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IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby pugboy » May 17th, 2016, 9:35 pm

Funded as in free money or debt to pay back later

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Team Loco » May 17th, 2016, 9:39 pm

Great .lets just forget about the incompleted highway

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby pugboy » May 17th, 2016, 9:40 pm

Not to mention contractors who probably sharpening their teeth now

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby nervewrecker » May 17th, 2016, 9:42 pm

All that equipment ansad have parked down in Point Fortin will finally get some work then.
I see they get a massive junk of land at the side of the highway between mondesir and grant trace too.

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Habit7 » May 17th, 2016, 10:21 pm

Why from Valencia though? Continue the CRH to Sangre Grande and then have a road going north from there.

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby eliteauto » May 17th, 2016, 10:29 pm

Habit7 wrote:Why from Valencia though? Continue the CRH to Sangre Grande and then have a road going north from there.


IIRC there were plans for a Cumuto to Manzanilla highway as well so that covers Grande, the Valencia to Toco route may be the most direct ergo cheapest route

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby eliteauto » May 17th, 2016, 10:34 pm

ok found it

Some of the road improvement projects that we have identified for immediate implementation include the following:
 the Wallerfield to Manzanilla Highway, which includes a ring road round Sangre Grande
 the Curepe Interchange
 the Valencia to Toco Freeway
 upgrade of the Moruga Road
 completion of the Pt Fortin Highway
 the San Fernando to Princes Town Highway
Most of these projects have the advantage that they have already been designed and are ready for the immediate invitation of tenders, while others are in an advanced stage of preparation. Indeed, projects such as the Wallerfield to Manzanilla Highway and the Princes Town Highway have been ready for construction since as far back as 2010.


page 21.
http://www.finance.gov.tt/wp-content/up ... Review.pdf

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby rspann » May 17th, 2016, 10:58 pm

We really going to build a port on the windward side of the island?

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 17th, 2016, 11:10 pm

eliteauto wrote:ok found it

Some of the road improvement projects that we have identified for immediate implementation include the following:
 the Wallerfield to Manzanilla Highway, which includes a ring road round Sangre Grande
 the Curepe Interchange
 the Valencia to Toco Freeway
 upgrade of the Moruga Road
 completion of the Pt Fortin Highway
 the San Fernando to Princes Town Highway
Most of these projects have the advantage that they have already been designed and are ready for the immediate invitation of tenders, while others are in an advanced stage of preparation. Indeed, projects such as the Wallerfield to Manzanilla Highway and the Princes Town Highway have been ready for construction since as far back as 2010.


page 21.
http://www.finance.gov.tt/wp-content/up ... Review.pdf
wish they also had an additional flyover in Chaguanas to ease up the traffic on Endeavor/ Pricesmart. One at Marchin/Jerningham Jnct to Pierre Rd perhaps. Those are two fairly major roads.
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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby rspann » May 17th, 2016, 11:13 pm

That is south of Grand Bazaar.

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 17th, 2016, 11:14 pm

rspann wrote:That is south of Grand Bazaar.
so are half of the projects on the govt list

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby eliteauto » May 17th, 2016, 11:20 pm

Spann is past yuh bedtime

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Habit7 » May 17th, 2016, 11:25 pm

eliteauto wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Why from Valencia though? Continue the CRH to Sangre Grande and then have a road going north from there.
IIRC there were plans for a Cumuto to Manzanilla highway as well so that covers Grande, the Valencia to Toco route may be the most direct ergo cheapest route

I know about the extension to Grande, but I think Grande to Toco is a more direct route than from Valencia.

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:wish they also had an additional flyover in Chaguanas to ease up the traffic on Endeavor/ Pricesmart. One at Marchin/Jerningham Jnct to Pierre Rd perhaps. Those are two fairly major roads.

Hinds says Point Fortin highway to continue
By Richardson Dhalai Wednesday, April 13 2016

ALTHOUGH Brazilian contractor, Construtora OAS, is expected to leave the Sir Solomon Hochoy highway extension to Point Fortin project by the end of May, Works and Transport Minister, Fitzgerald Hinds, has signalled government’s intention to complete the highway as part of its infrastructural development programme.

“We have said a thousand times that we intend to continue and to complete the San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway,” Hinds said, before noting that a number of other road projects were also being planned which included a freeway from San Fernando to Mayaro.

“We propose to develop a new road, a freeway between San Fernando and Mayaro,” he said, adding, “We propose as well the Wallerfield to Manzanilla Highway and I got the Cabinet to agree only recently to have one of the agencies come on board and we will begin that process.” Hinds was addressing the “Quality in construction” seminar at the Centre for Enterprise Development, Innovation Avenue, Freeport yesterday.

