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Postby matr1x » January 11th, 2020, 2:11 pm

Democrats know they have nothing

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Postby agent007 » January 12th, 2020, 7:08 pm

Pelosi is an undercover Trump supporter. Everything she and Chuck does is to guarantee His success in a few short months. Well done. Now if NASA can simply send these libtards to the moon for good, would really MAGA.

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Postby sMASH » January 13th, 2020, 12:54 pm

Not an undercover trump supporter, but an establishment prop.
And would rather trump remain as he is manipulated by establishment, to maintain status quo, instead of letting a progressive (social Democrat) get the opportunity.

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Postby The_Honourable » January 14th, 2020, 10:42 pm

Pelosi says House will send Trump impeachment articles to the Senate Wednesday

WASHINGTON – The House of Representatives will vote Wednesday to send two articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump to the Senate, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced Tuesday.

“The House will now proceed with a vote on transmitting the articles of impeachment and naming impeachment managers on Wednesday, January 15,” Pelosi said in a statement, following a closed door Democratic caucus meeting Tuesday morning.

Wednesday’s House resolution is expected to have three functions: To transmit the articles of impeachment to the Senate, name the House members who will serve as managers of the impeachment trial, and fund the trial itself.

Pelosi has yet to announce who she has selected to serve as impeachment managers, the House members who will effectively act as prosecutors in the president’s trial. On Tuesday, House Democratic Caucus Chair Rep. Hakeem Jeffries said Pelosi would release the names of the managers sometime before Wednesday’s vote.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby sMASH » January 16th, 2020, 8:22 pm



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Postby redmanjp » January 16th, 2020, 8:46 pm

so pelosi send d articles yet?

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Postby sMASH » January 16th, 2020, 8:58 pm

redmanjp wrote:so pelosi send d articles yet?
she knows its a waste of time, is the donkeys pushing for it she trying to protect.

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Postby redmanjp » January 26th, 2020, 1:18 am

Communists in Bernie's campaign?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/01/15/sanders_field_organizer_there_are_a_lot_of_anarcho-communists_working_for_the_sanders_campaign.html




Sanders Field Organizer: "If You Can't Handle Me At My Most Communist, You Don't Deserve Me At My Most Anarchist"

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James O'Keefe
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BREAKING: Bernie Staffer Kyle Jurek “I’m an Anarcho-communist…I'm as far left as you can possibly get...There’s a lot of me’s in the @BernieSanders campaign...”

"He's(Kyle Jurek) fabulous" - Holly Hallman, Bernie Iowa Field Organizer


In a follow-up to their video of a campaign organizer for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders endorsing gulags, James O'Keefe's Project Veritas released this clip of the same staffer politically identifying himself as "an Anarcho-communist."

"I'm as far to left as you can possibly get," he said during a conversation secretly filmed by Project Veritas. "In fact, there are, that I know of, one, two, three, four of the organizers in this office are leftists, Justin me, Derek, Daniele, Jessica are all definitely further left than the Democratic socialists."

"If you can't handle me at my most communist, you don't deserve me at my most anarchist," he joked.

"There’s a lot of me's in the Sanders campaign," he also said.

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Postby sMASH » January 26th, 2020, 1:46 am

If true, y did they decide to fall in there?

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Postby The_Honourable » January 26th, 2020, 11:25 am

Impeachment has been a dud for Democrats

Is there a law against boring people to death? There should be, and Adam Schiff should be the first indicted.

As the California representative has tried to convince Americans…again… that Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office, he has stultified not only TV audiences across the nation, but also the senators who by law have to pay attention to him. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

It is hard to imagine that such a profound undertaking – the overturning of an American election – could emerge as such a dramatic dud. But it has, and the reason is simple. Schiff orchestrated the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives in such a way as to render the partisan outcome predictable, and undermined his own effectiveness by leaking every interesting snippet that was damaging to the president.

Schiff presided over secret committee hearings in rooms closed off to the press and the country, only popping his head up from time to time like a Jack-in-the-Box to rip the president for trying to find out what the heck Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine.

And, trying to determine whether the corrupt country had intervened in our elections. That possibility is roundly rejected by the left-wing chorus as “widely discredited”; in fact, that aggressive dismissal makes me wonder. When Democrats read in unison from a script, there’s usually a reason.

By the time the full House and the country got to hear the charges against the president, during endless hours of debate, most Americans had already heard the flimsy facts of the case, and were becoming less impressed by the day.

