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j.o.e wrote:I’m a dog lover but put it down. It’s a dog and no one can guarantee that it won’t kill again … we are certain of what it’s capable of. Put it down.
Even if the owner is at fault it doesn’t change the fact that the dog is currently dangerous.
X10000MaxPower wrote:Charge them for manslaughter and animal cruelty.
I want them feel the FULL brunt of the law and an example made out of them for all the other irresponsible Trinis.
hover11 wrote:X10000MaxPower wrote:Charge them for manslaughter and animal cruelty.
I want them feel the FULL brunt of the law and an example made out of them for all the other irresponsible Trinis.
paid_influencer wrote:i say we let the owner be mauled to death
seems fair, no?
paid_influencer wrote:is it fair tho
88sins wrote:hover11 wrote:X10000MaxPower wrote:Charge them for manslaughter and animal cruelty.
I want them feel the FULL brunt of the law and an example made out of them for all the other irresponsible Trinis.
Cool, gtk that's allyuh perspectives.
Just 2 quick question tho.
1-When ppl start to abandon these bully breeds all over the place enmasse, who allyuh gonna charge if those animals form packs and maul someone? Because when they proclaimed the act, plenty people abandoned dogs all over the place, and since they are social animals it's not far fetched to think that they will form groups, with stray mongrels and even other bullies.
2-When the irresponsible ones decide to switch breeds and you suddenly see a setta shepherds, akitas, mals, rotties, etc causing the same problem the bully breeds were blamed for, then what? Keep in mind if you add them to the list of dangerous breeds, these ppl gonna keep switching to some other breed, and the problem will continue in perpetuity. Eventually you will have to get a permit to keep a pet cockroach.
Is a slippery slope, and we walking it in soapy rubber slippers.
Just wanted to get you both opinions.
Anyway.
paid_influencer wrote:i say we let the owner be mauled to death
seems fair, no?
I could be wrong but doesn't the owner of the reside of the same premises the incident took place, meaning the dog wasn't left to roam "in public"?rollingstock wrote:paid_influencer wrote:i say we let the owner be mauled to death
seems fair, no?
Why? Was his dog loose in public?
I don't want to sound insensitive cause a child loss her life and nothing can replace that.
Why are we not focusing on the parent that left these children unattended.
Fyi the dog is still alive, I had an interaction with it, doesn't hit me as a cold blooded killer.
Dem don't want to ask that.Kill the dog, problem solved in their mind88sins wrote:Was the owner on the property or not when the incident occurred?
Was the dog secured immediately prior to the incident, and if it was, how did it get loose to cause the incident?
Were there any indicators prior to the incident that suggested that the animal was potentially a danger to the children? And did the children or their parents or the owner know that the dog was a potential danger to the children? If there was and they did, why were the children left unsupervised with the animal in the immediate vicinity?
Did the dog attack the victim on or off the owners property?
Did the victim reside there or was she an invited or uninvited guest?
If she did not live in the same houshold, did the owner of the dog know that the victim was there or not?
Who was there/supposed to be to supervise and safeguard the children? If nobody was there, why were they not there? If they were there, why did they fail to provide proper supervision and protection for the victim that resulted in the death of the victim?
Was the animal trained or intentionally conditioned to act aggressively and/or attack humans on command or by observing a specific action or behavior?
These are some of the questions that are going to have to be answered.
88sins wrote:Was the owner on the property or not when the incident occurred?
Was the dog secured immediately prior to the incident, and if it was, how did it get loose to cause the incident?
Were there any indicators prior to the incident that suggested that the animal was potentially a danger to the children? And did the children or their parents or the owner know that the dog was a potential danger to the children? If there was and they did, why were the children left unsupervised with the animal in the immediate vicinity?
Did the dog attack the victim on or off the owners property?
Did the victim reside there or was she an invited or uninvited guest?
If she did not live in the same houshold, did the owner of the dog know that the victim was there or not?
Who was there/supposed to be to supervise and safeguard the children? If nobody was there, why were they not there? If they were there, why did they fail to provide proper supervision and protection for the victim that resulted in the death of the victim?
Was the animal trained or intentionally conditioned to act aggressively and/or attack humans on command or by observing a specific action or behavior?
These are some of the questions that are going to have to be answered.
paid_influencer wrote:
ALL of those things are the owner's responsibility to prevent from happening. ALL
If the owner cannot make those assurances, he should not have gotten a controlled breed.
Owner needs to face consequences or this will continue and more children will die
Paid is clearly a cat personrollingstock wrote:Wolf not named in the dangerous dog act.
Nice, I can have that as a pet. Gonna name him fluffy Luffy foo foo
paid_influencer wrote:why d rass you calling it a pet? you so dotish you don't realize that is in no way a pet? it is a dangerous animal, even defined in law as such. you hadda be dotish or willfully cruntish to calling that a pet.
if you, for whatever god damn reason, want to keep that animal on your premises, you are responsible for it. there is no divine right to keep an animal like that on your premises. WE allow YOU to keep that animal under the condition you are responsible for it and all its actions. If it kill somebody, YOU are responsible for that.
If you not comfortable with that, do not have that animal on your premises. simple. it real basic. even dotish people who think that animal is a pet could understand that