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On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby Monk BANzai » May 28th, 2016, 8:47 pm

Is there a law against harbouring/in your possession pornographic materials in Trinidad and Tobago? And by extension (seeing that the SSA is working now re: capturing of prank caller) How does that affect locals viewing pornography online if the former is indeed an actual offense?

SSA gonna make a money like Sgt. Phillip who does operate the Priority Bus Route Sting Operations.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 28th, 2016, 8:54 pm

From what I understand even something like Homosexuality is illegal in Trinidad and you could go to jail for it. But that never stop anybody in this place.

I highly doubt the government is going after people who download porn. They will use this bill to spy on the opposition, to persecute opposition members, things of that nature.
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Postby de_dougla_smurf » May 28th, 2016, 8:56 pm

Interesting. Subscribing.

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Postby rspann » May 28th, 2016, 9:32 pm

Banzai worried they coming for his stash?

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sunday punch stop selling?

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^^Titties safe

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Ass Parade as well.

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Re: ...On th isssue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby zoom rader » May 28th, 2016, 11:48 pm

BANzai Rastafarai wrote:Is there a law against harbouring/in your possession pornographic materials locally? And by extension (seeing that the SSA is working now re: capturing of prank caller) How does that affect locals viewing pornography online if the former is indeed an actual offense?

SSA gonna make a money like Sgt. Phillip who does operate the Priority Bus Route Sting Operations.


Yes you can get charged for it,

Hans Boos was busted for this years ago.

PORT OF SPAIN, Feb 14 1996 (IPS) - The arrest of Trinidadian zoo curator Hans Boos in Miami on child pornography charges has stirred a hornets nest of speculation surrounding the sex industry here with the launching of an official investigation into several cases of missing children.

Boos was originally arrested and charged by local authorities in 1993 for possession of pornographic literature. The court had ordered the destruction of a large collection ofr video tapes, photographs and magazines some of which featured the popular zoo keeper in various sexual positions with a number of young women.

Since then U.S. authorities began keeping a close eye on Boos and when he was arrested as he disembarked from a flight from Trinidad to Miami on Feb. 5, there was sufficient evidence to have him charged with starring in and distributing child pornography.

It is being alleged that he not only swapped such material with foreign connections as far as Thailand, the United Kingdom and Germany but that he had personally engaged in sex acts with young children.

On Tuesday Attorney General Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj announced the setting up of a special unit within the police service to investigate several cases of missing children that might have been linked to an alleged pornography ring.

The Boos incident has also put the spotlight on teenage prostitution, a phenomenon that has been described as one of the fastest growing sub-sectors of the local sex trade.


http://www.ipsnews.net/1996/02/trinidad ... -business/

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Postby zoom rader » May 29th, 2016, 12:33 am

The PNM Government will mostly use SSA to spy on the opposition and ppl that don't agree with them. A lot of blackmail will be taking place. The normal agv Kwame & Kibibi does not have anything to fear as they are not important.

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Postby redmanjp » May 29th, 2016, 1:51 am

zoom rader wrote:
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:Is there a law against harbouring/in your possession pornographic materials locally? And by extension (seeing that the SSA is working now re: capturing of prank caller) How does that affect locals viewing pornography online if the former is indeed an actual offense?

SSA gonna make a money like Sgt. Phillip who does operate the Priority Bus Route Sting Operations.


Yes you can get charged for it,

Hans Boos was busted for this years ago.

PORT OF SPAIN, Feb 14 1996 (IPS) - The arrest of Trinidadian zoo curator Hans Boos in Miami on child pornography charges has stirred a hornets nest of speculation surrounding the sex industry here with the launching of an official investigation into several cases of missing children.

Boos was originally arrested and charged by local authorities in 1993 for possession of pornographic literature. The court had ordered the destruction of a large collection ofr video tapes, photographs and magazines some of which featured the popular zoo keeper in various sexual positions with a number of young women.

