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Sorry I forgot you on the Bailiser full time pay roll for bloggingRedman wrote:zoom rader wrote:You are using your Employer internet and PC equipment for your personal gain.Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman is one of those, as we know he spends his goverment working time on Tuner posting propaganda.daxt0r wrote:i surprise they ent target TTEC first given the amount of skilled mamoo workers there.
The funny part is that the state of WASA was shocking to the honorable minister, every state company and board is filled with incompetent PNM stooges, this is common knowledge, like he head in the sand since he born or wa rofl.
This is how productive red Goverment supporters and bloggers are.
Redman is supposed to be working but he's on tuner and FB
But Zoombindranath- how could you say responding to your insightful posts is non productive?
Im hurt.
You are stealing time at your employers work place by spending all day on tuner posting propaganda .
You are a criminal by defrauding your employer
Thats OK Zoombindranath- i spend plenty extra hours doing what needs to be done so it works out-its not a 9-5.
However my employer thanks you for your concerns.
This is stealing from your Employer and you are a dishonest employee
You are a Criminal, but that's expected with red Goverment people.
No boy I working from home...and for myself for the last 15 years about....
Why does my situation concern you?
You're attention is comforting though.
Redman wrote:I’m not stuck on any one.
But if a loan was disbursed to fix WASA, and it wasn’t done...we can’t speak about it?
Why don’t you answer the question: UNC borrowed money and didn’t fix it, they had more money than ever ...but here we are ..with all the long term intractable problems untouched....and proof that they were exacerbated 2010-2015.
Why not do something when oil was in the 90s
Fact remains...WASA is where it is because successive govts did not do what was necessary...because of the political backlash, maybe to keep the bobol in place.
We see this with Petrotrin, WASA and TTEC.
You keep harping on 3 letters as if it matters.
Redman wrote:No I expect money that was borrowed to reduce wasa staff levels to be used to reduce wasa staff levels.
When UNC went in wasa had 20% less staff than when they left.
Can you explain that?
250M usd loan...yet here we are
You play Fortnite?
Redman wrote:I did.
Instead of continuing to expend your time making up childish names...especially since you profess to be a retired man of the world, you should use your capacity to read.
I linked the loan doc....it shows the restructuring of staff.
You then can find for yourself where wasa took the loan.
Gerard Kangalee writes...
IDB) for the ongoing Waste Water Rehabilitation Project. US$50 million of that loan is for the re-organization of WASA. According to the IDB, the plan is to “decrease the number of employees per 1,000 connections from 12.5 in 2011 to 5.8 in 2016.” This means that more
http://www.workersunion.org.tt/where-we ... rykangalee.
zoom rader wrote:Redman wrote:I did.
Instead of continuing to expend your time making up childish names...especially since you profess to be a retired man of the world, you should use your capacity to read.
I linked the loan doc....it shows the restructuring of staff.
You then can find for yourself where wasa took the loan.
Gerard Kangalee writes...
IDB) for the ongoing Waste Water Rehabilitation Project. US$50 million of that loan is for the re-organization of WASA. According to the IDB, the plan is to “decrease the number of employees per 1,000 connections from 12.5 in 2011 to 5.8 in 2016.” This means that more
http://www.workersunion.org.tt/where-we ... rykangalee.
Kant
You post a red government Trade union paper ?
Ni66er please, is this Joke?
You really expect tuners to take edvedence from a Red goverment propaganda Trade union ?Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redman wrote:I did.
Instead of continuing to expend your time making up childish names...especially since you profess to be a retired man of the world, you should use your capacity to read.
I linked the loan doc....it shows the restructuring of staff.
You then can find for yourself where wasa took the loan.
Gerard Kangalee writes...
IDB) for the ongoing Waste Water Rehabilitation Project. US$50 million of that loan is for the re-organization of WASA. According to the IDB, the plan is to “decrease the number of employees per 1,000 connections from 12.5 in 2011 to 5.8 in 2016.” This means that more
http://www.workersunion.org.tt/where-we ... rykangalee.
Kant
You post a red government Trade union paper ?
Ni66er please, is this Joke?
No it's clear you're the joke here.
How embarrassing it must be for you to be limited to name-calling and insults..in your normal attempt to deflect.
You happy to blame past PNM govts but skip over the unc s period when they had more money than ever..but BORROWED 250,000,000 USD....and still eh deal with the substantial problem.
As I said.
I've posted the loan doc yesterday
Elsewhere on the internet you can find where the loan was taken, references to other details.
You should try and find your own info...
I've posted kangalees link as additional info.
