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Postby ProtonPowder » May 29th, 2023, 7:00 pm

You try going to an IT admin as a regular joe in the workplace and see how far you get making them listen to you.

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Postby redmanjp » May 29th, 2023, 7:17 pm

well its clear that that is some fly by night school that doesn't have any policies whatsoever wrt internet access- free for all it is.

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Postby adnj » May 29th, 2023, 7:37 pm

redmanjp wrote:well its clear that that is some fly by night school that doesn't have any policies whatsoever wrt internet access- free for all it is.


Are the users 18 years and over or under 18 years? There is no necessary policy for internet obscenity for adults. The burden is on the adult.

If the users are under 18, a simple change to the DNS is all that it takes.

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Postby DMan7 » May 29th, 2023, 7:41 pm

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:well its clear that that is some fly by night school that doesn't have any policies whatsoever wrt internet access- free for all it is.


Are the users 18 years and over or under 18 years? There is no necessary policy for internet obscenity for adults. The burden is on the adult.

If the users are under 18, a simple change to the DNS is all that it takes.


OpenDNS content filtering is not 100% effective. The best tool to preventing students from going on undesirable websites is proper supervision either from teachers or parents. All these half measures doesn't solve anything.

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Postby redmanjp » May 29th, 2023, 7:49 pm

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:well its clear that that is some fly by night school that doesn't have any policies whatsoever wrt internet access- free for all it is.


Are the users 18 years and over or under 18 years? There is no necessary policy for internet obscenity for adults. The burden is on the adult.

If the users are under 18, a simple change to the DNS is all that it takes.


if the porn viewing is so rampant it affecting network speed/access they going to ignore that? aside from the fact that students not doing their work- and also u may have female students or even some male students who also not comfortable with it. age of the students viewing is clearly not the only concern here.

and yes they can do OPENDNS or something like that but as i said it appears it is a free for all- neither network policies nor instructor intervention existed.

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The_Honourable wrote:The letter further details unethical behaviours displayed by officers (whose names were sealed) towards victims, including one officer who tried to form inappropriate friendships with victims and later joined the online rings on his personal cellular devices. Another actively participated in the rings, posted photos of himself in police attire while holding guns.


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Postby adnj » May 29th, 2023, 8:56 pm

DMan7 wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:well its clear that that is some fly by night school that doesn't have any policies whatsoever wrt internet access- free for all it is.


Are the users 18 years and over or under 18 years? There is no necessary policy for internet obscenity for adults. The burden is on the adult.

If the users are under 18, a simple change to the DNS is all that it takes.


OpenDNS content filtering is not 100% effective. The best tool to preventing students from going on undesirable websites is proper supervision either from teachers or parents. All these half measures doesn't solve anything.
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:well its clear that that is some fly by night school that doesn't have any policies whatsoever wrt internet access- free for all it is.


Are the users 18 years and over or under 18 years? There is no necessary policy for internet obscenity for adults. The burden is on the adult.

If the users are under 18, a simple change to the DNS is all that it takes.


if the porn viewing is so rampant it affecting network speed/access they going to ignore that? aside from the fact that students not doing their work- and also u may have female students or even some male students who also not comfortable with it. age of the students viewing is clearly not the only concern here.

and yes they can do OPENDNS or something like that but as i said it appears it is a free for all- neither network policies nor instructor intervention existed.
I'm really not the one that will ever show much pedagogical patience to a student that chooses to be a problem. You get one or two chances - then someone new gets your spot in the program.

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Postby The_Honourable » May 29th, 2023, 9:13 pm

Express article from March

Sex predator network

...Child porn, explicit images of young women being shared

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Sex predators in Trinidad and Tobago have formed more than 100 networking groups through which child pornography and thousands of explicit images of young women are being shared amongst themselves.

The groups have been created and recreated by abusers on various online platforms such as WhatsApp, Twitter, Telegram, MeWe and Discord for the purpose of distributing intimate images and videos of children and young women.

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And the number of these groups has doubled since 2020.

Groups titled “No limit teens”, “Young girls’ videos”, “active leaks, active nudes” and “Trinidad Candid Creepshots” were shared with the Sunday Express.

