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carluva wrote:You will need a sealant that is best suited for roofing and can stand up to the weather.
You should also look for a high build sealant as typically, the normal silicone can only do a max of 1/4" bead thickness. Anything larger and the Brad would sag and pull away from the gap being sealed.
Geocel 2300 (purple tube) is a very good sealant used by many roof persons. There is also Enduro but iirc, this is in a can or pail so needs to be applied with a small trowel.
Then there is also a strip of good old flashband. But this will not have the aesthetic appeal depending on the location of the roof.
.supercharged turbo wrote:I'm getting some water seepage between the flashing and wall.We used sikaflex previously to fill the gap and it worked for awhile but it seems the sikaflex is becoming loose allowing water to seep in.I'm thinking to use either some flex seal or the Lake Asphalt Sealant in the quart.Any suggestions?
zorced wrote:Yo guys. Looking for a place that might have this finish or similar for kitchen cabinets. Only checked Carpenter's Edge so far but no luck. Thanks!1400953130359.jpeg
NR8 wrote:zorced wrote:Yo guys. Looking for a place that might have this finish or similar for kitchen cabinets. Only checked Carpenter's Edge so far but no luck. Thanks!1400953130359.jpeg
Try Kelvin Ghany for melamine coated MDF. They may have a similar finish.
Jerry84 wrote:Anyone here ever used the Jotun metal primer? I have a pedestrian gate that was recently built with zinc coated rhs.
I'm only familiar with the regular etching primer for the paint to hold. I was told the Jotun primer is better to use for this application. What are your thoughts? What's the process to treat and then paint this metal gate?
Jerry84 wrote:Anyone here ever used the Jotun metal primer? I have a pedestrian gate that was recently built with zinc coated rhs.
I'm only familiar with the regular etching primer for the paint to hold. I was told the Jotun primer is better to use for this application. What are your thoughts? What's the process to treat and then paint this metal gate?
timelapse wrote:Theres also adhesion primer.I got real hell to paint a guitar pedal I was making.The adhesion primer worked really good.Surface was wiped with gasoline before priming and allowed to dry.Paint held up so far, and I does abuse the damn thing so much
This Glazing putty was used for the joints/welds to give a smooth finish and to fill any voids that may exist.carluva wrote:I am not sure what metal primer you are referring to but last year, I redid my fence sections (9 total) and gate. Previously, there was etching primer and then many layers of paint/red oxide after being installed 10+ years and repainting several times.
I ended up stripping all paint (water and tool) down to metal. I applied a Jotun two part system of Jotamastic epoxy base coat and Hardtop two part top coat.
To my knowledge, that system is not what is typically sold at Idrees, QPSL, etc.
The system I used has alot of body and is thick. Everything was cleaned two weeks ago with water, soap and bleach and looks fantastic.
I will suggest you use what is pictured to seal all voids in the iron work prior to painting especially if decorative knobs are welded on. That will prevent moisture ingress through the voids and further prevent rusting from the inside.
I'll take some photos of my iron work tomorrow in daylight and send so you can get an idea of the finish.Jerry84 wrote:Anyone here ever used the Jotun metal primer? I have a pedestrian gate that was recently built with zinc coated rhs.
I'm only familiar with the regular etching primer for the paint to hold. I was told the Jotun primer is better to use for this application. What are your thoughts? What's the process to treat and then paint this metal gate?
Can you suggest a base coat to use?carluva wrote:Jerry84 wrote:Anyone here ever used the Jotun metal primer? I have a pedestrian gate that was recently built with zinc coated rhs.
I'm only familiar with the regular etching primer for the paint to hold. I was told the Jotun primer is better to use for this application. What are your thoughts? What's the process to treat and then paint this metal gate?
Some additional information. Through my personal experiences, observations, research and consultation, the use of etching primer on iron work is mostly improperly used here.
The problem with galvanised metal is that the surface is (1) too slick and (2) contains residue oils, both of which prevent proper adhesion of any base coat. Etching primer is acidic and can etch some thin ferrous materials sufficiently to promote adhesion through "grip". Etching primer on galvanized RHS (as an example) is not sufficiently strong to etch the material to give a surface which promotes the adhesion of the base coat. The etching primer does however contain chemicals which are sufficient to remove the residues left over from galvanising. But epoxy primers cannot adhere well to a surface etched by etching primer.
IMO you have some routes for maximum adhesion of coatings on your zinc coated RHS.
1) Etching Primer followed by a light tooling of the surface using a wire cup brush on an angle grinder. or even some rough sandpaper. This will be enough to remove the residues and then create a "profile" on the metal for adhesion of the base coat. The base coat should be urethane based not the red oxide or grey oxide. These are not suitable for galvanized material (check the paint data sheets yourself and you will see same). Once the base coat is on, apply our urethane top coat. The problem is that most fabricators or painters will tell you to use the etching primer, then the red oxide and then the top coat. This does not work and always results in your paint flaking off. Red oxide is suitable for raw steel such as I-Beams not galvanised steel. I have not done much research on suitable urethane base coats as I went the route of epoxy as previously mentioned.
