***The Official 2021 Formula 1 season thread***

[MG Man]

starting to wonder if I wasted my money on the F1 video subscription
Managed to doze of at some point for every race this season. Yeah yesterday had an EPIC start but after that.....moments here and there
Doesn't matter if it's Merc, red cars, or RBR, once your car is good, it's hard to not win if you're out front (unless your're either Ferrari, in which case your team strategist will cockit up royally)
Tough beans for Bottas...if he had gotten a good start, he'd have won

[Monk BANzai]

Stappen is erratic and dangerous.
Hes a fantastic driver and has a terrific future..but hes got to learn to control himself first.

as opposed to what.... purposeful (and face it..idiotic towards his teammates) like Senna was? lol...

[Monk BANzai]

hmmm Fernando...the New Pastor?

[kamakazi]

hmmm Fernando...the New Pastor?

Just finding the limits...

[Dizzy28]

Niki Lauda has passed away. Not creating a new thread but maybe one may be needed.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... es-aged-70

[hydroep]

Rush...R.I.P.

[janfar]

Lauda deserves his own thread on here.

[bluefete]

Monaco Grand Prix results - Just Finished:

1) Hamilton

2) Verstappen (Will not be on podium due to some penalty)

3) Vettel

4) Bottas

So officially - Hamilton, Vettel and Bottas

Real close at the end.

[kamakazi]

Monaco Grand Prix results - Just Finished:

1) Hamilton

2) Verstappen (Will not be on podium due to some penalty)

3) Vettel

4) Bottas

So officially - Hamilton, Vettel and Bottas

Real close at the end.

Good race

Verstappen got a penalty for unsafe release into Bottas

[antlind]

Monaco Grand Prix results - Just Finished:

1) Hamilton

2) Verstappen (Will not be on podium due to some penalty)

3) Vettel

4) Bottas

So officially - Hamilton, Vettel and Bottas

Real close at the end.

Basically a Congo line and a race between Hamilton and his tire wear. Monaco is one boring circuit.

[teems1]

Cars too wide, track too narrow, not enough straights or overtaking points.

Only reason it's on the calendar is because of it's history.

[kamakazi]

I actually enjoy the Monaco Grand Prix... It is one of the few tracks where the line between getting it right and wrong is so narrow and it severely punishes mistakes.

[antlind]

I actually enjoy the Monaco Grand Prix... It is one of the few tracks where the line between getting it right and wrong is so narrow and it severely punishes mistakes.

Leclerc is an example. But the downside is that no one wants to make bold moves due to the likelihood of taking themselves and/or a competitor out of the race.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[maj. tom]

I have always wondered about the eye-level view F1 drivers have, rather than a top-helmet cam. They're using Visor Cam now.
They were testing it on the Monaco track last year.



Interesting with the steering controls: when he puts it on "fuel saving mode," the max speed is limited to 200km/h.
Display also shows number of laps and gear. 66 laps in Barcelona (305km/4.655km). It also adjusts to "Pit Limiter" of 60km/h when he enters that area.

[Monk BANzai]

I actually enjoy the Monaco Grand Prix... It is one of the few tracks where the line between getting it right and wrong is so narrow and it severely punishes mistakes.

Leclerc is an example. But the downside is that no one wants to make bold moves due to the likelihood of taking themselves and/or a competitor out of the race.

He was making good progress....if he'd only waited a few laps and see Hulkenberg's line he wudnt have ended up where he did...pity..

yute have real potential. him vs Verstappen in the future is a thing. A thing i'd like to see.

hammy drove his live strings out tho... lol many would say it was akin to the 1992 battle with Senna and Mansell... but simpleton me still rate's Sennas drive over Hammy's cuz the cars were smaller and much more of a thing to handle.

I eh like the guy. But Verstappen is the future. Accept it.

[janfar]

In any other race Verstappen Vettel and Bottas would have sailed pass Hamilton with his bad tires but Monaco being Monaco they had no chance.

The most critical part of the race happened in the pits. Makes for bad viewing.

[Monk BANzai]

basically the Canadian GP wrapped up. Personally is bollocks...normel racing incident. But it shows one thing: Under pressure Seb cyar handle it no more......last year with Danny Ric, with Max Vee, by himself ...lol...





But ferrari is blisteringly quick on the straights.... even tho Hammie was hammering it through the corners

[janfar]

I think with Stroll's engine failure Merc would have been on the cautious side of running the engine at max. They pulled a professor (Prost) and was lucky in the end to get the win.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Personally is bollocks...normel racing incident.