Within these groups explicit videos of children and young women stored on multiple Google Drives and one drive folder are being shared, according to the Humanitarian Foundation for Positive Social Change, a local NGO that has infiltrated a number of these groups using a Samsung A70 device since 2020.

Images and videos of child pornography are designated as “box-lunch” or “trini-porn” and are available to the public, according to foundation members, who asked anonymity for fear of being targeted.

Footage showing schoolchildren in Trinidad and Tobago undressing themselves, videos and images of a female pupil dressed in school uniform performing oral sex on a male pupil, also dressed in school uniform, and a full video of two adults engaging in sex acts in the presence of a child are among a number of disturbing-content videos being circulated within these groups.

Some groups, including the “Candid Creepshots” group, are also uploading photos of random women on the nation’s streets, taking up-skirt photos and sharing these among themselves.

Photographs of the faces, chests and buttocks of teens and women using public transportation, in stores, or walking have been sexualised in these forums.

Polls taken within the group ask members the ways in which the victims should be sexualised.

Plans within this particular group have been made to carry out a similar exercise with photos of children in uniform called “high school candid”.

Recordings of these interactions were shared with the Sunday Express. In examining the screenshots sent by the foundation, the Sunday Express found that people engaging in these groups were sharing images of the social media profiles of unwitting young women, asking for exchanges or trades, or whether other members possessed explicit content generated from them.

And among other things found by the foundation within these groups are advertisements of Venezuelan women engaging in sex acts with accompanying contacts, sexual videos and images of female prisoners in prison and sexual images and videos showing gang sexual activity with women.

“It is unclear if the woman consented to the said activity with multiple partners. However, it is being shared in a manner to ridicule the woman, for sexual gratification and for exploitation purposes (financial gain),” it said.

According to the foundation, these groups operate daily and prey on teenagers under the age of 18.

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Some groups, it said, have been operating since 2016.

The number of perpetrators are in the thousands, the group estimates. One profile attached to one of these groups depicted himself as a police officer, in one photo dressed in what appeared to be Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS)-branded attire, and in another holding a weapon.

The foundation last week responded to the Sunday Express’ expose on the prevalence of child grooming perpetrated by adult men on social media platforms.

In a matter of hours, the fake profile of 15-year-old Selina Ali created by the Sunday Express was met with hundreds of messages from adult men that ranged from disturbing to odd.

The fake profile had been subjected to explicit imagery from one adult male who claimed to be a plumber, at least one photo of self-harm, and a number of others attempting to meet with the child, incur information about her whereabouts and family life, or call or video-chat with her.

“U like it, U like it, U want to see the next one, How is ur butt small or big, Show urs too,” wrote the 22-year-old man after sharing a nude photo of himself with the profile.

Group chairman, 25-year-old lawyer Samira Sooklal told the Sunday Express last week that our attempt had accurately depicted the reality of child grooming online.

A report compiled by the group last week noted that in addition to the prevalence of child pornography, members of these groups had also engaged in an aspect of grooming and predatory behaviour towards children.

Some, it said, had harvested data on children through social media, sharing usernames, locations and identifying details with one another.

No police reaction

But according to the foundation, reports made by victims to the TTPS were met with little to no response.

“Based on our organisation’s research and discoveries, these online pornography rings have been in existence from as early as the year 2016, and were reported by various teenagers and university students to the police throughout the years.”

“Many victims have expressed that their reports were ignored, and they did not receive citizens’ receipts. Some who successfully made reports got no update on any investigation being conducted,” the group said last week.

Without a local police-initiated investigation into the matter, the group says it has since been advocating for the TTPS’ involvement between October 2021 and August 2022.

Twenty-five victims of these online pornography rings (ranging from 19 to 28 years old) were assisted, it said, with six victims of child pornography having made police statements.

In its report to the Sunday Express, the foundation said that with a delay of the passing of the Cybercrime Bill (2017) and Sexual Voyeurism (Sexual Offences (Amendment) (No 3) Bill (2021), victims were unprotected by local criminal laws and, as a result, were left to seek redress through civil action.

“Victims have indicated that they are consistently stalked, harassed and blackmailed as a result of these online rings or online sex trade, and some live in continuous fear for their safety and are traumatised and/or re-traumatised by their daily victimisation. Police officers also refuse to investigate matters which are not accounted for in criminal legislation and have expressly indicated the same to our organisation,” the group said.

