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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby timelapse » June 7th, 2022, 7:11 am

De Dragon wrote:She called for "marshall law" I guess is the counter claim.
And said Bill Gates is growing fake meat in a peach tree dish
Lab grown meat has already reached commercial stages in some places.
They watching Bill and nobody keeping an eye on Elon.

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Postby redmanjp » June 9th, 2022, 8:15 pm

Primetime live - First public Jan. 6th hearing including unseen footage from the Capitol building breach


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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 11th, 2022, 5:13 pm

Trump is coming back in 2024. We welcome you back Sir. You were missed.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby MaxPower » June 11th, 2022, 6:28 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:Trump is coming back in 2024. We welcome you back Sir. You were missed.


Supes,

How things bro.

I await the Commander to retake what was stolen from him.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 12th, 2022, 2:56 pm

MaxPower wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Trump is coming back in 2024. We welcome you back Sir. You were missed.


Supes,

How things bro.

I await the Commander to retake what was stolen from him.


Biden is very unliked right now....there is no question if this continues, Master Trump will win if he runs.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby Mmoney607 » June 12th, 2022, 5:02 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Trump is coming back in 2024. We welcome you back Sir. You were missed.


Supes,

How things bro.

I await the Commander to retake what was stolen from him.


Biden is very unliked right now....there is no question if this continues, Master Trump will win if he runs.


Nah, just like laventille does still vote pnm, them still voting back biden

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 12th, 2022, 5:02 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Trump is coming back in 2024. We welcome you back Sir. You were missed.


Supes,

How things bro.

I await the Commander to retake what was stolen from him.


Biden is very unliked right now....there is no question if this continues, Master Trump will win if he runs.


Nah, just like laventille does still vote pnm, them still voting back biden


Hahahahhaha good one.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 12th, 2022, 5:24 pm

Trump is my hero.

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Postby redmanjp » June 12th, 2022, 6:01 pm

anybody watch 2000 mules yet? u can get it on torrents. it has a 100% audience score on RT, as if no one can say anything critical about it.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 12th, 2022, 6:33 pm

redmanjp wrote:anybody watch 2000 mules yet? u can get it on torrents. it has a 100% audience score on RT, as if no one can say anything critical about it.


Nah but I respect Dinesh D'Souza. Might check it out. Was busy watching "What is a woman?" by Matt Walsh....now that was interesting.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 12th, 2022, 11:20 pm

Far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has long-time connections with leaders of extremist groups facing the most serious charges in the storming of the US Capitol on January 6th. The House Committee investigating January 6th wants to know more details of Jones' involvement.


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Postby dogg » June 15th, 2022, 7:21 pm

The committee showed video of former Attorney General Bill Barr saying that Trump's claims of fraud were "bogus" and "detached from reality," and called claims of Dominion voting machine fraud "idiotic."
Bill Barr told the committee that when discussing allegations of voting fraud tied to Dominion machines with Trump that he was “demoralized” because if “he really believes this … he’s become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff.”
Poor Guy. Dementia is a helluva drug. Biden same.

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Postby matr1x » June 16th, 2022, 8:08 am

Anyone wondering if they just started manufacturing evidence against him?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 16th, 2022, 3:20 pm

Donald Trump is odds on favorite to be POTUS after 2024.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us ... 024/winner

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Postby redmanjp » June 17th, 2022, 12:00 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:Donald Trump is odds on favorite to be POTUS after 2024.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us ... 024/winner



ppl cud bet 2 years in advance?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 17th, 2022, 2:57 pm

redmanjp wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Donald Trump is odds on favorite to be POTUS after 2024.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us ... 024/winner



ppl cud bet 2 years in advance?


Looks like it. Who you think might win?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby SuperiorMan » June 22nd, 2022, 1:43 pm



Classic moment from this great man!

Was watching back some videos of the great hero of of the greatest country in the world and decided to share this.

Shows his human and relatable side. Man could hold a crowd unlike Biden.

Great leader.

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Postby SPK1983 » June 23rd, 2022, 11:24 pm

redmanjp wrote:anybody watch 2000 mules yet? u can get it on torrents. it has a 100% audience score on RT, as if no one can say anything critical about it.


I did, it seems semi-reasonable on the surface, especially if you already buy into the claim of a stolen election. However, once you start to ask questions below the surface, it kinda falls apart (not the first time). Simple things like showing actual video of the same "mule" visiting 2 ballot drop off points (which they should if the mules had routes as claimed by their go-tagging), they can't provide. When I realised they didn't have that basic evidence, I tuned out entirely.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby The_Honourable » June 24th, 2022, 12:10 am

November mid-terms looming. Dems desperate, milking Jan 6th while americans and the world in general studying inflation and the economy. While the hearings are valid, we all know it is a political stunt. To add, trust in the media is low since the public for the most part realize that left leaning media took them for a ride with the trump-russian collusion story. High interest in Jan 6th was only on the first day and it has since fall off.