More: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... -democrats

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby zoom rader » January 26th, 2020, 11:33 am

All this is a gimmick

White America loves trump

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Postby De Dragon » January 27th, 2020, 2:08 am

The_Honourable wrote:Impeachment has been a dud for Democrats

Is there a law against boring people to death? There should be, and Adam Schiff should be the first indicted.

As the California representative has tried to convince Americans…again… that Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office, he has stultified not only TV audiences across the nation, but also the senators who by law have to pay attention to him. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

It is hard to imagine that such a profound undertaking – the overturning of an American election – could emerge as such a dramatic dud. But it has, and the reason is simple. Schiff orchestrated the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives in such a way as to render the partisan outcome predictable, and undermined his own effectiveness by leaking every interesting snippet that was damaging to the president.

Schiff presided over secret committee hearings in rooms closed off to the press and the country, only popping his head up from time to time like a Jack-in-the-Box to rip the president for trying to find out what the heck Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine.

And, trying to determine whether the corrupt country had intervened in our elections. That possibility is roundly rejected by the left-wing chorus as “widely discredited”; in fact, that aggressive dismissal makes me wonder. When Democrats read in unison from a script, there’s usually a reason.

By the time the full House and the country got to hear the charges against the president, during endless hours of debate, most Americans had already heard the flimsy facts of the case, and were becoming less impressed by the day.

More: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... -democrats

The Hill, really? The same Hill whose reporter helped push the debunked conspiracy about Ukraine and "the server" that Orangey continues to peddle to let Vladdy Daddy off the hook?
I personally looked at a fair bit of the Senate trial, and was surprised at Schiff's command of the facts. He went for great stretches of time without notes, and was riveting in his delivery. Fack, even Lindsey Graham personally told him in the hall "good job" and "very well spoken" Along with other staunch Trump defenders like Gaetz of Florida and Kennedy of Louisiana, so to say he is "boring to death" is not entirely true. I'll allow that there was a certain amount of repetition, but the Dems broke that up with new twists including the 180 degree turns by Graham and Dershowitz during Clinton's trial.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » January 27th, 2020, 9:45 am

De Dragon to be fair, impeachment is largely just the opposition refusing to accept a democratic election results. You can disagree all you want but that is how the general public is going to view this and the dems will be hated even more.

Unless tulsi or Bernie is going up against trump the dems are dead in 2020

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Postby maj. tom » January 27th, 2020, 9:51 am

what i can't understand, and someone who keeps updated on the USA clown circus explain to me, is why....why the ass would Trump, would any POTUS, ask another country to investigate the former vice-president? Why would he just go up to Ukraine and say "investigate Joe Biden for me." Why ????

Doesn't the US President have meetings with the Heads of the CIA, FBI and NSA? Couldn't he just ask one of them to compile a report for his eyes only? Why would he ask Ukraine or China for these things? Someone explain please.

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Postby sMASH » January 27th, 2020, 10:31 am

impeachment should persist because to me, its like a 'right to recall', in that if they do something that police cant directly arrest for, its a mechanism for citizens to get a person out of office for not acting in line with what they want. no appointment should be for better or for worse, all should have a way out, to put someone better if its not being done.

y i think this impeachment is wrong is that i do think that a president should ahve the right and the ability to investigate wrong doing using the tools available to him. asking a foreign government to do something might be irregular, but not illegal or incorrect. its like two states agreeing to pursue a matter.

but, even tho i think this impeachment is a silly matter, its because of the reason. ut, there are other things that are better things to impeach him for. things like tpp, nafta, the non creation of jobs, that he promised, the use of the strike to assissinate the foreign military man(it was within his power to do, just an abuse of that power). but dems probably acting on this cause they have actual provable evidence to use in a hearing. so...


this is why i admire american politics. the people at the top, tend to be the best at their game. u can disagree with their decision, but hardly ever accuse them of being incompetent . as opposed to trinidad, the only merit they have is the position that they have, u can see hear feel experience that they dont know they ass from they elbow, and only there as yes men.
american politics, they are yes men, but chosen from the top 1% of the top 1%.
like comey, i disagreed with him for the clinton trials, but the man gave sound reasons for is actions. trey gowdey during that same situation. republican, came up with great challenges to comey, and great approaches.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby FrankChag » January 27th, 2020, 12:58 pm

maj. tom wrote:what i can't understand, and someone who keeps updated on the USA clown circus explain to me, is why....why the ass would Trump, would any POTUS, ask another country to investigate the former vice-president? Why would he just go up to Ukraine and say "investigate Joe Biden for me." Why ????

Doesn't the US President have meetings with the Heads of the CIA, FBI and NSA? Couldn't he just ask one of them to compile a report for his eyes only? Why would he ask Ukraine or China for these things? Someone explain please.