The TTPS Cybercrime Unit, it said, currently lacks the technology required to investigate such matters.

However, even without appropriate technological support, the foundation added, investigations into these issues were not impossible.

“The individual testimonials and the evidence of victims who come forward are sufficient to start a criminal matter before the courts with respect to offence of child pornography under the Children Act (Chap 46:01). The TTPS can apply for warrants to obtain certain evidence on certain social media accounts and group chats from the different social media companies.

“The TTPS can request assistance from other police departments in the countries where the social media companies were incorporated. The TTPS can establish a task force and perform ‘sting operations’ to investigate the phenomena themselves,” it said.

TTPS in need of investment

Speaking with the Sunday Express last week, attorney and chairman of the Caribbean Community Against Sex Crimes Jonathan Bhagan said no studies on sexual grooming or human trafficking have taken place in Trinidad and Tobago.

Despite this, he said given the Caribbean’s high rape rates, the phenomenon of child online grooming was likely rampant.

Bhagan said the TTPS was in need of “significant” investments for technical skills to aid in dealing with issues of child sexual abuse online.

He said he had previously recommended a foreign consultant which could assist the Police Service in its technical endeavours to Cabinet ministers within the current administration.

However, he said the offer was refused.

In addition, he had previously advocated for the development of a global sex offender registry that did not receive support from the Government, he said.

“The TTPS cannot even manage its database effectively as the AFIS/Certificate of Character system crashes regularly. I offered Cabinet ministers in the PNM to bring in a foreign consultant in the form of a US-based company to assist the TTPS, but this offer was refused.

“I also pioneered a project that could reduce sexual grooming online for the whole world if implemented in partner countries, but have not gotten support from the sitting government. It is called the global sex offenders registry and was featured on Fox News in 2020, it would monitor registered sex offenders on social media so that if an American sex offender messages a T&T child on Snapchat, the communication can be monitored,” he said.

In T&T, the online Sex Offenders Registry went live in February.

It names 16 men, and gives the details of their crime, age, location and aliases.

Humanitarian Foundation working to make a difference

The Humanitarian Foundation for Positive Social Change comprises various professionals in the fields of law, business, IT and social work who have come together to make a difference in the local community.

In its report sent to the Sunday Express last week, the foundation stated its aims as the addressing of and advocating against gender-based violence (GBV).

It has a designated social work department, as well as a legal aid clinic that offers social support and subsidised legal services to clients.

Having helped dozens, the group says it works directly alongside the National Domestic Violence Unit, the Judiciary’s Domestic Violence Response Unit, and the Child Protection and Gender-Based Violence Unit of the TTPS.

“So far, we have assisted various families, including children and women in need in our community. We have built an international connection with an organisation in the United Kingdom, FiLiA (a woman-led volunteer organisation) where we consistently contribute to various discussions on women and child rights around the world,” it said.

“We are also a part of a Caribbean and Latin America committee of organisations for Meta Platforms Inc (Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp) wherein we directly communicate with policy makers and regional managers of the company to enforce community guidelines in online abuse situations that occur locally and regionally. We are also directly able to directly request certain reports and information from Meta pertaining to such situations,” said the foundation.

Legal protection

In Trinidad and Tobago, the creation, copying, publishing, distribution, transmission, purchase, exchange or showing of child pornography is outlawed in Section 40 of the Children’s Act.

The act states that should any of Section 40’s subsections be violated, the offender is liable, on conviction on indictment, to a fine of $30,000 and to imprisonment for ten years.

Additionally, Section 41 states that a person who intentionally exposes a child or causes a child to be exposed to pornography commits an offence and is liable, on summary conviction, to a fine of $5,000 and to imprisonment for nine months; or upon conviction on indictment, to a fine of $30,000 and to imprisonment for five years.

The Sunday Express was, however, told by the foundation that despite this, the TTPS was not actively investigating the presence of child pornography discovered in these groups.

We contacted the TTPS corporate communications channel and its Cybercrime Unit via e-mail on Friday to ask about their knowledge of online pornography rings.

No response was received.

Issues such as revenge porn and image abuse, however, remain unlegislated in Trinidad and Tobago, with the exception of the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Bill, No 3, 2021, which has not been passed by Parliament.