Since then U.S. authorities began keeping a close eye on Boos and when he was arrested as he disembarked from a flight from Trinidad to Miami on Feb. 5, there was sufficient evidence to have him charged with starring in and distributing child pornography.

It is being alleged that he not only swapped such material with foreign connections as far as Thailand, the United Kingdom and Germany but that he had personally engaged in sex acts with young children.

On Tuesday Attorney General Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj announced the setting up of a special unit within the police service to investigate several cases of missing children that might have been linked to an alleged pornography ring.

The Boos incident has also put the spotlight on teenage prostitution, a phenomenon that has been described as one of the fastest growing sub-sectors of the local sex trade.


http://www.ipsnews.net/1996/02/trinidad ... -business/


wait are we talking CHILD porn or adult porn? there is big difference- the former is VERY illegal, the latter, I don't think so

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Re: ...On th isssue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby fallen_angel » May 29th, 2016, 3:48 am

Child porn and animal porn is illegal...you can get arrested anywhere in the world, including trini for that. It is an offence to possess or distribute.

Any other type of porn.... vegetable porn, cartoon porn, MILF porn, cougar porn, etc and you safe as long as it is not pirated versions.

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Postby Monk BANzai » May 29th, 2016, 5:06 am

submitted by a buddie on Facebook:
Taken from the proposed Cyber Crime Bill which seems focused on 'child pornography'
Part 1 Item 17(d) http://www.ttparliament.org/legislations/b2014h05g.pdf
No specific mention of 'pornographic photos' in general.

In 2014 the then AG spoke about '..laws on revenge porn..' though nothing has been passed as far as I know. However, defamation of character can come into play.

But do read the bill and in particular the item / section quoted wink emoticon

Would like to be corrected if I'm wrong on any assumptions made.



lol... like meh "Tipping" ched go land me a 2 months...
Laws of Trinidad & Tobago
"Summary Offences Chap. 11:02 - 46(g)

any person who offers for sale or distribution or who exhibits to public view, any profane, indecent, or obscene book, paper, print, drawing, painting, or representation.


My question really stems from SSA "convienently using any law to invade and use your browsing History/contents as proof of "harbouring"

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 29th, 2016, 1:07 pm

Laws of Trinidad & Tobago
"Summary Offences Chap. 11:02 - 46(g)

any person who offers for sale or distribution or who exhibits to public view, any profane, indecent, or obscene book, paper, print, drawing, painting, or representation.
the law only applies to profane, indecent or obscene material that is for sale or distribution or placed in public view.

So therefore the cable TV providers who sell subscriptions to hardcore or softcore (Cinemax and HBO After Dark) porn channels can be charged?

This may be more pertinent to your "stash" and keeping porn on your hard drive etc:

LAWS OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
Chap. 11:02 Summary Offences

