Peter was very strange. He was trying to sell his house so he could move back to Germany,' says Peter Green.

'He told another neighbour of ours that a man had knocked on his door and offered him a lot more money than the asking price, so he agreed. Then he was killed.

'When his body was found, the police arrested four people – two men and two women – who were living in Peter's house. The deeds on the property had been changed to their names.

...

Through contacts living in Tobago, the couple have since learned that many violent crimes on the island are linked to property.

'We've heard criminals pay local land registry officials to change property deeds into their name. Then they kill the genuine owners and inherit the house,' says Peter.

'We were involved in a dispute over the land we bought before buying our villa. We had arranged to sell it but then the man we had originally bought it from claimed there was a clause in our contract stating that only he could buy it back from us. There was no such clause, but it stopped the sale going through.'

...

d hell...

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Postby redmanjp » December 26th, 2010, 11:02 pm

yeah- and d part about the nurse calling them white bastards- reverse racism oui

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Postby zcarz » December 26th, 2010, 11:27 pm

yea, let them expose the dotishness that goin on, then they gonna have incentive to fix crime.. get orn whitey

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Postby rossi » December 26th, 2010, 11:34 pm

This brings back memories yes....ah real feel sorry for those two when it happened.
There should have been more investigations. We have to take what we getting now because of this article.We really are the ones to blame.

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Postby ruffneck_12 » December 27th, 2010, 3:22 am

Tobago third world? or is that just angry Brits venting? Read the comments
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Postby FLEX » December 27th, 2010, 5:32 am

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Postby zcarz » December 27th, 2010, 5:40 am

FLEX wrote:THEY ARE SO RIGHT TO POST THIS I AM A TRINI AND I DONT DISAGREE BEACAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY OUR COUNTRY...WE LOVE WHERE WE LIVE LETS MAKE IT THAT....EVERYONE LOVES WHERE WE LIVE BUTTTTT......BOTTOM LINE IS THEY WERE ABUSED AND REFUSED HOW DISGUSTING IS THIS I HAVE HAD MANY FRIENDS ROBBED ETC ESPECIALLY IN THE MT ERVIN AREA..AND ALSO A HOUSE I WONT CALL A NAME TO OVER THERE THAT THE NEIGHBOUR WILL THROW GALVANISE ETC IN THE YARD ON A RETIRES LAND AND ALL THE POLICE COULD SAY IS CALL US WHEN IT HAPPPEN........WHEN IT HAPPENS THEY COME AND ASK WELLL JUST PUT IT OUTSIDE IM SURE SOMEONE COULD USE IT......BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...WE LOVE TOURISIM......GREATTTTTTTTTT ....please fix these thing tobago has so much tourism opportunitiess bucco reef,charlotte ville,waterfalls,diving,snorkling,love culture etc THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE NEED THIS CAME TO HELP PROVIDE TO PEOPLE MABY a lower (who cares imagine they were leaving the house to someone they knew in tobago) class than them,imagine a person you probably knew for a few years you would leave a million dollar home to in your will...THATS GENUINE PURE LOVE FOR A COUNTRY........FIX THIS MAKE IT RIGHT....... dont call a white boy a white boy,dont call a black boy a black boy.dont call a indian brown call a human a brother or a sister......

hope one day they recover fully

Kamla say no assistance to CARICOM.

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Postby Shango_13 » December 27th, 2010, 5:45 am

Kamala will give them a hamper and they will shut up

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Postby Rooki3 » December 27th, 2010, 8:21 am

M_2NR wrote:this is truly sad and graphic... Crime in both countries are quite serious... this has tickled my interest a bit tho... watch this....

bluefete wrote:.......

Peter says: 'During our time in Tobago, we fired someone who worked for us because we suspected that person had been stealing from us. But prior to that, we had made arrangements to leave the villa to that person after we died.

Obviously we changed those arrangements, and they found out and were angry. We told the police, who interviewed the person but didn't take it any further.

.....