The act was introduced by the then-attorney general and minister of legal affairs Faris Al-Rawi in the Senate on December 7, 2021. It sought to insert four new sections that would address voyeurism, the taking and sharing of intimate images without consent, sharing of intimate images, and compensation and rectification.

The Parliament website shows that a Senate committee report has been laid.

But advocates told the Sunday Express the bill had been poorly drafted and could not be passed into law until “fixed”.

United States by comparison

In the United States, the production, distribution, reception and possession of child pornography are prohibited by federal law.

The US Code Title 18. Crimes and Criminal Procedure sections 2251, 2252 and 2260 cover the sexual exploitation of children, activities relating to material involving the sexual exploitation of minors and the production of sexually explicit depictions of a minor for importation into the United States.

People who commit child pornography could face severe statutory penalties.

First-time offenders convicted of producing child pornography under 18 USC Section 2251 could face fines and a statutory minimum of 15 years to 30 years maximum in prison.

Should the offender have prior convictions or if the offences occur in aggravated situations where the imagery pursued are violent in nature or if the minor was sexually abused, the offender could potentially face life imprisonment.

All but two states (Massachusetts and South Carolina) have separate laws dealing with revenge pornography, which vary.

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Revenge porn victims powerless

Hundreds of women across Tri­nidad and Tobago remain unpro­tected from the shame and torment of revenge pornography since existing laws fail to criminally penalise abusers who share intimate images of victims and continue to exploit them online, advocates say.

Highly organised predator groups are daily proliferating non-­consensual pornography, sharing by the thousands nude and expli­cit images of mostly young women which were stolen from them or posted without their permission.
Within these groups, multiple victims say abusers plan the trade in images, and the harassment of young women, both auctioning and hunting for the content.

“Who have she?” “Anyone have this girl,” asked group members in multiple screenshots sent to the Sunday Express over the course of the past three months.

Some victims were blackmailed, stalked and threatened by the members of the various Telegram, WhatsApp, MeWe, Discord and Twit­­­ter groups which are still functional, the Sunday Express understands.

The groups are currently at the centre of a constitutional motion filed by the Humanitarian Founda­tion for Positive Social Change (HFPSC), in an attempt to seek justice for victims of child pornography whose explicit images were shared within their forums.

But they are just as often used to trade or source other heinous content such as sexual abuse videos and thousands of explicit images of young women of various ages, advocates say.

Often suffering psychological and personal challenges as a result, many say they were turned away by police, or told to file civil actions against their abusers.

‘I was like an object’

In April 2020, 24-year-old Reshma* received a disturbing message from an Instagram follower she did not know.

He told her explicit videos of her nude body had been leaked and were being circulated on a large scale online.

The videos, filmed with an ex-­partner depicting the young woman in intimate acts, had been ripped from her Google account by an unknown perpetrator and shared by the hundreds on multiple digital networking platforms.

Members of pornographic groups soon learned her full legal name, provided to them by someone she knew.

The video was shared with a screenshot of her personal social media accounts.

And then the messages came in.

“They asked me what my price is, what I could send to them, what my name is, if I could help them to get off, and asked for details about my body. I got hundreds of messa­ges...I was harassed on both Facebook and Instagram. I am still so very scared whenever I get a message because I don’t know if it will be the same thing,” Reshma told the Sunday Express last week.

Reshma is one of a large number of victims of non-consensual pornography, whose intimate images have been shared, saved and reshared by thousands of online predators in T&T.

Having joined some of these platforms to report the videos, she says she found that the groups were filled with sexual content and frequented by predators who seek to further harass victims.

“They mentioned girls’ names, where they were working, whether they were in UWI. They would say ‘I have her’ and ‘I have this’ and ‘I could get that for you’. They were actively trying to get things from girls,” Reshma said.

“It was scary because people did not care because they were saying the worst things. Some men would go to the ends of the earth to see and share these things, and nobody cared. I was like an object at that point,” she added.


Threatened

For 21-year-old Alison*, her private, intimate images were used to blackmail her into maintaining a sexual relationship with a young man she knew.

The abuser, she said, manipulated her into creating explicit content and later threatened to spread the ima­ges if she stopped “coming back”.

And in July 2021, the images were posted on Telegram, his face obscured, hers on full display.