The possible overturning of Roe v Wade might give dems a boost.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 29th, 2022, 12:05 pm

• Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., suggested in her closing remarks that witnesses were being intimidated by people close to Trump.

• Prevented from going to the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of his presidential vehicle and lunged at a Secret Service agent, Hutchinson testified. Trump denied that.

• Hutchinson said Trump knew and didn’t care that his supporters had weapons at his Jan. 6 rally. The committee showed a montage during the hearing of video from Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6 and played radio transmissions among law enforcement discussing people with firearms.

• Trump said "I'm the effing President, take me up to the Capitol now"

• Trump threw his lunch against the wall when he heard the Attorney General was not supporting him


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Postby Dizzy28 » June 29th, 2022, 12:48 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:• Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., suggested in her closing remarks that witnesses were being intimidated by people close to Trump.

• Prevented from going to the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of his presidential vehicle and lunged at a Secret Service agent, Hutchinson testified. Trump denied that.

• Hutchinson said Trump knew and didn’t care that his supporters had weapons at his Jan. 6 rally. The committee showed a montage during the hearing of video from Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6 and played radio transmissions among law enforcement discussing people with firearms.

• Trump said "I'm the effing President, take me up to the Capitol now"

• Trump threw his lunch against the wall when he heard the Attorney General was not supporting him



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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby redmanjp » June 29th, 2022, 1:47 pm

but how can he grab the wheel if he not close to it? those vehicles presidents travel in their seat wont be far from the driver?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » June 29th, 2022, 2:18 pm

redmanjp wrote:but how can he grab the wheel if he not close to it? those vehicles presidents travel in their seat wont be far from the driver?


He was in the rear passenger seat of a Chevy Suburban.
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Postby The_Honourable » June 29th, 2022, 2:50 pm

Calm down lads

Secret Service agents are prepared to testify that Trump did not lunge at them or try to take control of the car to reach the Capitol, reports say

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- A former Trump ally aide said Trump lunged at Secret Service agents to try get to the Capitol on Jan. 6.

- The aide said Trump tried to grab the steering wheel and said "I'm the effing president!"

- CBS News and NBC News reported that agents are willing to testify against the allegations.


Secret Service agents are willing to testify that former President Donald Trump did not try to lunge at them or take control of the vehicle to direct the car to the Capitol as agents were driving on January 6, 2021, CBS News and NBC News reported.

Cassidy Hutchinson, a top aide to then-Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, told the House select committee investigating the January 6 riot on Tuesday that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol, knowing that his supporters were armed there.

It is unclear if the violent riot had unfolded at that point or if Trump was aware of it.

She said that Trump lunged at a Secret Service agent in the car, tried to grab the steering wheel, and said, "I'm the effing president!" as he demanded to be brought to the Capitol.

But one source close to the Secret Service told CBS News that both the driver of the car and Robert Engel — a Secret Service agent who was then the head of Trump's security detail — are prepared to testify under oath that Trump did not lunge at the car's steering wheel and that Trump did not verbally or physically assault them.

Anthony Guglielmi, a Secret Service spokesman, also told CBS News that the group "has been cooperating with the Select Committee since its inception in spring 2021, and will continue to do so, including by responding on the record to the Committee regarding the new allegations surfaced in today's testimony."

Peter Alexander, chief White House correspondent for NBC News, tweeted on Tuesday that a source close to the Secret Service told him that Engels and the driver "are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."

Three agents who accompanied Trump that day also dispute the idea that he tried to grab the steering wheel or went after any agents, one current and one former law enforcement official told The Washington Post.

Some former Trump aides have described Hutchinson's allegations as damning, while others have sought to downplay her credibility, Insider's Kimberly Leonard, Warren Rojas, and Joseph Zeballos-Roig reported.

Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/secret-agent ... 04694.html

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Postby adnj » June 29th, 2022, 3:33 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Calm down lads

Secret Service agents are prepared to testify that Trump did not lunge at them or try to take control of the car to reach the Capitol, reports say

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- A former Trump ally aide said Trump lunged at Secret Service agents to try get to the Capitol on Jan. 6.

- The aide said Trump tried to grab the steering wheel and said "I'm the effing president!"

- CBS News and NBC News reported that agents are willing to testify against the allegations.


Secret Service agents are willing to testify that former President Donald Trump did not try to lunge at them or take control of the vehicle to direct the car to the Capitol as agents were driving on January 6, 2021, CBS News and NBC News reported.

Cassidy Hutchinson, a top aide to then-Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, told the House select committee investigating the January 6 riot on Tuesday that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol, knowing that his supporters were armed there.

It is unclear if the violent riot had unfolded at that point or if Trump was aware of it.

