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Re: ****the official CRICKET thread*****

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 14th, 2020, 10:34 am

Long time India aint get licks like that @ home

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Postby fokhan_96 » January 14th, 2020, 11:03 am

Licks like that... this should humble them a little.
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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 14th, 2020, 11:59 am

Depending on the next 2 games
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Postby fokhan_96 » January 14th, 2020, 2:51 pm

Better go ahead and bun that jersey yes...
Smith and Labuschagne didn't even get a chance to bat in this game

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 15th, 2020, 6:57 am

Yall think Bravo gonna make a difference today?

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 15th, 2020, 12:16 pm

U19 WC in South Africa starts this week. WI in a strong group with England and Australia with Nigeria being the 4th team.

This is a tournament that first gave the world a taste of the class players like Kohli, Amla etc.

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Postby speedmelter » January 15th, 2020, 12:45 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Yall think Bravo gonna make a difference today?


Against Ireland yea... he brings sheit to the table against any other good side

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 15th, 2020, 12:47 pm

Windies bowling first

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 15th, 2020, 1:29 pm

Bravo get ah proper welcome back....Ireland batting 90-0 in 6

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Postby bluefete » January 15th, 2020, 5:15 pm

WI get a good cut-tail from Ireland. Back to dotish, no-brain cricket as usual.

I stopped watching when Ireland had about 50/0 from about 3 overs.

I came back when match done. Plenty runs scored though. Irelnad made 208 and WI 204.

WI had NO GAME PLAN for this match. Time to drop Khary Pierre and Kesrick Williams and try someone else.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 15th, 2020, 5:21 pm

Windies took them for granted, drop Kesrick play Alzari...try Allen for Pierre...

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Postby bluefete » January 15th, 2020, 5:25 pm

I agree. But Simmons and company have to be REAL DOTISH to take Ireland for granted after they almost beat them in a 50 over match.

Could you imagine what runs teams like Australia and India would make against the WI? Maybe 300-400 in 20 overs! I see real licks coming up. We need to get some real bowlers.

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Windies took them for granted, drop Kesrick play Alzari...try Allen for Pierre...

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 15th, 2020, 5:28 pm

bluefete wrote:I agree. But Simmons and company have to be REAL DOTISH to take Ireland for granted after they almost beat them in a 50 over match.

Could you imagine what runs teams like Australia and India would make against the WI? Maybe 300-400 in 20 overs! I see real licks coming up. We need to get some real bowlers.

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Windies took them for granted, drop Kesrick play Alzari...try Allen for Pierre...


Agreed 100%...windies bowling lacks conviction..after this series windies are up against NZ and SA later in the year

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Postby speedmelter » January 15th, 2020, 8:50 pm

Bravo could have easily won that game in the last over but in his usual style he needs to end it in glamour. He even refused single in the last over lol!!! Got out right after trying to end in glory.


After bowling a piss poor first over for 18 runs he did come back well and put in some good Yorkers. The Irish were going after runs and he even managed a wicket.

As I always say cricket is way more than putting in an effort on the field and expecting victory.. just as war is.

The rottenness of the ills which take place behind the scenes and lack of brain power among those responsible for making decisions will always be a curse in pursuit of success.

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 20th, 2020, 11:24 am

In the U19 WC WI beat Australia on Saturday. First time in the competition's history (8 matches overall) they have managed that.
That game was live on ESPN Caribbean.

And they currently have England 165/8 in the 42nd over chasing 266.

This puts them well placed to move on with Nigeria the remaining team they play.

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 5th, 2020, 10:41 am

Evin Lewis and Hetmeyer dropped from the next series for failing a fitness test.
At least they didn't do like Umar Akmal last week who when he failed the fat pinch test stripped down naked and asked the trainer where is the fat.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id ... lanka-odis
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ ... J6w7M.html

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 5th, 2020, 10:43 am

lollll^, I now coming to post that...I could understand Hetmyer, but Evin??? He had some good form in the last series

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 5th, 2020, 11:03 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:lollll^, I now coming to post that...I could understand Hetmyer, but Evin??? He had some good form in the last series


Would love to know the basis of the tests. The yo-yo seems to be a widely accepted one

The Yo-Yo test was conceptualised by former Danish player and Juventus assistant coach Jens Bangsbo for footballers. According to some reports, former India coach Anil Kumble was the one who got this test introduced to the Indian cricket team. Here's what it entails:

1. The test is used to evaluate an individual’s aerobic endurance fitness.
2. The Indian cricket team regularly undergoes a series of fitness tests an ..
3. There are two versions of the test, level one for beginners and level two for advanced. The level two fitness test involves cones placed to mark out two lines, 20 meters apart. The player has to run between the lines and turn when the beep goes off.
4. The test is considered ‘stopped’ if the person fails to catch up with the pace of the beeps. The entire process is software-based and the results are recorded.
5. The same test, when used for football and hockey players, produce different results and have a higher benchmark as the speed and endurance level involved with the sports also differ.
6. While the BCCI has kept 19.5 as the par score for the players to pass the test, it was reported that Yuvraj Singh could only m to score 16, which is way below par. Virat Kohli and Manish Pandey aced the test, with a score of 19 and 19.2, according to reports.

Do our rivals also sit for a Yo-Yo test?
While India has set its score at 16.1, England and New Zealand, according to a Mirror report, have set 19 as their Yo-Yo score. Australia decided to drop it four years ago. For South Africa, it is 18.5, and for the Sri Lankans, it is 17.4. It is 17.4 for Pakistan.
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Postby abbow » February 5th, 2020, 11:53 am

Rakeem Cornwall came to mind :lol:

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Postby speedmelter » February 6th, 2020, 12:08 am

im guessing cornwall will never be able to make the west indies team

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Postby trent » February 6th, 2020, 8:02 am

speedmelter wrote:im guessing cornwall will never be able to make the west indies team

What a pity that would be considering he took 10 wickets in his last game (2nd Test vs Afg) last Nov.