2) Solvent clean using mineral spirits such as acetone. These leave no residue and strip the surface of oils. Then apply an epoxy base coat followed by suitable top coat.
3) Same as #2 but you can lightly tool as described in #1 prior to base coat.
Do not, I repeat do not use etching primer alone (without tooling) or use etching primer with a red oxide or grey oxide. Your paint will flake off sooner rather than later. I have observed this with mines and for this reason opted to use the epoxy system after removing all existing coatings.
PS it sounds like alot of work and money but the initial work and cost is far less than the maintenance and cost over the life of your gate. If I knew what I knew now, I would have done this when the fence and gates were built.
Jerry84 wrote:Can you suggest a base coat to use?
Jerry84 wrote:Also what polyurethane coating do you suggest?
carluva wrote:
1) Etching Primer followed by a light tooling of the surface using a wire cup brush on an angle grinder. or even some rough sandpaper. This will be enough to remove the residues and then create a "profile" on the metal for adhesion of the base coat. The base coat should be urethane based not the red oxide or grey oxide. These are not suitable for galvanized material (check the paint data sheets yourself and you will see same). Once the base coat is on, apply our urethane top coat. The problem is that most fabricators or painters will tell you to use the etching primer, then the red oxide and then the top coat. This does not work and always results in your paint flaking off. Red oxide is suitable for raw steel such as I-Beams not galvanised steel. I have not done much research on suitable urethane base coats as I went the route of epoxy as previously mentioned.
tropi_flakes wrote:Throwing this out here because most of yall seem level-headed. I'm currently intrested in a prime parcel of land in the east, the person that "owns" it however is not in possession of a deed. The house/land was willed to his mother by his father ' both decased' and that's as far as it goes for paperwork. He is however the last living child of his parents and for the past 15+ years that I've known him no one has ever come to "claim" the property even tho it's vacant for said amount of time. Long story short, should I just leave that as is or is there a road I could take to assist him in getting it into his name first if it's even possible before I try to aquire it from him. I really don't want to miss this opportunity but I also don't want to be back and forth for years to come before I get something solid in had when it comes to ownership.
Great info hereThe_Honourable wrote:tropi_flakes wrote:Throwing this out here because most of yall seem level-headed. I'm currently intrested in a prime parcel of land in the east, the person that "owns" it however is not in possession of a deed. The house/land was willed to his mother by his father ' both decased' and that's as far as it goes for paperwork. He is however the last living child of his parents and for the past 15+ years that I've known him no one has ever come to "claim" the property even tho it's vacant for said amount of time. Long story short, should I just leave that as is or is there a road I could take to assist him in getting it into his name first if it's even possible before I try to aquire it from him. I really don't want to miss this opportunity but I also don't want to be back and forth for years to come before I get something solid in had when it comes to ownership.
Speaking from experience, it is possible but it would be long.
Since a will is involved, the person has to apply for his mother's estate. Once he get's the grant of probate as the Legal Personal Representative of his mom, he can then apply for his Father's estate. Once he gets the grant of probate as LPR of his father's estate, he can transfer the property from his father to himself via his mom.
This next option is tricky but conditions apply. If his father's will mentions his mother ONLY as the beneficiary, you don't have to use the will. The person just apply for Letters of Administration of his father's estate directly where in the application, it is mentioned that the mother and other children are deceased thus proving the person is in fact the next of kin and beneficiary of his father's estate. Once it is granted and he becomes LPR, he can transfer the property directly to himself.
Once the property is in his name, then both of you can deal. Don't put too much hope because he can switch on you and sell to someone else. You can advise and recommend him an attorney but at the end of the day, he have to sort out his business.
Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know. He is also of age and wants to get the process rolling as he has no chick, child or parrot on a stick. When he dies that's it for the bloodline and the property. So I will try my best to assist him with the process because I know his finances will not allow him to do it on his on. Will update as time progresses.The_Honourable wrote:tropi_flakes wrote:Throwing this out here because most of yall seem level-headed. I'm currently intrested in a prime parcel of land in the east, the person that "owns" it however is not in possession of a deed. The house/land was willed to his mother by his father ' both decased' and that's as far as it goes for paperwork. He is however the last living child of his parents and for the past 15+ years that I've known him no one has ever come to "claim" the property even tho it's vacant for said amount of time. Long story short, should I just leave that as is or is there a road I could take to assist him in getting it into his name first if it's even possible before I try to aquire it from him. I really don't want to miss this opportunity but I also don't want to be back and forth for years to come before I get something solid in had when it comes to ownership.