Because Hunter got his Ukraine job bc of his dad's name, and Trump saw an opportunity for scandalize Biden and the establishment, by secretly forcing/extorting president Z to announce an investigation. That couldn't be done through normal channels because it was political, not policy related.

He wasn't counting on idiot guliani to sell out the game at every play, nor the whistleblower blowing the whole thing wide open.

That's why he's so pissed with the whistleblower. His idiot followers (in the house, Senate and base) don't even understand why theyre vexed with the whistleblower (bc it revealed Trump's scheming).

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby FrankChag » January 27th, 2020, 1:09 pm

sMASH wrote:impeachment should persist because to me, its like a 'right to recall', in that if they do something that police cant directly arrest for, its a mechanism for citizens to get a person out of office for not acting in line with what they want. no appointment should be for better or for worse, all should have a way out, to put someone better if its not being done.

y i think this impeachment is wrong is that i do think that a president should ahve the right and the ability to investigate wrong doing using the tools available to him. asking a foreign government to do something might be irregular, but not illegal or incorrect. its like two states agreeing to pursue a matter.

but, even tho i think this impeachment is a silly matter, its because of the reason. ut, there are other things that are better things to impeach him for. things like tpp, nafta, the non creation of jobs, that he promised, the use of the strike to assissinate the foreign military man(it was within his power to do, just an abuse of that power). but dems probably acting on this cause they have actual provable evidence to use in a hearing. so...


this is why i admire american politics. the people at the top, tend to be the best at their game. u can disagree with their decision, but hardly ever accuse them of being incompetent . as opposed to trinidad, the only merit they have is the position that they have, u can see hear feel experience that they dont know they ass from they elbow, and only there as yes men.
american politics, they are yes men, but chosen from the top 1% of the top 1%.
like comey, i disagreed with him for the clinton trials, but the man gave sound reasons for is actions. trey gowdey during that same situation. republican, came up with great challenges to comey, and great approaches.



Trump is incompetent by any standard.
I'd put Rowley far ahead of him.

Impeachment of the president (in the US) is necessary bc it's the only way to remove the officeholder if s\he goes rogue, which arguably Trump has since he started.

Other than treason and bribery, the standard of high crime and misdemeanors is in actuality comparitavely very low... The "high" is a reference to the highness of the president's office... So essentially any crime or misdemeanors that the president commits "qualifies" him or her for impeachment.

Trump violated this since the Mueller obstruction of Justice, and now with this extortion scheme. In actuality, all the breaches of the emmoluments regulations are impeachable.

And to be clear, he IS impeached. He's now being tried and hopefully he'll be convicted.

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Postby redmanjp » January 27th, 2020, 3:39 pm

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EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:De Dragon to be fair, impeachment is largely just the opposition refusing to accept a democratic election results. You can disagree all you want but that is how the general public is going to view this and the dems will be hated even more.

Unless tulsi or Bernie is going up against trump the dems are dead in 2020


It's that plus a way of blocking him from looking into possible Ukraine linked corruption of not just Biden but other Dems (according to Giuliani).

All the time they were just talking impeachment, as soon as he looked into Ukraine they actually did it.

My question is should a President not have the right to look into corruption assuming there is a suspicion of it? Should he be required to look the other way just because it happens to be a political opponent? So that person just gets away with it?
Only time will tell if these allegations pan out

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Postby redmanjp » January 27th, 2020, 4:02 pm

maj. tom wrote:what i can't understand, and someone who keeps updated on the USA clown circus explain to me, is why....why the ass would Trump, would any POTUS, ask another country to investigate the former vice-president? Why would he just go up to Ukraine and say "investigate Joe Biden for me." Why ????

Doesn't the US President have meetings with the Heads of the CIA, FBI and NSA? Couldn't he just ask one of them to compile a report for his eyes only? Why would he ask Ukraine or China for these things? Someone explain please.


Trump has never had full confidence in those 3 letter agencies. E.g. The recent FISA report had harsh words for the FBI and the FISA court invalidated 2 of the spy warrants on Page so far.
Plus there's a bigger, criminal investigation of the entire Russian Collusion fiasco that possibly looking at the CIAs involvement among other agencies.
Remember he ran on 'Draining the Swamp'. If he feels they themselves are so corrupt that he can't trust them to investigate something then he has no choice to do it himself, even if it means risking his Presidency.

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Postby De Dragon » January 28th, 2020, 2:41 am

redmanjp wrote::agrue:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:De Dragon to be fair, impeachment is largely just the opposition refusing to accept a democratic election results. You can disagree all you want but that is how the general public is going to view this and the dems will be hated even more.