In November last year, a German engineer called Peter Taut, who lived a couple of houses away from the Greens, was murdered and his body was found in a shallow grave in his own garden. The couple wonder if the attacks could be linked.

'What happened to Peter was very strange. He was trying to sell his house so he could move back to Germany,' says Peter Green.

'He told another neighbour of ours that a man had knocked on his door and offered him a lot more money than the asking price, so he agreed. Then he was killed.

'When his body was found, the police arrested four people – two men and two women – who were living in Peter's house. The deeds on the property had been changed to their names.

...

Through contacts living in Tobago, the couple have since learned that many violent crimes on the island are linked to property.

'We've heard criminals pay local land registry officials to change property deeds into their name. Then they kill the genuine owners and inherit the house,' says Peter.

'We were involved in a dispute over the land we bought before buying our villa. We had arranged to sell it but then the man we had originally bought it from claimed there was a clause in our contract stating that only he could buy it back from us. There was no such clause, but it stopped the sale going through.'

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d hell...



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

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Postby Rooki3 » December 27th, 2010, 8:26 am

d man say it had 400 murders in tobago :lol:

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Postby brams112 » December 27th, 2010, 8:30 am

tobagoians hate even oui trinis,,,,,,,,,,

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Postby sMASH » December 27th, 2010, 8:43 am

pnm legacy

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Postby nos_specialist » December 27th, 2010, 8:54 am

tobago needs to get rid of all the foreigners.....including us, get back to the times where u cudda stop ah stranger on d road share some fruits, leave yur house wide open and head to d beach.....

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Postby Stephon. » December 27th, 2010, 9:01 am

lmao @ Rooki3
you like make out scene eh!

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Postby Humes » December 27th, 2010, 9:02 am

Know what does always amuse me about threads like these?

The way alyuh does act like small-minded natives runnin around in circles screamin lord-have-mercy.

"Negative report about our country in the foreign press! No one will ever love us again! The world is laughing at us! AAAAAAAAAAIIIIEEEE!!!!11"

"THEY ROB QUEEN LATIFAH!! OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Everyone will HATE Tobago!!"

wait a minute...


If Tobago tourism fails, it will fail because of neglect and mismanagement on a long-term and major scale, not because of a few negative reports like this.

Stuff like this and worse happens in other Caribbean islands, Latin America and Asia on a regular basis. And it often makes huge, international news. And people still flock to those destinations. It's because they've established their brands so deeply that their names are synonymous with vacationing.

Most people doh even know T&T exists. For better and for worse, nobody gives a shiit.

Alyuh just like tuh make big bacchanal outta everything.
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Postby Stephon. » December 27th, 2010, 9:02 am

but its not just foreigners Tobago ppl hate, they hate trini ppl too

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Postby Humes » December 27th, 2010, 9:06 am

Stephon. wrote:but its not just foreigners Tobago ppl hate, they hate trini ppl too


Five decades after their departure, the British could still turn Trinbagonians against each other...

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Postby MISHI » December 27th, 2010, 9:13 am

I believe the 400 murders were for Trinidad AND Tobago..... not just Tobago.


And the property scam seems to really have been a true case... which may have involved that last drama with the guy they found the bodies in the yard recently... and it wasn't only 2 from what I was told...

But you can't blame them for speaking out... I mean the first article when they got attacked they did say that tobago is lovely and it won't stop em from coming back...

I mean if we were shot the hell up in New York or Stabbed in the UK and felt like we were wronged... what would WE do?

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Postby AutoSport » December 27th, 2010, 9:32 am

Until the truth is openly faced and the politics confined to the dustbin,
the negatives will continue to haunt and destroy any half-hearted attempt at rebuilding.

Mishi continue to tell it as you see it.

Same thing for all the road accidents where people are killed when cars cross the medians.

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Postby Chimera » December 27th, 2010, 9:38 am

victims of crime are entitled to compensation though?

i didn't know that

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Postby V2NR 3.0 » December 27th, 2010, 10:07 am

Interesting. This new government will hopefully do damage control and improve things.

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