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Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:bluefete wrote:^^ Would it not have made more sense to buy the 2 boats from one supplier.
This would have minimised costs with respect to parts and maintenance.
But what do I know?
hand to mouth day to day maintenance. thats u think, thats how to live thats how to budget.
Wouldn't matter if we had 10 of the same boats, the sparing and maintenance would still be dismal once you have people in charge of these things who don't know, or care about sheit. Remember the oil pump issue that hobbled the Galleon's Passage?
Do you mean the raw water pump issue that occurred before it arrived in Trinidad after it crossed the large ocean in the world?
No Dumbo, the fact that a spare had to be flown in from half a way around the world to repair it
Certain things you really should stay out from
Of course that will happen, it was not at its home port, it was on its way to Trinidad to be delivered. Like really, that is your gripe?
Dotishee, do you even know what critical sparing is? Or lemme guess, your next argument is that the "home port" had the part, and it was easier to fly it from Oh Hee Oh Ho?
Like I said, stay in your lane
The part was not flown in from halfway around the world, it was sourced in Mexico and when they released they got the wrong part it was just repaired.
But continue to dig your hole of error. From it being an oil pump to it having to be flown in from across the world. I guess the next post won't be "oops I was wrong" but some beat up and insult fest.
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:
hand to mouth day to day maintenance. thats u think, thats how to live thats how to budget.
Wouldn't matter if we had 10 of the same boats, the sparing and maintenance would still be dismal once you have people in charge of these things who don't know, or care about sheit. Remember the oil pump issue that hobbled the Galleon's Passage?
Do you mean the raw water pump issue that occurred before it arrived in Trinidad after it crossed the large ocean in the world?
No Dumbo, the fact that a spare had to be flown in from half a way around the world to repair it
Certain things you really should stay out from
Of course that will happen, it was not at its home port, it was on its way to Trinidad to be delivered. Like really, that is your gripe?
Dotishee, do you even know what critical sparing is? Or lemme guess, your next argument is that the "home port" had the part, and it was easier to fly it from Oh Hee Oh Ho?
Like I said, stay in your lane
The part was not flown in from halfway around the world, it was sourced in Mexico and when they released they got the wrong part it was just repaired.
But continue to dig your hole of error. From it being an oil pump to it having to be flown in from across the world. I guess the next post won't be "oops I was wrong" but some beat up and insult fest.
De Dummy NOT listening yuh know! ArseFack, a critical thing like a cooling water pump should be on board the bloody vessel!!!!
Ah go wait while yuh go off on yuh usual dotish tangent about how I wrong because I say oil pump and not water pump so stupidly my whole point is invalid, like the "eet wasn't corruption/mismangement because eet was Sando and yuh say Port ah Spain KEKE KEKE KEKE"
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:
hand to mouth day to day maintenance. thats u think, thats how to live thats how to budget.
Wouldn't matter if we had 10 of the same boats, the sparing and maintenance would still be dismal once you have people in charge of these things who don't know, or care about sheit. Remember the oil pump issue that hobbled the Galleon's Passage?
Do you mean the raw water pump issue that occurred before it arrived in Trinidad after it crossed the large ocean in the world?
No Dumbo, the fact that a spare had to be flown in from half a way around the world to repair it
Certain things you really should stay out from
Of course that will happen, it was not at its home port, it was on its way to Trinidad to be delivered. Like really, that is your gripe?
Dotishee, do you even know what critical sparing is? Or lemme guess, your next argument is that the "home port" had the part, and it was easier to fly it from Oh Hee Oh Ho?
Like I said, stay in your lane
The part was not flown in from halfway around the world, it was sourced in Mexico and when they released they got the wrong part it was just repaired.
But continue to dig your hole of error. From it being an oil pump to it having to be flown in from across the world. I guess the next post won't be "oops I was wrong" but some beat up and insult fest.
De Dummy NOT listening yuh know! ArseFack, a critical thing like a cooling water pump should be on board the bloody vessel!!!!
Ah go wait while yuh go off on yuh usual dotish tangent about how I wrong because I say oil pump and not water pump so stupidly my whole point is invalid, like the "eet wasn't corruption/mismangement because eet was Sando and yuh say Port ah Spain KEKE KEKE KEKE"
sMASH wrote:Fleet Management 101: buy multiple kinds of vehciles.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Wouldn't matter if we had 10 of the same boats, the sparing and maintenance would still be dismal once you have people in charge of these things who don't know, or care about sheit. Remember the oil pump issue that hobbled the Galleon's Passage?