The personal images went viral, shared to thousands in the weeks following their release.

“He threatened me. He didn’t want me to leave the relationship. The same day, it went viral all over and people contacted me about it. He put it out there on Telegram. I had to seek therapy and it took a toll on me. It was not a nice experience. I had a lot of anxiety attacks because every time I got over it, something new would always happen,” she said.

The young woman, who told the Sunday Express that she had been permanently psychologically scarred by the events, said her job and personal life had been affected in the aftermath.

Battling anxiety, she said she had soon after visited police to seek redress, and was told nothing could be done.

She has since filed a civil claim of defamation against her abuser. The matter is ongoing.


Manipulated

Sharlene*, who entered a relationship at the age of 21, told the Sunday Express she had been manipulated into creating explicit ima­ges by her 29-year-old partner at the time.

By 2022, she said the relationship had run its course, but the images had been leaked and shared to thousands on various groups, and to popular Facebook and Instagram pages.

The imagery had received such a wide viewership that she was let go from her place of work in the aftermath, she said.

And since then, she has lived in constant depression and fear, she said.

“He might not feel the embarrassment of it, but it is affecting me in every way possible. Since learning about the videos and him sharing it, when I got to know about it, I was devastated, I almost went into a depression. Someone pointed out to me, saying, ‘Look at the girl from the videos’.

“I was basically shut out. I could not eat or function. It messed me up to the point where I said I needed counselling because it affected me mentally. While I was working, the first video came out, and my HR manager saw it and said this is not the kind of thing I want for the company, so they let me go,” she said last week.


The laws

As revenge pornography or non-consensual pornography remains unlegislated, victims and advocates alike told the Sunday Express that attempts to seek aid through law enforcement were futile, several being told by police officers not much could be done.

In August 2021, a report was sent to the Cyber Crime Unit by one victim who found that explicit images of herself had been posted to a pornographic Twitter account.

A police response, which was forwarded to the Sunday Express, conceded the inability of law enforcement to assist as the incident was not covered by the laws of Trinidad and Tobago.

Police advised the young woman to instead pursue a civil action against her abuser.

“If the video or picture of a private nature was something a few persons had access to, then it would mean that it was leaked by someone within the circle of the person who had it. If you are aware of who leaked and posted the video/picture, you reserve the right to (retain) the services of an attorney-at-law and pursue a civil suit against that person and be successful,” the police e-mail says.

Though offences such as harassment, the sharing of unauthorised data and unwelcome intimidatory acts are outlawed in the Computer Misuse Act, the Domestic Violence Amendment Bill (2020) and the Offences Against a Person Act, advocates say the closest the country has come since in legislating against this offence is the Sexual Offences (Amendment) (No 3) Bill, 2021.

Brought to the Senate by then attorney general Faris Al-Rawi in December 2021, the Amendment to the Sexual Offences Act sought to criminalise voyeuristic behaviour and the taking and sharing of intimate images without consent in four new sections, 22 (A-D).

Under Section 22 B, intimate images taken and shared without consent, taken for the purpose of humiliating or creating distress of a person or taken for the purpose of sexual gratification is punishable by a fine of $250,000 and two years’ imprisonment or $750,000 and five years’ imprisonment upon conviction on indictment.

During the bill’s second reading in January 2022, Al-Rawi cited the judgment delivered by High Court judge Frank Seepersad in the case of Therese Ho v Lendl Simmons, noting, “A major lacuna in the laws of Trinidad and Tobago as it relates to privacy and the criminalisation of privacy.”

“Are these alien concepts in Trinidad and Tobago? Can we not all speak to seeing ridiculous, terrifying, dangerous assassinations of character on an almost minute-by-minute basis in this country? Where do we draw the line, honourable senators? When do we begin to protect, honourable senators? How do we ensure that our most vulnerable are protected?” said Al-Rawi.


Recommendations

In 2022, the HFPSC submitted a legal recommendation to the Attorney General and to the parliamentary subcommittee on the amendment, which noted a number of flaws within its wording.

These included a failure to criminalise the saving or storing of intimate images to electronic devices, a failure to consider anonymous offenders and incitement, among others.

These considerations, the foundation argued, were essential to addressing the phenomena of the online rings in which these materials were being circulated.