PUBLICATIONS
103. (1) Where a complaint is made upon oath before a
Magistrate that—
(a) the complainant has reason to believe and does
believe that any obscene books, papers, writings,
prints, pictures, drawings, or other representations
are kept in any house, shop, room, or other place
within the limits of the jurisdiction of the Magistrate
for the purpose of sale or distribution, exhibition
for purposes of gain, lending upon hire, or being
otherwise published for purposes of gain; and (b) that one or more articles of the like character have
been sold, distributed, exhibited, lent, or otherwise
published as mentioned above, at or in connection
with such place, so as to satisfy such Magistrate
that the belief of the complainant is well founded,
and where such Magistrate is also satisfied that
any of such articles so kept for any of the purposes
mentioned above are of such a character and
description that the publication of them would be
an offence punishable under section 5 of the
Criminal Offences Act or paragraph (g) of
section 46 of this Act, the Magistrate may give
authority by special warrant to any constable to
enter into such house, shop, room, or other place,
with such assistance as may be necessary, in the
daytime, and if necessary to use force by breaking
open doors or otherwise, and to search for and
seize all such books, papers, writings, prints,
pictures, drawings, or other representations found
in such house, shop, room, or other place, and to
carry all the articles so seized before the
Magistrate issuing the warrant, or some other
Magistrate exercising the same jurisdiction.
(2) Such Magistrate shall thereupon issue a summons
calling upon the occupier of the house or other place which may
have been so entered by virtue of the warrant, to appear within
seven days before such Magistrate to show cause why the articles
so seized should not be destroyed.
(3) If the occupier or some other person claiming to be
the owner of the articles does not appear within the time
mentioned above, or if he appears and the Magistrate is satisfied
that the articles or any of them are of the character stated in the
warrant, and that the articles or any of them have been kept for
any of the purposes mentioned above, the Magistrate shall order
the articles so seized, except such of them as he may consider
necessary to be preserved as evidence in some further proceeding,
to be destroyed at the expiration of the time allowed for lodging
an appeal unless notice of appeal is given, and such articles shall
be in the meantime impounded.
(4) If the Magistrate is satisfied that the articles seized
are not of the character stated in the warrant, or have not been kept
for any of the purposes mentioned above, he shall forthwith direct
them to be restored to the occupier of the house or other place in
which they were seized.
104. Any person who—
(a) affixes to or inscribes on any land, building, wall,
hoarding, gate, fence, pillar, post, board, tree, or
any other thing whatsoever, so as to be visible to
any person being in or passing along any street
or being in any house; or
(b) delivers, sends, or exhibits to any person being
in or passing along any street; or
(c) throws into any house, yard, or premises; or
(d) exhibits to public view in the window of any
house or shop,
any picture or printed or written matter which is of an indecent or
obscene nature, is liable to a fine of four hundred dollars.
from what I understand here, if your "stash" is not for sale or distribution by you then you can keep it. However you cannot share it or post it for others to see. That would include sharing on Whatsapp, email, forums, facebook, instagram, snapchat etc.

You could probably be charged $400 for EACH photo.

A lawyer may be able to shed some light on this.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 29th, 2016, 1:19 pm

fari like he have ah deadly collection

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Postby wheelbarrow » May 29th, 2016, 1:29 pm

Soo, the Trinidad and Tobago Nudes Appreciation Association Whatsapp Group hadda relocate???

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Postby mero » May 29th, 2016, 1:37 pm

Life sentence for dougla boy tbh

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Postby MaxPower » May 29th, 2016, 1:49 pm

Alohatube

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Postby Monk BANzai » May 29th, 2016, 4:00 pm

Good stuff Daune... its interesting especially coming out of the 80kph enforcement law.. and then OMG!! WE VAN DRIVERS HADDA DO 65? ERHEMEHGERRRD!!!!!!" situation.

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Postby MISHI » May 29th, 2016, 4:08 pm

Few yrs ago I asked an officer regarding this very thing... and the simple response was "as long as you not lending or selling or making it available to anyone, it is not illegal to keep."

Thing is though, how exactly are they going to try to snoop on people using whatsapp for example with end to end encryption?

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 29th, 2016, 4:40 pm

MISHI wrote:Few yrs ago I asked an officer regarding this very thing... and the simple response was "as long as you not lending or selling or making it available to anyone, it is not illegal to keep."

Thing is though, how exactly are they going to try to snoop on people using whatsapp for example with end to end encryption?
you feel that end to end encryption is real?

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Postby MISHI » May 29th, 2016, 4:41 pm

Well can't say... but if the apple encryption was any indication, possibly whatsapp's system "might" be legit...

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Postby Mercenary » May 29th, 2016, 5:14 pm

mero wrote:Life sentence for dougla boy tbh


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Postby Monk BANzai » May 29th, 2016, 5:48 pm

Linzi/Sixspeed's take on it:

As it relates to Posting. Postings is distribution. And yes flow can be charged. Consider that the law was mean t8 prevent such material coming into public space. Consumers might want but flow isnt to provide or sell subs to as dat is technically distribution as their units are the source and you are paying for that. It's very subjective though

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Postby Mercenary » May 29th, 2016, 5:59 pm

porn neva kill nobody.

child porn is unacceptable tho.

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