He said several other projects were also being developed to ease traffic congestion including a Valencia to Toco highway, a ring road around Chaguanas to avoid commuters going through the urban centre was well as the development of a ferry port at Toco.

Hinds also defended the fiscal measures contained within the mid-year review which was presented by Minister of Finance, Colm Imbert, last Friday saying government had no choice but to implement these measures “little by little” to avoid harsher measures in the future.

“A number of the things that the Minister of Finance had to prescribe and to direct to us, given the responsibility he has are unpopular, a government doesn’t want to impose taxes, a government doesn’t want to remove the fuel subsidy, a government doesn’t want to impose action on its citizens because doing so makes you unpopular,” Hinds said.

http://newsday.co.tt/politics/print,0,226465.html

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 17th, 2016, 11:36 pm

is there a drawing or map or illustration of this?

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby GixxerMan » May 17th, 2016, 11:53 pm

well yes!!!

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby xtech » May 18th, 2016, 2:19 am

Lots of cheap and willing Venezuelan labor coming to help us build these projects.

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby zoom rader » May 18th, 2016, 3:54 am

Toco will be no more, it will end up looking like laventille once the squating and crime invades the lush scenery.

Thanks PNM, Toco will be a getto

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Rory Phoulorie » May 18th, 2016, 5:53 am

IADB funding what exactly? The consultancy for the design of the highway? The cost of constructing the highway? Cause IADB will not fund a project that is not feasible from a financial standpoint. And if they now doing a route selection, they obviously have no idea of the cost to construct to a level of detail to be able to go to a lending agency.

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby pugboy » May 18th, 2016, 6:17 am

nobody answer if IADB funding is lending or giving money

this is classic govt after election behaviour - find massive new(never did before) project to start gravy train rolling

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Gladiator » May 18th, 2016, 7:33 am

pugboy wrote:nobody answer if IADB funding is lending or giving money

this is classic govt after election behaviour - find massive new(never did before) project to start gravy train rolling


They have bills to pay....

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby abbow » May 18th, 2016, 7:42 am

nervewrecker wrote:All that equipment ansad have parked down in Point Fortin will finally get some work then.
I see they get a massive junk of land at the side of the highway between mondesir and grant trace too.


bought from what i heard,

the other piece that they bought next to it used to be my grandmom's own....used to walk all there with her as a kid....

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby abbow » May 18th, 2016, 7:50 am

pugboy wrote:nobody answer if IADB funding is lending or giving money

this is classic govt after election behaviour - find massive new(never did before) project to start gravy train rolling


why on this green earth would they want to go after another huge project.....???

how much projects have been left hanging that other gov and tax payers will have to continue to pay for?

is that wise while in a financial downturn?

what next from toco? hw to tobago as they thought abt before....???

i fear for the future of my kids....

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Dizzy28 » May 18th, 2016, 9:41 am

Habit7 wrote:Why from Valencia though? Continue the CRH to Sangre Grande and then have a road going north from there.


Isn't the biggest holdback for any continuation of the CRH to Sangre Grande is the alignment of any potential route falls within or very close to the Aripo Savanah Environmentally Sensitive Area??

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Postby Habit7 » May 18th, 2016, 9:46 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Why from Valencia though? Continue the CRH to Sangre Grande and then have a road going north from there.


Isn't the biggest holdback for any continuation of the CRH to Sangre Grande is the alignment of any potential route falls within or very close to the Aripo Savanah Environmentally Sensitive Area??

Yeah but all govts guilty of turning a blind eye to the numerous squatters already dwelling in this sensitive area. So we will have another Kublalsingh defending an ecosystem that only exists in theory.

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Dizzy28 » May 18th, 2016, 9:53 am

It may very well be the same Kublasingh!!

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Miktay » May 18th, 2016, 10:17 am

pugboy wrote:nobody answer if IADB funding is lending or giving money

this is classic govt after election behaviour - find massive new(never did before) project to start gravy train rolling


IADB end with the word Bank.

Banks doh gi way money.

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby Rory Phoulorie » May 18th, 2016, 8:04 pm

Isn't the road to Toco meant mainly to support the proposed harbour for the inter-island ferry? If the road and harbour are built, then the transit time by boat between Trinidad and Tobago will be much less. Since the travel time is less, operating costs will be less for the ferry, and, perhaps then the government can remove whatever subsidies there are on the current price for travelling to Tobago on the ferry. The new road should also open up the north-eastern section of Trinidad for development (residential and commercial).

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Re: IADB to fund building Toco to Valencia Highway

Postby pugboy » May 18th, 2016, 8:07 pm

Toco area landscape ain't exactly most development friendly eh
Almost as bad as Tobago

The Kay Donna project gonna be a real eye opener

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