Do you mean the raw water pump issue that occurred before it arrived in Trinidad after it crossed the large ocean in the world?
No Dumbo, the fact that a spare had to be flown in from half a way around the world to repair it
Certain things you really should stay out from
Of course that will happen, it was not at its home port, it was on its way to Trinidad to be delivered. Like really, that is your gripe?
Dotishee, do you even know what critical sparing is? Or lemme guess, your next argument is that the "home port" had the part, and it was easier to fly it from Oh Hee Oh Ho?
Like I said, stay in your lane
The part was not flown in from halfway around the world, it was sourced in Mexico and when they released they got the wrong part it was just repaired.
But continue to dig your hole of error. From it being an oil pump to it having to be flown in from across the world. I guess the next post won't be "oops I was wrong" but some beat up and insult fest.
De Dummy NOT listening yuh know! ArseFack, a critical thing like a cooling water pump should be on board the bloody vessel!!!!
Ah go wait while yuh go off on yuh usual dotish tangent about how I wrong because I say oil pump and not water pump so stupidly my whole point is invalid, like the "eet wasn't corruption/mismangement because eet was Sando and yuh say Port ah Spain KEKE KEKE KEKE"
Ah yes the froth up.
The boat was on delivery to NIDCO, it was being done by a third party company. Since they repaired it on-site and not flown in as you originally claimed, then your issue with critical parts doesn't arise. The pump could have been repaired but they decided to source it within Mexico, but since it didn't work they repaired it.
The issue of maintenance and spares don't arise because we didn't have the vessel. You don't have an issue to complain about, so you hunting and pecking and facts don't matter, just how strong your beat up is.
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:Do you mean the raw water pump issue that occurred before it arrived in Trinidad after it crossed the large ocean in the world?
No Dumbo, the fact that a spare had to be flown in from half a way around the world to repair it
Certain things you really should stay out from
Of course that will happen, it was not at its home port, it was on its way to Trinidad to be delivered. Like really, that is your gripe?
Dotishee, do you even know what critical sparing is? Or lemme guess, your next argument is that the "home port" had the part, and it was easier to fly it from Oh Hee Oh Ho?
Like I said, stay in your lane
The part was not flown in from halfway around the world, it was sourced in Mexico and when they released they got the wrong part it was just repaired.
But continue to dig your hole of error. From it being an oil pump to it having to be flown in from across the world. I guess the next post won't be "oops I was wrong" but some beat up and insult fest.
De Dummy NOT listening yuh know! ArseFack, a critical thing like a cooling water pump should be on board the bloody vessel!!!!
Ah go wait while yuh go off on yuh usual dotish tangent about how I wrong because I say oil pump and not water pump so stupidly my whole point is invalid, like the "eet wasn't corruption/mismangement because eet was Sando and yuh say Port ah Spain KEKE KEKE KEKE"
Ah yes the froth up.
The boat was on delivery to NIDCO, it was being done by a third party company. Since they repaired it on-site and not flown in as you originally claimed, then your issue with critical parts doesn't arise. The pump could have been repaired but they decided to source it within Mexico, but since it didn't work they repaired it.
The issue of maintenance and spares don't arise because we didn't have the vessel. You don't have an issue to complain about, so you hunting and pecking and facts don't matter, just how strong your beat up is.
Your cacahole must be huge cuz you keep pulling things out of it.
A used vessel being delivered to a client halfway around the world HAS to have CRITICAL spares ON BOARD. Third party or NOT people who arrange these things properly ensure that all these details are worked out beforehand either via insurance, or doing a critical spare audit. For the millionth time, stay in your lane and leave these things for the big boys Also what you said there about the pump makes NO sense whatsoever but keep at it, I'm immensely entertained
Habit7 wrote:
It was not used, it was a brand new vessel and the part was repaired internally. The ppl who arrange these things are the boat builders. Are you saying Sea Transport "don't know, or care about sheit" about something that wasn't even a big issue and would be normal wear and tear for crossing the Pacific in a boat designed for shorter trips?