Speaking from experience, it is possible but it would be long.
Since a will is involved, the person has to apply for his mother's estate. Once he get's the grant of probate as the Legal Personal Representative of his mom, he can then apply for his Father's estate. Once he gets the grant of probate as LPR of his father's estate, he can transfer the property from his father to himself via his mom.
This next option is tricky but conditions apply. If his father's will mentions his mother ONLY as the beneficiary, you don't have to use the will. The person just apply for Letters of Administration of his father's estate directly where in the application, it is mentioned that the mother and other children are deceased thus proving the person is in fact the next of kin and beneficiary of his father's estate. Once it is granted and he becomes LPR, he can transfer the property directly to himself.
Once the property is in his name, then both of you can deal. Don't put too much hope because he can switch on you and sell to someone else. You can advise and recommend him an attorney but at the end of the day, he have to sort out his business.
tropi_flakes wrote:Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know. He is also of age and wants to get the process rolling as he has no chick, child or parrot on a stick. When he dies that's it for the bloodline and the property. So I will try my best to assist him with the process because I know his finances will not allow him to do it on his on. Will update as time progresses.The_Honourable wrote:tropi_flakes wrote:Throwing this out here because most of yall seem level-headed. I'm currently intrested in a prime parcel of land in the east, the person that "owns" it however is not in possession of a deed. The house/land was willed to his mother by his father ' both decased' and that's as far as it goes for paperwork. He is however the last living child of his parents and for the past 15+ years that I've known him no one has ever come to "claim" the property even tho it's vacant for said amount of time. Long story short, should I just leave that as is or is there a road I could take to assist him in getting it into his name first if it's even possible before I try to aquire it from him. I really don't want to miss this opportunity but I also don't want to be back and forth for years to come before I get something solid in had when it comes to ownership.
Speaking from experience, it is possible but it would be long.
Since a will is involved, the person has to apply for his mother's estate. Once he get's the grant of probate as the Legal Personal Representative of his mom, he can then apply for his Father's estate. Once he gets the grant of probate as LPR of his father's estate, he can transfer the property from his father to himself via his mom.
This next option is tricky but conditions apply. If his father's will mentions his mother ONLY as the beneficiary, you don't have to use the will. The person just apply for Letters of Administration of his father's estate directly where in the application, it is mentioned that the mother and other children are deceased thus proving the person is in fact the next of kin and beneficiary of his father's estate. Once it is granted and he becomes LPR, he can transfer the property directly to himself.
Once the property is in his name, then both of you can deal. Don't put too much hope because he can switch on you and sell to someone else. You can advise and recommend him an attorney but at the end of the day, he have to sort out his business.
Understandable, that's the plan. Just wanted to see if anyone else had a similar experience with something like this on here and from the feedback I got even to who inboxed me I must say it gave me hope.carluva wrote:You should ensure you have an attorney advising you on this matter.
The seller should stand all costs. If you are helping with costs, you should have an agreement in place which indemnifies you. Else, you run the risk of sinking money into a "hope" and he can then sell to someone else for a better price or keep the property.tropi_flakes wrote:Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know. He is also of age and wants to get the process rolling as he has no chick, child or parrot on a stick. When he dies that's it for the bloodline and the property. So I will try my best to assist him with the process because I know his finances will not allow him to do it on his on. Will update as time progresses.The_Honourable wrote:tropi_flakes wrote:Throwing this out here because most of yall seem level-headed. I'm currently intrested in a prime parcel of land in the east, the person that "owns" it however is not in possession of a deed. The house/land was willed to his mother by his father ' both decased' and that's as far as it goes for paperwork. He is however the last living child of his parents and for the past 15+ years that I've known him no one has ever come to "claim" the property even tho it's vacant for said amount of time. Long story short, should I just leave that as is or is there a road I could take to assist him in getting it into his name first if it's even possible before I try to aquire it from him. I really don't want to miss this opportunity but I also don't want to be back and forth for years to come before I get something solid in had when it comes to ownership.
Speaking from experience, it is possible but it would be long.
Since a will is involved, the person has to apply for his mother's estate. Once he get's the grant of probate as the Legal Personal Representative of his mom, he can then apply for his Father's estate. Once he gets the grant of probate as LPR of his father's estate, he can transfer the property from his father to himself via his mom.
This next option is tricky but conditions apply. If his father's will mentions his mother ONLY as the beneficiary, you don't have to use the will. The person just apply for Letters of Administration of his father's estate directly where in the application, it is mentioned that the mother and other children are deceased thus proving the person is in fact the next of kin and beneficiary of his father's estate. Once it is granted and he becomes LPR, he can transfer the property directly to himself.
Once the property is in his name, then both of you can deal. Don't put too much hope because he can switch on you and sell to someone else. You can advise and recommend him an attorney but at the end of the day, he have to sort out his business.
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