Would Lewis and Hetty be considered for the T20s?
When is the next fitness test?
Lewis just got back into form after so long. :|

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Postby speedmelter » February 6th, 2020, 8:57 am

Pretty soon they gonna have a team of ultra fit players making 10-15 runs each.


They really do need fit players thinking of it because in a test match they field for like 3 days lol

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 6th, 2020, 9:21 am

Fitness is key.
The recent 5 match T20 series between India and NZ that India won 5-0 had a key statistic (apart from the two tied matches) -
New Zealand scored 13 more boundaries than India overall but couldn't win a game. Windies are also a side that like to deal in boundaries and forgo running between the wickets and usually have a lower than par score as a result because of the amount of dot balls they give. With fitness one can hope they run more.

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Postby speedmelter » February 6th, 2020, 11:14 am

Being quick between the wickets and being fit has very little to do with scoring singles and strike rotation... look at lendel Simmons , prime example, extremely poor in strike rotation, he either plays solid defensive stroke or full swing of the bat. He usually scores 80 runs off 75 balls with 8 sixes and 5 fours.

Marlon Samuels was the same thing, same with Gayle and most of the team.

Ever since Lara, Sarwan, chanderpaul days I can’t remember any West Indian batsman being good at rum accumulation via strike rotation. Maybe Shai hope.

It’s the temperament and method of batting they need to address.

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 6th, 2020, 11:33 am

speedmelter wrote:Being quick between the wickets and being fit has very little to do with scoring singles and strike rotation... look at lendel Simmons , prime example, extremely poor in strike rotation, he either plays solid defensive stroke or full swing of the bat. He usually scores 80 runs off 75 balls with 8 sixes and 5 fours.

Marlon Samuels was the same thing, same with Gayle and most of the team.

Ever since Lara, Sarwan, chanderpaul days I can’t remember any West Indian batsman being good at rum accumulation via strike rotation. Maybe Shai hope.

It’s the temperament and method of batting they need to address.


Fit in this regards refers to stamina not speed. If you do not have the stamina you will not attempt too much runs - singles, doubles etc. Yes there is an element of batting technique having to be changed to allow for stroke players to temper the need for the big shots but it remains that those that run are those able to.

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Postby bluefete » February 6th, 2020, 4:23 pm

Interesting! Raises some stunning questions.

https://guyanatimesgy.com/minimum-fitne ... QL-MrsUvVs

Minimum fitness level is 40, Cornwall and others given exemption
February 6, 2020


After Cricket West Indies (CWI) made one of the biggest calls in recent times to omit Guyanese left-handed batsman Shimron Hetmyer and the red hot opener Evin Lewis, who failed the fitness test, its Director of Cricket Jimmy Adams caught up to the local media on Wednesday at Providence and cleared the air on the fitness requirements implemented.


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Adams noted that there has always been a fitness policy in the past, but the only difference is that back in September 2018, there was a change in the coaching and selection panel and this new panel is keen on implementing this aspect in West Indies cricket.
“The minimum standard for selection is 40 in the yoyo test and players had known about it for a while, way back in 2018. Hopefully, we can get them (Lewis and Hetmyer) to that standard,” Adams explained.


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Director of Cricket Jimmy Adams (Brandon Corlette photo)

He further added that this test has been conducted at the regional (franchise) level and the response has been good statistically with most players above reaching 40 in the yoyo test.
“This test is non-negotiable, just to remind people is that the issue of getting fitter players is to reduce injury. Like John Campbelle went to Ireland and got a good score in the first One-Day International (ODI), but failed compete for the rest of the series. We cannot afford to get our best of players not being on the park, so I am looking forward for these lads to get their fitness level up where they should be,” the 52-year-old Adams highlighted.


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Rahkeem Cornwall

It is evident that some players currently in the West Indies set-up are unable to make 40 in the yoyo test. Like most rules, there are exceptions to it; Adams disclosed that the players who are unable to make this requirement are given exemptions; “through the medical panel they would be given their individual target that they will work with and they will be looking to improve. They are people who have medical issues that we have to give exemptions to because it could be ankle or knee that would impact negatively,” Adams echoed.
In this case, Rahkeem Cornwall and others are being considered but the consistency of continued improvement in the yoyo test is essential. (Brandon Corlette)


abbow wrote:Rakeem Cornwall came to mind :lol:


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speedmelter wrote:im guessing cornwall will never be able to make the west indies team

What a pity that would be considering he took 10 wickets in his last game (2nd Test vs Afg) last Nov.

Would Lewis and Hetty be considered for the T20s?
When is the next fitness test?
Lewis just got back into form after so long. :|
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Re: ****the official CRICKET thread*****

Postby Dizzy28 » February 6th, 2020, 4:42 pm

What a load of crock..............morbidly obese Cornwall gets a bligh because he morbidly obese??

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Postby bluefete » February 6th, 2020, 4:44 pm

It raises all kinds of questions.

It is either ALL have to meet the standards or there should be no exceptions.

Dizzy28 wrote:What a load of crock..............morbidly obese Cornwall gets a bligh because he morbidly obese??

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Postby trent » February 6th, 2020, 4:55 pm

Lewis in red hot form but they drop him, i feel they shoot themselves in the foot there, but we'll see how that goes, mayb he can improve on his fitness and get even better!
Same for Hetty...

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wah kinda mafia thing WICB trying to pull there

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