The inclusion of offences for the saving and storing on electronic devices, and incitement, it said, would enable officers to investigate persons who participate in these groups and to note the persuasive elements within these forums to seek out victims’ personal accounts and encourage hacking.

“Online sexual abusers commonly save media (photos and videos) of a person without their consent. It is expected that participants of ‘sex trade’ internet chat rooms would save thousands of intimate photos of women and teenagers across Trinidad and Tobago.

“Including this as an offence would enable officers of the Police Service to investigate and search electronic devices of persons who participate in sex trade online groups and charge them with the offence if found with these images and videos illegally.

“Thousands of women and girls across Trinidad and Tobago, face distress and fear due to incitement to stalk, harass and rape them as a result of how their private information and photos were shared, especially on online ‘sex trade’ group chats dedicated to non-consensually circulating the intimate photos of women and children.

“Women and young girls across Trinidad and Tobago are depending of legislation, such as this, to ensure their everyday safety against such online sexual abusers and our legislation must therefore fully be able to protect them against incitement and sexual harassment,” it states.

The foundation also recommended a provision providing police with investigative powers to identify anonymous perpetrators through the use of supporting legislation such as the Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters Act, Chap 11:24—an agreement between Trinidad and Tobago and the United States to provide mutual assistance “in accordance with the provisions of this Treaty, in connection with the investigation, prosecution, and prevention of offences, and in proceedings related to criminal matters”.

An anonymous recommendation collated by legal professionals and submitted to the Attorney General in 2020 was also shared with the Sunday Express. The recommendation notes that given investigatory powers, the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service could initiate formal enquiries to social media companies on which predatory groups are hosted.

“In consideration of the law and procedure outlined, our law enforcement agencies can certainly approach these social media companies for mutual assistance with these criminal activities. With technology, new methods of committing Gender Based Violence crimes against women through computer misuse, is a matter of public policy and an investigation in these crimes should be done to curb its occurrence now and in the near future,” it said.

The recommendation also called for the passing of the Cybercrime Bill (2017), which it said would more clearly outline the investigative powers of the police in these crimes.

“It should therefore be considered one of Parliament’s priorities since if left unregulated, such crimes would exacerbate and can be considered hubs for acquiring targets for serious crimes such as human trafficking,” it said.

As it stands, the Sexual Offences Amendment No 3 has not been passed in Parliament, its last updated status via the official parliamentary website notes that the Senate’s subcommittee report was laid in June 2022.

* The names of all victims were changed to protect their identities.


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this is a good article thank you for posting it

And since then, she has lived in constant depression and fear, she said.

“He might not feel the embarrassment of it, but it is affecting me in every way possible. Since learning about the videos and him sharing it, when I got to know about it, I was devastated, I almost went into a depression. Someone pointed out to me, saying, ‘Look at the girl from the videos’.

“I was basically shut out. I could not eat or function. It messed me up to the point where I said I needed counselling because it affected me mentally. While I was working, the first video came out, and my HR manager saw it and said this is not the kind of thing I want for the company, so they let me go,” she said last week.

how is this legal. the woman is the victim of a crime and gets fired as a result

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this is a good article thank you for posting it

And since then, she has lived in constant depression and fear, she said.

“He might not feel the embarrassment of it, but it is affecting me in every way possible. Since learning about the videos and him sharing it, when I got to know about it, I was devastated, I almost went into a depression. Someone pointed out to me, saying, ‘Look at the girl from the videos’.

“I was basically shut out. I could not eat or function. It messed me up to the point where I said I needed counselling because it affected me mentally. While I was working, the first video came out, and my HR manager saw it and said this is not the kind of thing I want for the company, so they let me go,” she said last week.

how is this legal. the woman is the victim of a crime and gets fired as a result

Huh?
1. If you are considered an at-will employee, your employer doesn't need a reason to fire you.
2. It was her porn to begin with. The leak of the images can't be illegal if there are no laws to preclude it.
3. Any digital media or messages that you create stand an excellent chance of being copied.

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revenge porn is illegal in t&t, hth stink man

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Postby adnj » June 4th, 2023, 11:25 am

paid_influencer wrote:revenge porn is illegal in t&t, hth stink man
Did the partner post all of the of the content on every site? If not, then no. The content is in the wild. Now it's a civil case, not criminal. And she's still lost her job because of poor personal choices.