She said that Trump lunged at a Secret Service agent in the car, tried to grab the steering wheel, and said, "I'm the effing president!" as he demanded to be brought to the Capitol.

But one source close to the Secret Service told CBS News that both the driver of the car and Robert Engel — a Secret Service agent who was then the head of Trump's security detail — are prepared to testify under oath that Trump did not lunge at the car's steering wheel and that Trump did not verbally or physically assault them.

Anthony Guglielmi, a Secret Service spokesman, also told CBS News that the group "has been cooperating with the Select Committee since its inception in spring 2021, and will continue to do so, including by responding on the record to the Committee regarding the new allegations surfaced in today's testimony."

Peter Alexander, chief White House correspondent for NBC News, tweeted on Tuesday that a source close to the Secret Service told him that Engels and the driver "are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."

Three agents who accompanied Trump that day also dispute the idea that he tried to grab the steering wheel or went after any agents, one current and one former law enforcement official told The Washington Post.

Some former Trump aides have described Hutchinson's allegations as damning, while others have sought to downplay her credibility, Insider's Kimberly Leonard, Warren Rojas, and Joseph Zeballos-Roig reported.

Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/secret-agent ... 04694.html


I'm not certain where yahoo News gets their backstory but Hutchison offered only hearsay testimony regarding Trump's alleged actions in the vehicle.

The salient point is:
Hutchinson testified under oath that Tony Ornato recounted his experience in the vehicle while with Trump and Robert Engle. Tony Ornato and Robert Engle have previously testified under oath to the Committee. Ornato and Engle plan to deny that the story was true. There is discord between separate sworn testimonies to a Congressional committee.

Result: nearly certain criminal grand jury investigation. Who will be deposed? Hutchinson, Ornato, Engle, and Trump.

Why is this significant? It opens the door as to why it was so important to go to the Capitol.

[Hutchinson] testified that she heard a secondhand account of how Trump was so enraged at his Secret Service detail for blocking him from going to the Capitol that he lunged to the front of his vehicle and tried to turn the wheel.
Tony Ornato, then-White House deputy chief of staff, told Hutchinson that Robert Engel, who was the Secret Service agent in charge on January 6, 2021, repeatedly told Trump on their way back to the White House after Trump's Ellipse speech that it wasn't safe to go to the Capitol, she said.

According to Hutchinson, Ornato recounted Trump screaming, "I'm the f**king President. Take me up to the Capitol now." Trump then "reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel," Hutchinson remembered learning. She added that, according to Ornato, the former President used his other hand to "lunge" at Engel.

Engel and Ornato have both testified to the committee behind closed doors, but their statements were not used in Tuesday's hearing.

After the testimony, a Secret Service official familiar with the matter told CNN that Ornato denies telling Hutchinson that the former President grabbed the wheel or an agent on his detail.

The Secret Service, through the Department of Homeland Security office of legislative affairs, notified the committee Tuesday afternoon that it will make the agents involved available to testify under oath, the official said. The agents are also prepared to say under oath that the incident itself did not occur.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/28/poli ... index.html

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby maj. tom » June 29th, 2022, 4:49 pm

She should not have testified to things that she did not witness. Hearsay from someone else. That is irrelevant to the hearing and gathering official evidence.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 29th, 2022, 5:17 pm

maj. tom wrote:She should not have testified to things that she did not witness. Hearsay from someone else. That is irrelevant to the hearing and gathering official evidence.

it's good for TV ratings though

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Postby redmanjp » June 29th, 2022, 5:31 pm

SPK1983 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:anybody watch 2000 mules yet? u can get it on torrents. it has a 100% audience score on RT, as if no one can say anything critical about it.


I did, it seems semi-reasonable on the surface, especially if you already buy into the claim of a stolen election. However, once you start to ask questions below the surface, it kinda falls apart (not the first time). Simple things like showing actual video of the same "mule" visiting 2 ballot drop off points (which they should if the mules had routes as claimed by their go-tagging), they can't provide. When I realised they didn't have that basic evidence, I tuned out entirely.


the geotagging should be able to provide this evidence

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » June 29th, 2022, 6:58 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
maj. tom wrote:She should not have testified to things that she did not witness. Hearsay from someone else. That is irrelevant to the hearing and gathering official evidence.

it's good for TV ratings though
Ratings? Perhaps. It certainly started a buzz.

Hutchinson has been deposed four prior times. The people that she spoke of have also been interviewed.

Hutchinson testified as to what she was told - hearsay. It was not a criminal trial and she was not providing evidence of what happened. The Committee is considering hearsay to identify inconsistencies in eyewitness testimonies.

So, the question now is who is telling the truth, who is not, and what is, or is not, being said. Trump is not the focal point here. The focus is on the veracity of previous interviewees.

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