What does that have to do with the loan story that Redman made up?elec2020 wrote:https://www.wasa.gov.tt/WASA_Wastewater%20Rehab_Loan2890.html
"Under the vision of line Minister, Senator the Honourable Ganga Singh, the Water and Sewerage Authority of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (WASA) and the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (GORTT) have commenced a long-term Programme to improve and expand the existing wastewater management services and facilities, as well as implement the institutional and operational reforms needed, towards strengthening and improving the efficiency and cost-effectiveness of its wastewater services."
Does this source meet your standards zr?
Where does it say they cutting staff?elec2020 wrote:Under the vision of line Minister, Senator the Honourable Ganga Singh, the Water and Sewerage Authority of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (WASA) and the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (GORTT) have commenced a long-term Programme to improve and expand the existing wastewater management services and facilities, as well as implement the institutional and operational reforms needed, towards strengthening and improving the efficiency and cost-effectiveness of its wastewater services. With Minister Singh’s unwavering support, and under the guidance of Chief Executive Officer Mr. Gerard Yorke and Director Programmmes and Change Management Mr. Ramchand Ramcharan, as well as the support of the Board of Commissioners of WASA, on January 19th 2013 the GORTT signed Loan Contract No.2890/OC-TT with the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB), to finance the Multi-Phase Wastewater Rehabilitation Programme – Phase I, in the amount of Two Hundred and Forty Six Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars (US$246,500,000). This Loan is the largest loan provided to any single country in the Western Hemisphere. The initiatives under this loan are:
The bolded sentence implies that the loan was partially taken too correct INSTITUTIONAL and OPERATIONAL deffects so as to improve EFFICIENCY and COST EFFECTIVENESS. Isn't one of the first operational defect that impairs cost effectiveness labour expenses?
Show the article where a loan was provided for cutting wasa staff.Redman wrote:Zoombindranath....step away from the keyboard take a rest.
You frothing.
jhonnieblue wrote:I don't think any loan will say for cutting staff. If anything it will be along the lines of improving operational management and efficiency.
I don't see how pointing fingers is going to solve the problem though. Both governments are directly responsible for the situation WASA is in with regards to corruption and inefficiency.
elec2020 wrote:^ fully agreed. The issue is that pnm always bad and opposition always good. Which is not the case. Yes pnm is largely responsible for the state tnt finds itself in today. But oppositions have also allowed that too happen as when the people called on them to be the change that they wanted they showed that they were no better than pnm. And that is the problem.
elec2020 wrote:Did pnm go up uncontested for those 9 terms?
elec2020 wrote:Did pnm go up uncontested for those 9 terms? I realise u just don't understand what i am saying. Let me use a better example. If pp wasn't fraught with corruption and inefficiencies wouldn't they have won the 2015 elections? What about 2020? Why unc lost? Is it because swing voters still believed that the unc will not live up to expectations because the leadership was more or less the same as in pp? Or did pp and unc lose the last 2 GEs because pnm thief the votes?
zoom rader wrote:elec2020 wrote:Did pnm go up uncontested for those 9 terms?
Yes the red government won all 36 by themselves in one election
In the 1971 General Elections the PNM faced only limited opposition as the major opposition parties boycotted the election citing the use of voting machines. The PNM captured all 36 seats in the election, including eight that they carried unopposed.
zoom rader wrote:Show the article where a loan was provided for cutting wasa staff.Redman wrote:Zoombindranath....step away from the keyboard take a rest.
You frothing.
zoom rader wrote:elec2020 wrote:Did pnm go up uncontested for those 9 terms? I realise u just don't understand what i am saying. Let me use a better example. If pp wasn't fraught with corruption and inefficiencies wouldn't they have won the 2015 elections? What about 2020? Why unc lost? Is it because swing voters still believed that the unc will not live up to expectations because the leadership was more or less the same as in pp? Or did pp and unc lose the last 2 GEs because pnm thief the votes?
Rowlee says the sky is falling so the people ran for cover, very few questioned it.
Who are the idiots here ?
Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Show the article where a loan was provided for cutting wasa staff.Redman wrote:Zoombindranath....step away from the keyboard take a rest.
You frothing.
It’s in the loan doc.
The announcements imply the same.
The union article gives the history...
If you cannot connect the dots...well that explains quite a bit.
jhonnieblue wrote:I don't think any loan will say for cutting staff. If anything it will be along the lines of improving operational management and efficiency.
I don't see how pointing fingers is going to solve the problem though. Both governments are directly responsible for the situation WASA is in with regards to corruption and inefficiency.
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