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I understand what you are trying to say.... But.... All audio goes through processing of some kind... Unless you are Live for the performance. Any voice recording has to pass through a microphone before it becomes an audio signal, which is then processed (I am using this term a bit loosely as I'm not a sound engineer) before being reproduced on any medium or device.EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Any sort of audio processing is always a gimmick, I recently bought a Sennheiser Jubile 58X from Massdrop and I have concluded that this is about the limit of the human hearing. It basically sounds just like a Sennheiser HD 660
As I played Hunt Showdown and I tried all sorts of Dolby Processing options in my sound card it became apparent that the sound stage is best and most accurate when everything is turned off. Again reinforcing the point made by every audiophile that all processing is a gimmick and makes the audio sound worse and not how it was intended to sound.
When you have proper high end headphones you then appreciate the natural true recording of music and you would never use a gaming headset or processing ever in your life again.
If you are on a budget buy from Massdrop, or get the Audio Technicas from Amazon, do not ever buy gaming headsets or dolby headsets you will be wasting your money on marketing gimmicks. If a mic is your issue then buy a attachable mod mic
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:This isn't true about people fooling themselves, yes people fool themselves with things like hundred dollar cable etc. But generally there is a noticeable difference when comparing things like high quality DAC for example sometimes you are not looking for a DAC that is cleaner than your current DAC but you are infact looking for a DAC that is brighter or more forward than your current DAC. In my case I like darker more laid back expansive sound which is why I only use open back sennheiser like the Jubilee 58X / HD 660 and why I have stuck with my Asus Xonar sound card even though it doesn't use burr brown DAC I do not like the sound signature of burr brown I prefer cirrus logic
Onboard audio is horrible I have tested this multiple times, a cheap Asus Xonar DG sound card is far superior than any onboard DAC built into your mother board and no those fancy onboard DAC with the expensive gold capacitors for audio isn't good either.
But offcourse you need good headphones to hear the difference, any $100 USD headphone can tell the difference between onboard and a good quality DAC / Headphone Amp.
The $85 to $100 USD price point is the cut off point for noticeable difference in headphones for most people. There is a small upgrade from my HD 555 to my Jubile 58X and HD 660 even though the HD 660 is $450 USD and the HD 555 was $95 USD. The question is does this huge diminishing return worth it for you? for me yup all the way cause the Jubile is only $150 USD which happens to be a HD 660.
headphones below the $85 price point are generally very bad for what you get with the exception of the old phillips shp 9500 which is now discontinued.
If you listen to pink floyd and other great quality artists you will understand the importance of audiophile and only then you will appreciate it. This cannot be appreciated with any music especially modern pop music which is just trash overall.
kamakazi wrote:Apparently, you never checked the links I posted.
I feel you confused Effectic. Cause your definition of audiophile and the dictionary definition of audiophile are different.
Now you talking about perfect and unique sound signature. It is about audio reproduction.
If you want to believe you are an audiophile, you go right ahead....keep telling yourself what you want to justify your purchase
But please don't say that processed audio is a gimmick...because it is all processed unless you were there
Your perfect and unique sound signature is something that you generated based on the components of your system; that is why i said that people that call themselves audiophiles or believe themselves audiophiles are fooling themselves.
todd61 wrote:Gaming headsets i have used is
Logitech Wireless G930 (my current headset) very good sound for gaming in 7.1
Logitech G35 wired headset (owned it but broke it in a stupid way)
Logitech F540 wireless (used a friend own)
I want to try a astro a50 wireless headset heard it very good
kamakazi wrote:
Blaze d Chalice wrote:I mean under 10 is still clear and not muddy.
The lowest I can certainly hear is 4Hz.
At 3 nah.
On this veedio at least
And I don't really have something to compare it to at the moment.
Planars are not really recommended for thing like rock.
More for electronic/rap etc.
But rock/metal still sounded good.
I wasn't too sure what to look for to say it sound 'bad'
But as mentioned Mids are not the best.
Also Manufacturer recommends 150 hours for "burn-in" but I hardly get time to use it and is a bit on the larger/heavier side so can't really carry it around.
And there is another one called HiFiMan 400 or something. I was going for that, but all reviews said the build was very cheap and falling apart in short time.
Soundstream_626 wrote:Nobody can hear this low. if your hearing is perfect you may hear 20ish. Sub 20hz is felt, if you are convinced you're hearing something it may be harmonics from the signal or induced by the electronics.Blaze d Chalice wrote:I mean under 10 is still clear and not muddy.
The lowest I can certainly hear is 4Hz.
At 3 nah.
On this veedio at least
And I don't really have something to compare it to at the moment.
Planars are not really recommended for thing like rock.
More for electronic/rap etc.
But rock/metal still sounded good.
I wasn't too sure what to look for to say it sound 'bad'
But as mentioned Mids are not the best.
Also Manufacturer recommends 150 hours for "burn-in" but I hardly get time to use it and is a bit on the larger/heavier side so can't really carry it around.
And there is another one called HiFiMan 400 or something. I was going for that, but all reviews said the build was very cheap and falling apart in short time.
Blaze d Chalice wrote:I mean under 10 is still clear and not muddy.
The lowest I can certainly hear is 4Hz.
At 3 nah.
On this veedio at least
And I don't really have something to compare it to at the moment.
Planars are not really recommended for thing like rock.
More for electronic/rap etc.
But rock/metal still sounded good.
I wasn't too sure what to look for to say it sound 'bad'
But as mentioned Mids are not the best.
Also Manufacturer recommends 150 hours for "burn-in" but I hardly get time to use it and is a bit on the larger/heavier side so can't really carry it around.
And there is another one called HiFiMan 400 or something. I was going for that, but all reviews said the build was very cheap and falling apart in short time.
Have one.casper wrote:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011UB9CQ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=A1J7WSBJHTGUFA&psc=1
anyone familiar with these?
That sounds like a user controlled limit; what I am getting at is that you can't lock the device to play only up to the 45dcb level... What is preventing your son from turning it up if and when he wants to.Redman wrote:Thank you kamakazi
I've seen on Amazon some that say they limit to 45dcb.
Which based on what ive read is a safe level.
Redman wrote:Well I'm more concerned about protecting his hearing than the quality of sound.
He is 9so he isn't an audiophile
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