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Postby paid_influencer » June 4th, 2023, 11:31 am

adnj wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:revenge porn is illegal in t&t, hth stink man
Did the partner post all of the of the content on every site? If not, then no. The content is in the wild. Now it's a civil case, not criminal. And she's still lost her job because of poor personal choices.


your post have a real stink man vibes bro

you castigating to woman for sharing pictures in an intimate relationship but
-you would welcome said pictures
-you would jack off to said pictures
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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby DMan7 » June 4th, 2023, 11:33 am

Sooo that woman wasn't aware that she was being recorded?

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby adnj » June 4th, 2023, 11:44 am

DMan7 wrote:Sooo that woman wasn't aware that she was being recorded?

she had been manipulated into creating explicit ima­ges

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... afc19.html

Poor personal choices.

paid_influencer wrote:
adnj wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:revenge porn is illegal in t&t, hth stink man
Did the partner post all of the of the content on every site? If not, then no. The content is in the wild. Now it's a civil case, not criminal. And she's still lost her job because of poor personal choices.


your post have a real stink man vibes bro

you castigating to woman for sharing pictures in an intimate relationship but
-you would welcome said pictures
-you would jack off to said pictures

1. You make some relatively disturbing and vivid accusations.
2. She made poor personal choices.
3. Use a Polaroid and 8mm.
4. If you're going to act like an adult then be an adult.

You make poor personal choice on tuner every day. You take a position that you cannot adequately defend and then become agitated.
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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby DMan7 » June 4th, 2023, 11:46 am

How exactly was an adult manipulated into doing something like that? Does she have the feeble mind of a toddler?

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby paid_influencer » June 4th, 2023, 11:49 am

incels unite

I done with this thread for now

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby adnj » June 4th, 2023, 11:55 am

DMan7 wrote:How exactly was an adult manipulated into doing something like that? Does she have the feeble mind of a toddler?
When the adult lacks the ability to take responsibility and seeks to rationalize their actions in public - also known as "playing the victim."

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby MaxPower » June 4th, 2023, 12:23 pm

Friends,

How many of us here have sent dick pics before?

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby alfa » June 4th, 2023, 1:31 pm

MaxPower wrote:Friends,

How many of us here have sent dick pics before?

:shock: Max I never figured you to be in them slackness

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby nervewrecker » June 4th, 2023, 1:32 pm

MaxPower wrote:Friends,

How many of us here have gotten dick pics before?


*Raises hand*

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby aaron17 » June 4th, 2023, 1:33 pm

I didn't know it have tnt catch a predator on youtube.

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby gastly369 » June 4th, 2023, 8:12 pm

Max "gabriel" power


*e-bounce

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby Monk BANzai » June 6th, 2023, 1:14 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Express article from March

Sex predator network

...Child porn, explicit images of young women being shared

Image

Sex predators in Trinidad and Tobago have formed more than 100 networking groups through which child pornography and thousands of explicit images of young women are being shared amongst themselves.


Source: https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... cb7d5.html


Very good article.. thanks for posting this....

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby Rovin » June 6th, 2023, 6:26 pm

ent d popo have a cyber crime unit, are they allowed to shut down or remove some of these groups\content, orr dise not dey wuk or is some of dem self who contributing to this sort of thing ...

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby Chimera » June 6th, 2023, 6:28 pm

Wha make u think cyber crime unit can shut down any of those things?

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby Rovin » June 6th, 2023, 6:32 pm

as in dise not dey wuk, dont have d technical abilities or legally unable to ?

.... or all of d above ?

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby paid_influencer » June 6th, 2023, 6:40 pm

whatsup have no legal presence on the island so idk if local authorities could charge them

but how these groups running when they clearly in violation of whatsup terms of service

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Re: On the issue of harbouring Pornographic materials locally...

Postby ed360123 » June 6th, 2023, 7:38 pm

paid_influencer wrote:whatsup have no legal presence on the island so idk if local authorities could charge them

but how these groups running when they clearly in violation of whatsup terms of service
Can't really hold WhatsApp liable for anything since they don't store the photos themselves.

Could probably charge the people who *in* the groups though, especially since they phone numbers will be visible in WA.

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