Unless tulsi or Bernie is going up against trump the dems are dead in 2020


It's that plus a way of blocking him from looking into possible Ukraine linked corruption of not just Biden but other Dems (according to Giuliani).

All the time they were just talking impeachment, as soon as he looked into Ukraine they actually did it.

My question is should a President not have the right to look into corruption assuming there is a suspicion of it? Should he be required to look the other way just because it happens to be a political opponent? So that person just gets away with it?
Only time will tell if these allegations pan out

BULL.
Hunter Biden was appointed to Burisma's Board in 2014. It was ill advised to take a position in the country where your father was the policy adviser to, BUT, Trump NEVER asked for any investigations, nor held up any aid in 2017 or 2018. Only when Joe Biden declared that he was running, and was shown to lead the polls among Dems, did he suddenly get all anti-corruption (like JUHN Scarfy when his arse had something to gain).

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Postby De Dragon » January 28th, 2020, 2:49 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:De Dragon to be fair, impeachment is largely just the opposition refusing to accept a democratic election results. You can disagree all you want but that is how the general public is going to view this and the dems will be hated even more.

Unless tulsi or Bernie is going up against trump the dems are dead in 2020

Ironic that among your first words are "to be fair" and then you proceed to be not only unfair, but disingenuous about the purpose of impeachment as the sole means of accountability for a US President. The "general public", or Trump's base as you really mean, will hate whatever the outcome, but the denial of witnesses, a single requested document, will have moderate and swing voters thinking. The Dems are not, and should not, be under any illusion that Trump will be removed by this trial. Their sole purpose is to get those previously mentioned groups to question what manner of man is Trump.


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Postby The_Honourable » January 31st, 2020, 12:41 am

Key Republican to vote against witnesses at Trump impeachment trial, paving way for rapid acquittal without new evidence

A key Republican senator announced late Thursday he will vote against calling witnesses at President Trump’s impeachment trial, dealing a devastating blow to Democratic hopes of fresh evidence and paving the way for the commander-in-chief to be acquitted of all charges by this week’s end.

Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander, who was among a handful of GOP moderates under pressure to vote for more evidence, said after the trial’s second and final question-and-answer session that he had heard enough and did not consider it necessary to subpoena John Bolton or any other outstanding witnesses.

“There is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven and that does not meet the U.S. Constitution’s high bar for an impeachable offense,” Alexander, who’s retiring at the end of this term, said in a statement.

Still, Alexander stunningly acknowledged the Democratic impeachment managers proved Trump pressured Ukraine’s president to announce an investigation of Democratic 2020 rival Joe Biden while withholding $391 million in U.S. military aid as leverage “to encourage that investigation.”

“But the Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate,” Alexander said.

“The question then is not whether the president did it, but whether the United States Senate or the American people should decide what to do about what he did. believe that the Constitution provides that the people should make that decision in the presidential election that begins in Iowa on Monday."

Alexander’s announcement all but put the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic quest for subpoenas of witnesses and records withheld by the Trump administration from House impeachment investigators as part of the president’s sweeping stonewalling campaign.

Fifty-one senators would have to vote the affirmative to open the door to more evidence. Because of the Senate’s 53-47 split, at least four Republicans would have to break ranks for evidence to be admitted at the trial.

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Postby De Dragon » January 31st, 2020, 3:02 am

At least Lamar Alexander had the stones to say what the GOP's forked tongued politicos won't say out loud, which is the POTUS broke the law, but their absolute reliance on riding his coattails to power has them setting aside all ethics, decency and legacy considerations.

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Postby The_Honourable » January 31st, 2020, 7:38 pm

Senate rejects witnesses at Trump impeachment trial

WASHINGTON – The Senate voted Friday to reject subpoenas for witnesses or documents in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, clearing the way for a vote on the verdict.

The largely party-line vote of 51-49 was expected. The 47 Democrats needed at least four Republicans to join them to call witnesses. Only two Republicans – Susan Collins of Maine and Mitt Romney of Utah – had announced they would support calling witnesses.

Democrats sought testimony from four officials, including former national security adviser John Bolton and acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, who each declined invitations to testify during the House inquiry.

The Senate then went into recess with no clear timetable for when it will return.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., are negotiating the terms for closing the trial. The House Democrats prosecuting the case and President Donald Trump's defense team are expected to deliver closing arguments, but the length is among the issues open to debate. McConnell and Schumer must also decide how much time senators have to debate the verdict, and whether to have that debate in open or closed session.

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Hahahaha

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