The stewards made a sh!t decision there.

[worksux101]

Pretty much everyone agrees the decision was nonsense except FIA and Merc fans.

The bias is unreal, from illegal tyre testing to decisions like this.
Similar to the pro Ferrari era from 00-04, and then anti-Ferrari era when FA won the following 2 years. Sad

[teems1]

Personally is bollocks...normel racing incident.

The stewards made a sh!t decision there.

5 second penalty too harsh imo and killed the race right there.

Vettel did have an off/on where all his 4 wheels when off track, he did rejoin and "push" Lewis off track. Lewis had to brake on the racing line and was unable to capitalize of Vettek's error, but I still think the 5 second penalty was too harsh.

What Vettel should have done, is give up P1 immediately to Lewis, and after 3 corners, try to overtake him. That way everyone wins.

[Monk BANzai]

I'm a merc fan and found it to be Tewse... They killing racing...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14399 ... y-decision

A second steering wheel input from Sebastian Vettel after he regained control of his Ferrari Formula 1 car was pivotal in his Canadian Grand Prix penalty.

The Montreal F1 stewards ruled that Vettel had rejoined the track in an unsafe manner following his error at the first chicane with 22 laps to go and forced Lewis Hamilton off the circuit.

The five-second penalty imposed for the incident meant Vettel lost what would have been his and Ferrari's first win of the 2019 F1 season to Hamilton.

Vettel was adamant he had done nothing wrong, and said he had been powerless in the situation because his car was out of control after running over the grass.

But while it is clear from on board footage that Vettel was battling to control his car as he bounced off the grass onto the circuit again, it is understood that the stewards' decision was based on Vettel's actions at the point he had effectively recovered from the incident.

The stewards examined slow motion footage of Vettel's actions from the moment that he had regained control and started steering his car - and felt the evidence showed that he could have made different choices that would have been within the rules.

The footage clearly captures Vettel correcting an oversteer moment as he rejoins the track - which is shown by a sharp steering wheel movement to the right.

Shortly after that, Vettel has sorted the oversteer and begins steering to the left to follow the direction of the circuit - suggesting he is now under control.

But a split moment later, rather than keeping to the left, Vettel is shown to release the steering wheel - which allows his car to drift to the right, cutting off the route that Hamilton would have taken had he had clear space.

[worksux101]

Except analysis by actual racers showed he was merely correcting oversteer again after the rear of his car bumped over the curb and onto the track.
Also, when he got back onto the track he was not side by side with Hamilton yet, and Hamilton put all 4 tyres off the white line thus himself being off the track, so by a technicality he has no right to pass there either. Chainbear or one of those guys did a really good rundown on it.

Its just a farce at the end of the day and F1 pays the price. And we thought post-Bernie things would improve lol

[Monk BANzai]

Except analysis by actual racers showed he was merely correcting oversteer again after the rear of his car bumped over the curb and onto the track.
Also, when he got back onto the track he was not side by side with Hamilton yet, and Hamilton put all 4 tyres off the white line thus himself being off the track, so by a technicality he has no right to pass there either. Chainbear or one of those guys did a really good rundown on it.

Its just a farce at the end of the day and F1 pays the price. And we thought post-Bernie things would improve lol

Exactly... Hamilton cudve gone left and left Seb with no choice but to keep right and drag race to the next corner...

But meem no race car jivver...

[teems1]

To say the stewards are not real racers is a disservice to them. Emanuele Pirro won Le Mans 5 times and was on the podium another 4.

Everyone is outraged but the real symptom is the dominance of one team. Fans just wanted any other team to win.

If the results so far were 3 Merc and 3 Ferrari wins the outrage today would not have been so much.

[16 cycles]

makes me appreciate motogp more...

[worksux101]

To say the stewards are not real racers is a disservice to them. Emanuele Pirro won Le Mans 5 times and was on the podium another 4.

Everyone is outraged but the real symptom is the dominance of one team. Fans just wanted any other team to win.

If the results so far were 3 Merc and 3 Ferrari wins the outrage today would not have been so much.

Disagree. Its also unfair to single Pirro as its a team of stewards that make the decision.

Brundle, Button, Buxton, Mansell etc are openly proclaimed Ham fans, and yet have all leapt to the immediate defense of Vettel.

[src1983]

That section way to narrow for such a decision