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Do you think Abortion should be legalised?

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No
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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby 88sins » January 12th, 2022, 10:14 am

mero wrote:Men should be the last to have any say far less the final decision on abortion/rights unless it's literally your child you trying to save.

Abortion as itself is already a physical, mental and emotion trauma on the woman.

Most men don't even have the balls to go with the woman to the side street doctors to accompany them.


can't say I entirely agree with this eh.
men should have an input, but only because she didn't play hopscotch by herself to get pregnant. it's his kid too, and he needs to have an input because he might want the offspring (argument against abortion), or he may not be financially or mentally ready for it and eventually cause the potential infant more unintentional harm than good (argument for abortion).
either way, the choice really should only be up to the soon-to-be parents, because either way, it affects them the most directly.


& before cyatastrophe jump een & say 'it affects the unborn infant the most because yuh killin it & robbing it of the chance to live', if done very early into the pregnancy where the embryo hasn't developed a CNS yet and it is not a conscious entity, it feels neither any positive nor negative stimuli, thus it cannot experience painful physical or psychological effects of the procedure.
Technically at that stage it's more akin to a tumor, in that it's a rapidly replicating & differentiating mass of cells deriving all its sustenance for growth and development from the female carrying it, the primary difference being that if left alone those cells will differentiate and eventually form a small human with a CNS.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby Zeppy » January 12th, 2022, 10:27 am

Can anyone recommend a doctor?

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby The_Honourable » January 12th, 2022, 10:59 am

Zeppy wrote:Can anyone recommend a doctor?


You would not get that info on public forums, hopefully someone will pm you and give guidance.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby Zeppy » January 12th, 2022, 11:34 am

The_Honourable wrote:
Zeppy wrote:Can anyone recommend a doctor?


You would not get that info on public forums, hopefully someone will pm you and give guidance.



Cool. That makes sense. Thanks.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby justheretoreadthecomments » January 12th, 2022, 11:46 am

j.o.e wrote:Legal or not it gonna happen. It’sTrinidad


All the more reason to legalize it- so that you can regulate it. Doctors have been performing abortions despite it being illegal, so why not regulate it so that persons who may need to terminate a pregnancy (example, when the pregnancy is a threat to the mother's heath) can do so in a safe manner?

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby 88sins » January 12th, 2022, 12:36 pm

justheretoreadthecomments wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Legal or not it gonna happen. It’sTrinidad


All the more reason to legalize it- so that you can regulate it. Doctors have been performing abortions despite it being illegal, so why not regulate it so that persons who may need to terminate a pregnancy (example, when the pregnancy is a threat to the mother's heath) can do so in a safe manner?

because this is a nation of functional idiots where the average persons IQ score is barely a 1, who enjoy being governed by a few dozen short sighted mindless table-thumping over-dressed eternally braying jackasses

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby bluefete » January 12th, 2022, 3:17 pm

88sins wrote:& before cyatastrophe jump een & say 'it affects the unborn infant the most because yuh killin it & robbing it of the chance to live', if done very early into the pregnancy where the embryo hasn't developed a CNS yet and it is not a conscious entity, it feels neither any positive nor negative stimuli, thus it cannot experience painful physical or psychological effects of the procedure.
Technically at that stage it's more akin to a tumor, in that it's a rapidly replicating & differentiating mass of cells deriving all its sustenance for growth and development from the female carrying it, the primary difference being that if left alone those cells will differentiate and eventually form a small human with a CNS.


Nah, sins, I don't agree with this AT ALL!

How does a doctor know when life begins? To say that an embryo cannot feel pain is how abortionists try to justify abortion.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby The_Honourable » January 12th, 2022, 4:37 pm

Zeppy just ask one question... beatup ensues

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby De Dragon » January 12th, 2022, 4:49 pm

So wait, all this rape talk and no one mentioned incest as yet?

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby 88sins » January 12th, 2022, 5:43 pm

bluefete wrote:
88sins wrote:& before cyatastrophe jump een & say 'it affects the unborn infant the most because yuh killin it & robbing it of the chance to live', if done very early into the pregnancy where the embryo hasn't developed a CNS yet and it is not a conscious entity, it feels neither any positive nor negative stimuli, thus it cannot experience painful physical or psychological effects of the procedure.
Technically at that stage it's more akin to a tumor, in that it's a rapidly replicating & differentiating mass of cells deriving all its sustenance for growth and development from the female carrying it, the primary difference being that if left alone those cells will differentiate and eventually form a small human with a CNS.


Nah, sins, I don't agree with this AT ALL!

How does a doctor know when life begins? To say that an embryo cannot feel pain is how abortionists try to justify abortion.

Don't get this wrong. I never said that it wasn't alive, because it is. It consumes nutrients and oxygen, and grows. So it is alive. What it's not is conscious and self aware, one needs a brain/mind for that, and there's no evidence that an early stage embryo has a developed and functional brain.
A malignant tumor also consumes nutrients and oxygen, and is full of living rapidly replicating cells, much just like an early stage embryo or zygote. Yet you dont see people clamoring to leave those to develop fully. The aim with those is total eradication as soon as possible and ensuring that it doesn't start back growing.


The key is to look at it from an objective, practical, logic based standpoint bai.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby Zeppy » January 13th, 2022, 8:11 am

Does a hot guiness really work? (I haven’t received any PMs for any recommended doctors).

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby bluefete » January 13th, 2022, 8:16 am

Zeppy wrote:Does a hot guiness really work? (I haven’t received any PMs for any recommended doctors).


If yuh get the girl preggos, MAN-UP to your duties as a father and stop looking to kill the child. and damage the lady.

Yuh didn't study child before insertion?

Real people would be happy to adopt.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby timelapse » January 13th, 2022, 8:18 am

De Dragon wrote:So wait, all this rape talk and no one mentioned incest as yet?
Some incest is voluntary.Check Tobago

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby bluefete » January 13th, 2022, 8:21 am

timelapse wrote:
De Dragon wrote:So wait, all this rape talk and no one mentioned incest as yet?
Some incest is voluntary.Check Tobago


BRUTAL.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby redmanjp » January 13th, 2022, 12:55 pm

justheretoreadthecomments wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Legal or not it gonna happen. It’sTrinidad


All the more reason to legalize it- so that you can regulate it. Doctors have been performing abortions despite it being illegal, so why not regulate it so that persons who may need to terminate a pregnancy (example, when the pregnancy is a threat to the mother's heath) can do so in a safe manner?


as far as i know, it is allowed if the mother's life is in danger.

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Re: Legalising Abortion.

Postby bluefete » January 13th, 2022, 1:34 pm

redmanjp wrote:
justheretoreadthecomments wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Legal or not it gonna happen. It’sTrinidad


All the more reason to legalize it- so that you can regulate it. Doctors have been performing abortions despite it being illegal, so why not regulate it so that persons who may need to terminate a pregnancy (example, when the pregnancy is a threat to the mother's heath) can do so in a safe manner?


as far as i know, it is allowed if the mother's life is in danger.


That is NOT in the law (afaik).

Pg.19, #'s 56 and 57

https://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/A ... /11.08.pdf

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