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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 1st, 2022, 10:20 pm

adnj wrote:
Miktay wrote:
adnj wrote:
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adnj wrote:More than 12 inches of sea level rise predicted by 2050.
I am further assured by your continued ignorance.



Some ignorance but mostly plain old common sense. And a healthy dose of skepticism.


Skepticism? Good..
Ignorance? Bad..

Skepticism is the cornerstone of investigation. Your "good old common sense," in the face of contrasting evidence, is simply an example of information bias. I could be wrong - but then again...


If u can’t convince the skeptics then your skating on thin ice…literally and figuratively.

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 4th, 2022, 3:14 pm

Due to the disastrously shortsighted environmental ‘friendly’ energy policies to assuage the Big Climate lobby some countries have begun stockpiling wood for fuel.

Where in the world iz thiz? Impoverished Latin American, Asian or African countries? Maybe.

But the trend has also arrived at the door step of prosperous first world nations.

Take Germany. Apparently global warming hasn’t happened fast enough to keep some Germans warm enough during the winter.

What a thing!
Germany: Stockpiling wood in fear of gas shortage
In search for alternatives to heating with gas, Germans are increasingly turning to wood. Wood-burning stoves are subsidized by the government, but experts warn of serious health repercussions.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-stockpili ... a-62601419

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 4th, 2022, 3:39 pm

In another country citizens burn their energy bills to protest the high cost.

Thiz again comes from a nation in the ‘first’ world. Italy.

Protests of this sort are starting all across the developed and the developing world.

Inquiring minds will ask…where oh where…iz the abundant clean energy that the Big Climate lobby promised?

*crickets chirping*

Oh my…
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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby paid_influencer » September 4th, 2022, 3:47 pm

well it important not to lose track of where we on the island fit in to all this climate change.

-we cyar do nothing to change the situation.
-we going to be railroaded by bigger countries' policy decrees.
-we going to deal with the ill effects of biosphere collapse and railroaded policies on both ends

one solution is what Mia Mottley put forward -- pledge to fund for small, developing, climate-vulnerable islands like ourselves when things get bad (and they will).

or linking up with larger countries in advance of the island habitat falling apart. Rowley did a massive thing when he started making deals with Guyana for food security. Maybe this can lead to better things -- maybe even Guyanese statehood when we turn into Easter Island.

and doh think our habitat so strong it cannot be destroyed. it happened to the tapir. when last you see a tapir? it can happen to us too.
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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 4th, 2022, 3:51 pm

paid_influencer wrote:well it important not to lose track of where we on the island fit in to all this climate change.

-we cyar do nothing to change the situation.
-we going to be railroaded by bigger countries' policy decrees.
-we going to deal with the ill effects of biosphere collapse and railroaded policies on both ends

one solution is what Mia Mottley put forward -- pledge to fund for small, developing, climate-vulnerable islands like ourselves when things get bad (and they will).

or linking up with larger countries for when the island habitat starts falling apart. Rowley did a massive thing when he started making deals with Guyana for food security. Maybe this can lead to better things -- maybe even Guyanese statehood when climate destroys our habitat.

and doh thing our habitat so strong it cannot be destroyed. it happened to the tapir. when last you see a tapir? it can happen to us too.


Here’s a little secret the Big Climate lobby doesn’t want u to know: Climate change iz less of a threat to world nations than iz the availability of cheap energy…

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby paid_influencer » September 4th, 2022, 3:52 pm

my point: world nations might not be so threatened, but small islands definitely are.

we are on a small island and we have no where to go when shiet turns bad.

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby pugboy » September 4th, 2022, 3:53 pm

nah them big countries getting bad licks with the heat and they never had to deal with that before
most of the buildings in europe designed for cool weather no ac

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby paid_influencer » September 4th, 2022, 3:54 pm

FOREVER PLASTICS

will kill us

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 4th, 2022, 3:54 pm

paid_influencer wrote:my point: world nations might not be so threatened, but small islands definitely are.

we are on a small island and we have no where to go when shiet turns bad.