All wrong:
1 oil pump
2 part flown in from across the world
3 used boat
Habit7 wrote:
It was not used, it was a brand new vessel and the part was repaired internally. The ppl who arrange these things are the boat builders. Are you saying Sea Transport "don't know, or care about sheit" about something that wasn't even a big issue and would be normal wear and tear for crossing the Pacific in a boat designed for shorter trips?
All wrong:
1 oil pump
2 part flown in from across the world
3 used boat
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:
It was not used, it was a brand new vessel and the part was repaired internally. The ppl who arrange these things are the boat builders. Are you saying Sea Transport "don't know, or care about sheit" about something that wasn't even a big issue and would be normal wear and tear for crossing the Pacific in a boat designed for shorter trips?
All wrong:
1 oil pump
2 part flown in from across the world
3 used boat
The only thing wrong is your continual excusing and apologizing the LFD RFD PNM in EVERY SINGLE THING.
You know nothing about moving million dollar equipment across the world and what it entails, but here you are arguing it based on nothing but a desire to paint your LFD RFD Gods in the best light possible. You seriously cannot tell me you expect a ship to cross an ocean minus critical spares, or have the wrong part ordered, or having to repair the original part as normal. If so, again, you know nothing about asset management and procurement.
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:
It was not used, it was a brand new vessel and the part was repaired internally. The ppl who arrange these things are the boat builders. Are you saying Sea Transport "don't know, or care about sheit" about something that wasn't even a big issue and would be normal wear and tear for crossing the Pacific in a boat designed for shorter trips?
All wrong:
1 oil pump
2 part flown in from across the world
3 used boat
The only thing wrong is your continual excusing and apologizing the LFD RFD PNM in EVERY SINGLE THING.
You know nothing about moving million dollar equipment across the world and what it entails, but here you are arguing it based on nothing but a desire to paint your LFD RFD Gods in the best light possible. You seriously cannot tell me you expect a ship to cross an ocean minus critical spares, or have the wrong part ordered, or having to repair the original part as normal. If so, again, you know nothing about asset management and procurement.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:
It was not used, it was a brand new vessel and the part was repaired internally. The ppl who arrange these things are the boat builders. Are you saying Sea Transport "don't know, or care about sheit" about something that wasn't even a big issue and would be normal wear and tear for crossing the Pacific in a boat designed for shorter trips?
All wrong:
1 oil pump
2 part flown in from across the world
3 used boat
The only thing wrong is your continual excusing and apologizing the LFD RFD PNM in EVERY SINGLE THING.
You know nothing about moving million dollar equipment across the world and what it entails, but here you are arguing it based on nothing but a desire to paint your LFD RFD Gods in the best light possible. You seriously cannot tell me you expect a ship to cross an ocean minus critical spares, or have the wrong part ordered, or having to repair the original part as normal. If so, again, you know nothing about asset management and procurement.
You keep saying I don't know, yet you are the one getting it wrong.
Nobody is excusing or apologising for PNM. The boat didn't reach Trinidad yet. The manufacturer made a NEW boat, hired a company to transport it. And now in T&T under NIDCO's care, it is being maintained fine.
But you so must beat up and froth up and create stories out of thin air. PNM must be responsible for the boat they never started to maintain and all the details you are wrong about are irrelevant.
Ask yourself, is the issue me defending the govt with fact or you accusing them with lies?
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:
It was not used, it was a brand new vessel and the part was repaired internally. The ppl who arrange these things are the boat builders. Are you saying Sea Transport "don't know, or care about sheit" about something that wasn't even a big issue and would be normal wear and tear for crossing the Pacific in a boat designed for shorter trips?
All wrong:
1 oil pump
2 part flown in from across the world
3 used boat
The only thing wrong is your continual excusing and apologizing the LFD RFD PNM in EVERY SINGLE THING.
You know nothing about moving million dollar equipment across the world and what it entails, but here you are arguing it based on nothing but a desire to paint your LFD RFD Gods in the best light possible. You seriously cannot tell me you expect a ship to cross an ocean minus critical spares, or have the wrong part ordered, or having to repair the original part as normal. If so, again, you know nothing about asset management and procurement.
You keep saying I don't know, yet you are the one getting it wrong.
Nobody is excusing or apologising for PNM. The boat didn't reach Trinidad yet. The manufacturer made a NEW boat, hired a company to transport it. And now in T&T under NIDCO's care, it is being maintained fine.
