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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby RedVEVO » June 10th, 2022, 7:27 am

hover11 wrote:OP what's the problem here , she had the opportunity to gain an education and clearly didn't appreciate such. Let the parents spend their money and send her to a private secondary school or hire a tutor. She put herself in this position nobody is to blame. We are all held accountable for our actions for the exception of politicians :S


From the news reports - She is been taken care of by her Grand-Mother .

Sounds familiar to anyone ?


But it's sad if not frightening where the "order to expel " originated.

Just another cover up.

" .. Education Minister Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly told Thursday's post-Cabinet news conference at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann's, "The provisions of the Education Act are clear. They were followed."

This act (section 44) empowers a school principal to suspend, for one week, a student whose "gross misconduct may be considered injurious or dangerous to other students" or whose presence could have a detrimental effect on other students. The minister may extend the suspension to allow more inquiries or, after due investigation, she may order the student's reinstatement, removal to go to another school, or expulsion.” The minister's order is final, the act says. " ..

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby pugboy » June 10th, 2022, 7:30 am

she will help with the english side

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pugboy wrote:what happen to ytc and st michaels ?

worst case she could go to those vene home schools


Can she speak Spanish ?

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby hover11 » June 10th, 2022, 7:33 am

RedVEVO wrote:
hover11 wrote:OP what's the problem here , she had the opportunity to gain an education and clearly didn't appreciate such. Let the parents spend their money and send her to a private secondary school or hire a tutor. She put herself in this position nobody is to blame. We are all held accountable for our actions for the exception of politicians :S


From the news reports - She is been taken care of by her Grand-Mother .

Sounds familiar to anyone ?


But it's sad if not frightening where the "order to expel " originated.

Just another cover up.

" .. Education Minister Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly told Thursday's post-Cabinet news conference at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann's, "The provisions of the Education Act are clear. They were followed."

This act (section 44) empowers a school principal to suspend, for one week, a student whose "gross misconduct may be considered injurious or dangerous to other students" or whose presence could have a detrimental effect on other students. The minister may extend the suspension to allow more inquiries or, after due investigation, she may order the student's reinstatement, removal to go to another school, or expulsion.” The minister's order is final, the act says. " ..
Red,

We understand there is a process similar to that of disciplinary procedures for employees in the world of work but you have to remember something. This was a major offence this wasn't a minor case of truancy or loitering in the halls. This was assualt with a weapon, possession of a weapon on school grounds and intent to cause grievous bodily harm. In addition to the public scrutiny that it was under , politicians usually cave when this occurs in a manner to appease the masses, that's exactly what the minister of education did when she made the decision.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby RedVEVO » June 10th, 2022, 8:29 am

^^

Correct ! But extremely devastating to all family oriented people .

Peeps in T&T constantly have Leadership roles where the solution is to abandon the problem .
Run and hide ! It does not exist !

But NOW with the Nations's Children ?

Now we all would agree the offense was horrible .

But we are talking about a child 15 years that is highlighted in the News and politically abused and then expelled by the very peeps who articulate the finances and policies of the Nation's Schools.

The abuse continues !

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby teems1 » June 10th, 2022, 8:36 am

RedVEVO wrote:" ..National Parent Teachers Association (NPTA) president Kevin David told Newsday his association has major concerns about violence in school. However, the association wondered whether a proper investigation had been done within the given timeframe before the expulsion .. "

The stabbed student is a victim . But the girl who perpetuated the crime is also a victim .

She is apparently in a police station - She is 15 years !

Abuse !
She sliced a girl's face open. This is premeditated as she brought the knife from home.

She is a liability to the school and it's now for the parents to take over responsibility for schooling. Be it home or private institutions.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby RedVEVO » June 10th, 2022, 8:42 am

^^

She is a child that needs help .

It's that simple .

A child 15 years does not get up one morning a slice a face !

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby bluefete » June 10th, 2022, 8:43 am

teems1 wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:" ..National Parent Teachers Association (NPTA) president Kevin David told Newsday his association has major concerns about violence in school. However, the association wondered whether a proper investigation had been done within the given timeframe before the expulsion .. "

The stabbed student is a victim . But the girl who perpetuated the crime is also a victim .

She is apparently in a police station - She is 15 years !

Abuse !
She sliced a girl's face open. This is premeditated as she brought the knife from home.

She is a liability to the school and it's now for the parents to take over responsibility for schooling. Be it home or private institutions.


Teems1: Thank You. Doh study RedV - He forgot his medications so he cannot type straight today.

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Re: School chirren these days :/

Postby bluefete » June 10th, 2022, 8:45 am

This should go viral.

17K views but only 5 comments.

SMDH



https://www.facebook.com/582045353/vide ... 3891440386

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby RedVEVO » June 10th, 2022, 8:48 am

So what happen here another girl trying to burn down a school ?

Another expulsion ?

18 rescued from fire at children’s home; girl, 17, detained


https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/18-resc ... c03ed1830b

A few moments later ..

" A neighbour told Guardian Media that by the time Fire Services arrived, the blaze was contained and the 18 girls were already in a bus waiting to leave the area. Police said the girls are now at the St Dominic’s Children’s Home.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby VexXx Dogg » June 10th, 2022, 8:50 am

Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby RedVEVO » June 10th, 2022, 8:53 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.


You think the Principal/School or Supports Services or Mother of Education did not know this event ?

The Leadership has failed .

But they still getting car tax exemptions :roll:

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Postby bluefete » June 10th, 2022, 8:54 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.


I really hope that is not true because if it is some big people will have some serious questions to answer.

