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That 80 million,or even a billion does no good in the hands of the poor.Phone Surgeon wrote:Burroughs supposedly use to eradicate competition
just like a few high level police we have currently
looking in from the outside...yuh might say corruption is corruption is corruption
but when you in them fellas position, and corruption is the game they dealing with
is either you in or you out
and if you use the ill gotten money to benefit the poor and the citizens at large....then are you a bad person?
if you "steal" or "receive" 100 million from a corrupt organisation and then you spend 80mil to uplift and benefit poor people
are you a bad person? yes you pocket 20mil for yourself.
but the good deeds that 80mil do.....that never would have been done.....
death365 wrote:there have been stories that Jack have info on almost all politicians including high up current officials/ministers.
if i was he ... i woulda start bussing mark left right and centre.- press conferences
timelapse wrote:That 80 million,or even a billion does no good in the hands of the poor.Phone Surgeon wrote:Burroughs supposedly use to eradicate competition
just like a few high level police we have currently
looking in from the outside...yuh might say corruption is corruption is corruption
but when you in them fellas position, and corruption is the game they dealing with
is either you in or you out
and if you use the ill gotten money to benefit the poor and the citizens at large....then are you a bad person?
if you "steal" or "receive" 100 million from a corrupt organisation and then you spend 80mil to uplift and benefit poor people
are you a bad person? yes you pocket 20mil for yourself.
but the good deeds that 80mil do.....that never would have been done.....
They will either
spend it in the businesses of the rich
Invest it in the businesses of the rich
Or save it in the banks of the rich.
The rich win either way.
And is still ill gotten money from the poison that Dole used to peddle for Pablo Escobar.
Coke money is blood money.
I rather be starving than get a cut of that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case
In 2015, U.S. federal prosecutors disclosed cases of corruption by officials and associates connected with the Fédération internationale de Football Association (FIFA), the governing body of association football, futsal and beach soccer.
Near the end of May 2015, fourteen people were indicted in connection with an investigation by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) into wire fraud, racketeering, and money laundering. The United States Attorney General simultaneously announced the unsealing of the indictments and the prior guilty pleas by four football executives and two corporations.
The investigation revolved around collusion between officials of continental football bodies CONMEBOL (South America) and CONCACAF (Caribbean, Central and North America), and sports marketing executives. The sports marketing executives were holders of media and marketing rights for high-profile international competitions including the Americas' FIFA World Cup qualifying tournaments, and showpiece tournaments CONCACAF Gold Cup and Copa América.
CONCACAF President Jeffrey Webb, also serving president of the Cayman Islands Football Association, was arrested in connection with the investigation, as were two sitting FIFA Executive Committee members: Eduardo Li of the Costa Rican Football Federation and Eugenio Figueredo, formerly of the Uruguayan Football Association, and former CONMEBOL President Nicolás Leoz. The investigation lasted several years, with the first arrest, of former CONCACAF president Jack Warner's son Daryll, made in July 2013.[1][2]
In total, seven then-current FIFA officials were arrested at the Hotel Baur au Lac in Zürich on 27 May. They were preparing to attend the 65th FIFA Congress, which was scheduled to include the election of the president of FIFA.[3] They were expected to be extradited to the United States on suspicion of receiving US$150 million in bribes.[3] There was also a simultaneous raid on the CONCACAF headquarters in Miami,[4] and later, two further men handed themselves in to police for arrest: Jack Warner and marketing executive Alejandro Burzaco.[5][6] Two further arrests of FIFA officials at the hotel occurred in December 2015.[7]
death365 wrote:there have been stories that Jack have info on almost all politicians including high up current officials/ministers.
if i was he ... i woulda start bussing mark left right and centre.- press conferences
alfa wrote:death365 wrote:there have been stories that Jack have info on almost all politicians including high up current officials/ministers.
if i was he ... i woulda start bussing mark left right and centre.- press conferences
Ent GG claiming the same thing to, so far is just some hot air about hinds and ful. Most likely jack may be dead before he make a jail, man is 78 inno
maj. tom wrote:One should note that the FBI builds a really strong case and covers loopholes well before they ever reach arrest and court. Federal prosecutors have an over 95% conviction rate when the FBI is involved. Unless he has something to trade with the AG to stay out of prison, don't be fooled that the FBI and the USA federal courts are like Trinidad's accepted corruption culture and case calling next 20 years.