But you so must beat up and froth up and create stories out of thin air. PNM must be responsible for the boat they never started to maintain and all the details you are wrong about are irrelevant.
Ask yourself, is the issue me defending the govt with fact or you accusing them with lies?
De Dragon wrote:Soldier I've personally seen brand new equipment components fail. The FACT that somebody began a journey halfway around the world without a backup pump shows that something was missed. The FACT that the wrong pump was ordered was also a red flag. The FACT that we didn't have a supercargo or relevant on board also shows poor planning, poor execution, and obviously poor performance by whoever was in charge.
We can't be expected to know these things right? This being our very first ferry and all, and no one in the world to consult right?
You'd be singing a different tune if there was a LOP incident because of engine failure and the ship ended up on some reef or shoreline, but then again it's you , so your dotishness would probably remain, unless of course it was a UNC GORTT in charge
sMASH wrote:hmmn, the manufacturer put a gun to they head to sign the contract? u see how the procurement legislation sans the ammendments would have come in handy for this? hire 6 for 9 ship builders... lol
Wraith King wrote:Some users, in addition to being stupid, have mental issues.
Joshie23 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Some users, in addition to being stupid, have mental issues.
Yep, like characteristics fueled by an undying, pathological, borderline psychotic love and devotion to a political party/person/place/thing that btw, doesn't give a firetruck to know and/or care about their existence, that renders them incapable of anything remotely close to critical thinking, such that every word that is typed by their anonymous fingers on a keyboard or that fumigates out from their mouths (shoutout to Vicky ) descends into the abyss of racism, mudslinging, etc. and essentially hijacking every thread they can get their grubby little hands on.
Those kinds of mental issues. Sickening, ent?
Lettuce pray for them.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Soldier I've personally seen brand new equipment components fail. The FACT that somebody began a journey halfway around the world without a backup pump shows that something was missed. The FACT that the wrong pump was ordered was also a red flag. The FACT that we didn't have a supercargo or relevant on board also shows poor planning, poor execution, and obviously poor performance by whoever was in charge.
We can't be expected to know these things right? This being our very first ferry and all, and no one in the world to consult right?
You'd be singing a different tune if there was a LOP incident because of engine failure and the ship ended up on some reef or shoreline, but then again it's you , so your dotishness would probably remain, unless of course it was a UNC GORTT in charge
You understand this is completely different from your original claim?
You understand that you are criticising role of the manufacturer and the transport company BEFORE it arrived to T&T?
I know you want to find fault with what PNM does, you are free to do so. But when you lie about the incident, try to impugn the govt for something they don't manage and then at the end of the day it was inconsequential in the safe arrival of the boat, why bother?
PNM has so few things to criticise about you have to invent them?
sMASH wrote:when kamala got the first OPT a year late and the other two had the faulty wiring, they dealt with it, by seeking refunds, that ended up being settled. and bought 12 boats after.
even if the third party is at fault, the govt has the responsibility of ensuring value for money.
Wraith King wrote:Joshie23 wrote:Wraith King wrote:Some users, in addition to being stupid, have mental issues.
Yep, like characteristics fueled by an undying, pathological, borderline psychotic love and devotion to a political party/person/place/thing that btw, doesn't give a firetruck to know and/or care about their existence, that renders them incapable of anything remotely close to critical thinking, such that every word that is typed by their anonymous fingers on a keyboard or that fumigates out from their mouths (shoutout to Vicky ) descends into the abyss of racism, mudslinging, etc. and essentially hijacking every thread they can get their grubby little hands on.
Those kinds of mental issues. Sickening, ent?
Lettuce pray for them.
You specified Vicky like it's limited to UNC supporters when you've described the majority of PNM supporters. Projection seems to be the order of the day for the red and ready to stay uneducated crew.
It's more scary than sickening to witness cult like behaviour from such large groups of persons especially those capable of violence.
Did prayers cross your mind when Keith proudly and publicly insinuated he did black magic on Patrick? Did prayers cross your mind when the crowd cheered him like hyenas in the African jungle after he said that? Did prayers cross your mind before you posted that biased diatribe? Surely not because you were trying to project what you're guilty of as well unto a single group.
So go and pray if it pleases you now but remember various PNM members have spoken publicly about Les Couteaux and its "jumbies" so be wary of what you're praying to. Maybe that's why ships with dead bodies washing up on that island.
Carry on as it pleases you.
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