And do not expect the Children's Authority with their fancy Prados to answer anything.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby MaxPower » June 10th, 2022, 9:08 am

We are too sympathetic and lenient with these animals in society.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby pugboy » June 10th, 2022, 9:11 am

where that talk come out from?
i am sure it’s not the first fight for either of them

VexXx Dogg wrote:Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby teems1 » June 10th, 2022, 9:14 am

RedVEVO wrote:^^

She is a child that needs help .

It's that simple .

A child 15 years does not get up one morning a slice a face !


That's what the parents are there for.

She needs help, so let the parents provide the help.

The government isn't there to raise your child.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby VexXx Dogg » June 10th, 2022, 9:21 am

pugboy wrote:where that talk come out from?
i am sure it’s not the first fight for either of them

VexXx Dogg wrote:Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.


saw a story on FB, unable to validate.
Wondering if anyone else heard similar

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby pugboy » June 10th, 2022, 9:35 am

most of them have no real parents
they living by granny

teems1 wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:^^

She is a child that needs help .

It's that simple .

A child 15 years does not get up one morning a slice a face !


That's what the parents are there for.

She needs help, so let the parents provide the help.

The government isn't there to raise your child.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby Les Bain » June 10th, 2022, 10:04 am

My wife is in a parents group on FB which of course is reacting to this story and sharing some of their own.

So far what i'm getting is the school statements when things like this make the news is to satisfy morons. Little to nothing is done about bullies and badjohn children.

The Williamsville slasher's dad is claiming to have approached the school numerous times and nothing was done.

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Postby aaron17 » June 10th, 2022, 10:23 am

I believe there is a 'suck salt' abuse.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby Musical Doc » June 10th, 2022, 10:31 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
pugboy wrote:where that talk come out from?
i am sure it’s not the first fight for either of them

VexXx Dogg wrote:Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.


saw a story on FB, unable to validate.
Wondering if anyone else heard similar


This was actually the initial story I heard. The girl with the knife was always being bullied by the one whose face was cut. Numerous reports were done but nobody did anything, so she carried the knife with her because she was fed up and wanted to defend herself. The systems all over in trinidad is failing :(

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby MaxPower » June 10th, 2022, 10:39 am

The bully looks like a bully.

The stabber, even though she “claims” to be bullied and looking for an excuse to justify her actions, she herself was carrying on like a violent thug who lacks home training. Even if she wasn’t bullied, there is NO doubt inside me that she already have violent traits embedded in her.

These are the young aspiring upcoming pests and this is an example of their disgusting behavior.

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Re: School chirren these days :/

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 10th, 2022, 12:50 pm

Poor girl get expelled for self defense....Trinidad yes

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Postby timelapse » June 10th, 2022, 12:55 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:The minister of education said that the uptick in fights is as a result of social media, some people enjoy seeing themselves on videos on social media and as such they engage in this behaviour in the hopes of getting on there.
This is very true

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby Ripe Chenette » June 10th, 2022, 3:07 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:
pugboy wrote:where that talk come out from?
i am sure it’s not the first fight for either of them

VexXx Dogg wrote:Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.


saw a story on FB, unable to validate.
Wondering if anyone else heard similar
Hear some talk from somebody who working URP that know one of the girls family. They say they fedup make report about it to school and police. I don't doubt it, our systems only work after things have horribly escalated.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby 88sins » June 10th, 2022, 3:12 pm

Just my opinion here

In addition to the expulsion, the perpetrator and her parents should be made to foot the bill for the victims medical bills, including those for all reconstructive aesthetic procedures required as a result of the incident.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby S_2NR » June 10th, 2022, 3:41 pm

RedVEVO wrote:^^

She is a child that needs help .

It's that simple .

A child 15 years does not get up one morning a slice a face !

You can't be that naive. She is a juvenile delinquent and need to treated as such. None of this bs about she's a victim.

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby hover11 » June 10th, 2022, 3:46 pm

Basically
VexXx Dogg wrote:Is the background story true?
The slasher had over 5 police reports against the slashed?
If so, the system failed her.
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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby Les Bain » June 10th, 2022, 5:09 pm

Bunch of force ripe savages clogging up our education system and making school a hell for people who can't defend themselves and want a school to be a learning place.

If the allegation is true the victim was the bully and the slasher the bullied, I only wish the slasher used a blunt object.

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Postby 88sins » June 10th, 2022, 5:58 pm

Les Bain wrote:Bunch of force ripe savages clogging up our education system and making school a hell for people who can't defend themselves and want a school to be a learning place.

If the allegation is true the victim was the bully and the slasher the bullied, I only wish the slasher used a blunt object.


So lemme ask you this
If "the slasher" had accidentally killed "the bully", you think that the fact she was bullied would justify homicide?

Both of them did wrong, and the cause doesn't justify the action.
This is one of those scenarios where there is no win to be had, is lose/lose no matter how you slice it

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Re: More Abuse - Now NO education for T&T Children

Postby Les Bain » June 10th, 2022, 6:44 pm

88sins wrote:
Les Bain wrote:Bunch of force ripe savages clogging up our education system and making school a hell for people who can't defend themselves and want a school to be a learning place.

If the allegation is true the victim was the bully and the slasher the bullied, I only wish the slasher used a blunt object.


So lemme ask you this
If "the slasher" had accidentally killed "the bully", you think that the fact she was bullied would justify homicide?

Both of them did wrong, and the cause doesn't justify the action.
This is one of those scenarios where there is no win to be had, is lose/lose no matter how you slice it


I knew someone who felt the need to do the same, except he used a blunt object for a guy several forms above us. That was in a good school before corporal punishment was abolished so they both got appropriately punished...unlike now, where bullies and future remand yard boyfriends rule with impunity.

I'm sorry sis felt she had to resort to carrying a weapon that increased the likelihood of a homicide occuring, but I will never have a rational or mature perspective on bullying as it defined my high school experience. All I got was a smile a few weeks ago when I heard one of my bullies died horrifically.

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