Their lives are not improved in any way that is worthwhile.Phone Surgeon wrote:timelapse wrote:That 80 million,or even a billion does no good in the hands of the poor.Phone Surgeon wrote:Burroughs supposedly use to eradicate competition
just like a few high level police we have currently
looking in from the outside...yuh might say corruption is corruption is corruption
but when you in them fellas position, and corruption is the game they dealing with
is either you in or you out
and if you use the ill gotten money to benefit the poor and the citizens at large....then are you a bad person?
if you "steal" or "receive" 100 million from a corrupt organisation and then you spend 80mil to uplift and benefit poor people
are you a bad person? yes you pocket 20mil for yourself.
but the good deeds that 80mil do.....that never would have been done.....
They will either
spend it in the businesses of the rich
Invest it in the businesses of the rich
Or save it in the banks of the rich.
The rich win either way.
And is still ill gotten money from the poison that Dole used to peddle for Pablo Escobar.
Coke money is blood money.
I rather be starving than get a cut of that.
kinda senseless argument you have there
its the rich that have businesses, that import goods, that build houses, that provide services.
so if the poor get fed and lives get improved......then they come out better than before not so?
My point exactly.No amount of free money will improve their lives in any significant way.Phone Surgeon wrote:besides just being taught to do something, you have to have the drive and ambition to do it
most persons dont have that ambition, whether they get the opportunity or not
toyolink wrote:The USA desire to police FIFA has always seemed peculiar to me.
At the end of the day all concerned are way above 'my pay grade'.
When Trump come back Jack probably will get amnesty.
MaxPower wrote:What Jackie sons doing though? Living off and investing from corruption money?
Too shameful yes
Jack was UNC. That's why they hate him.If he was a regular PNM ole tief it wouldn't be a problem.VII wrote:Jack cpulda make a deal long time ans be a free man like many other, all the US wants to do is win..but having said that Jack would die here before setting foot on a any plane to the USA.
Repeat after me , "Jack isn't going to the USA and would die in T&T first " .
Jack was just one member of a very corrupt international organization and liek everyone else leveraged it to his benefit and the benefit of others too, corruption has been FIFA's culture for ages and peaked under Havalange and continued under Blatter.
Personally I will get no pleasure from seeing old man Jack extradited to die in a foreign jail, what Jack do some allyuh so ?
To his credit Jacks name never featured in corruption regarding T&T tresury money. What's the latest on Steve and Ish's extraditions btw ?
Jack's going nowhere one way or another.
Phone Surgeon wrote:maj. tom wrote:One should note that the FBI builds a really strong case and covers loopholes well before they ever reach arrest and court. Federal prosecutors have an over 95% conviction rate when the FBI is involved. Unless he has something to trade with the AG to stay out of prison, don't be fooled that the FBI and the USA federal courts are like Trinidad's accepted corruption culture and case calling next 20 years.
Jeffrey Webb, disgraced former FIFA vice president, and CONCACAF and Cayman Islands Football Association president, still has not been sentenced six years after he was arrested in Zürich, Switzerland for his involvement in a global football corruption scandal.
Today (27 May) marked six years since Webb was first arrested. He later pleaded guilty to seven charges including racketeering, wire fraud and money laundering. Webb, however, has successfully petitioned US courts to postpone his sentencing 11 times. Most recently, Webb was due to be sentenced on 22 March in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York but that has been adjourned to 7 Dec.
Webb, who is now banned for life from FIFA, was a key player in the case that now involves more than 40 former high-ranking officials in world football’s governing body.
Webb has not returned to his native Cayman Islands since his arrest and the sentencing postponements have prevented Cayman Islands authorities from seeking his extradition in relation to another ongoing legal matter.
Webb has agreed to pay multiple fines totalling US$6.7 million.
okie dokie
timelapse wrote:Jack was UNC. That's why they hate him.If he was a regular PNM ole tief it wouldn't be a problem.VII wrote:Jack coulda make a deal long time ans be a free man like many others, all the US wants to do is win..but having said that Jack would die here before setting foot on a any plane to the USA.
Repeat after me , "Jack isn't going to the USA and would die in T&T first " .
Jack was just one member of a very corrupt international organization and like everyone else leveraged it to his benefit and the benefit of others too, corruption has been FIFA's culture for ages and peaked under Havalange and continued under Blatter.
Personally I will get no pleasure from seeing old man Jack extradited to die in a foreign jail, what Jack do some allyuh so ?
To his credit Jack's name never featured in corruption regarding T&T treasury money. What's the latest on Steve and Ish's extraditions btw ?
Jack's going nowhere one way or another.
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