That iza myth. Small nations are much more vulnerable to potentially starving masses than are large nations…

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby paid_influencer » September 4th, 2022, 3:55 pm

THE DUMP IS A GIANT SIEVE LETTING TOXIC CHEMICALS INTO OUR GROUND WATER

We have poisoned the island we will all die from our sins

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 4th, 2022, 3:56 pm

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paid_influencer wrote:THE DUMP IS A GIANT SIEVE LETTING TOXIC CHEMICALS INTO OUR GROUND WATER

We have poisoned the island we will all die from our sins


Again small potatoes…

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby adnj » September 4th, 2022, 4:27 pm

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The record-breaking rain would devastate any country, not just poorer nations, one climate scientist has told BBC News.

The human impacts are clear - another 2,000 people were rescued from floodwaters on Friday, while ministers warn of food shortages after almost half the country's crops were washed away.

A sense of injustice is keenly felt in the country. Pakistan contributes less than 1% of the global greenhouse gases that warm our planet but its geography makes it extremely vulnerable to climate change.

"Literally, one-third of Pakistan is underwater right now, which has exceeded every boundary, every norm we've seen in the past," Climate minister Sherry Rehman said this week.

Pakistan is located at a place on the globe which bears the brunt of two major weather systems. One can cause high temperatures and drought, like the heatwave in March, and the other brings monsoon rains.

The majority of Pakistan's population live along the Indus river, which swells and can flood during monsoon rains.

The science linking climate change and more intense monsoons is quite simple. Global warming is making air and sea temperatures rise, leading to more evaporation. Warmer air can hold more moisture, making monsoon rainfall more intense.

Scientists predict that the average rainfall in the Indian summer monsoon season will increase due to climate change, explains Anja Katzenberger at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.

But Pakistan has something else making it susceptible to climate change effects - its immense glaciers.

The northern region is sometimes referred to as the 'third pole' - it contains more glacial ice than anywhere in the world outside of the polar regions.

As the world warms, glacial ice is melting. Glaciers in Pakistan's Gilgit-Baltistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa regions are melting rapidly, creating more than 3,000 lakes, the the UN Development Programme told BBC News. Around 33 of these are at risk of sudden bursting, which could unleash millions of cubic meters of water and debris, putting 7 million people at risk.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62758811

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 4th, 2022, 5:15 pm

adnj wrote:Image

The record-breaking rain would devastate any country, not just poorer nations, one climate scientist has told BBC News.

The human impacts are clear - another 2,000 people were rescued from floodwaters on Friday, while ministers warn of food shortages after almost half the country's crops were washed away.

A sense of injustice is keenly felt in the country. Pakistan contributes less than 1% of the global greenhouse gases that warm our planet but its geography makes it extremely vulnerable to climate change.

"Literally, one-third of Pakistan is underwater right now, which has exceeded every boundary, every norm we've seen in the past," Climate minister Sherry Rehman said this week.

Pakistan is located at a place on the globe which bears the brunt of two major weather systems. One can cause high temperatures and drought, like the heatwave in March, and the other brings monsoon rains.

The majority of Pakistan's population live along the Indus river, which swells and can flood during monsoon rains.

The science linking climate change and more intense monsoons is quite simple. Global warming is making air and sea temperatures rise, leading to more evaporation. Warmer air can hold more moisture, making monsoon rainfall more intense.

Scientists predict that the average rainfall in the Indian summer monsoon season will increase due to climate change, explains Anja Katzenberger at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.

But Pakistan has something else making it susceptible to climate change effects - its immense glaciers.

The northern region is sometimes referred to as the 'third pole' - it contains more glacial ice than anywhere in the world outside of the polar regions.

As the world warms, glacial ice is melting. Glaciers in Pakistan's Gilgit-Baltistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa regions are melting rapidly, creating more than 3,000 lakes, the the UN Development Programme told BBC News. Around 33 of these are at risk of sudden bursting, which could unleash millions of cubic meters of water and debris, putting 7 million people at risk.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62758811

Wooo hoo ! More propaganda from the Big Climate lobby.

However sensible people have realized the Big Climate lobby iz full of hot air and rum shop talk.

Normal people worry more about having reliable cheap energy…than any cataclysmic ole talk az propagated by the Big Climate lobby and shills like adnj.

Case in point. France will restart all its nuclear power plants thiz winter.

But…but…but …wadda bout green energy power to save the planet…some people will ask?

Yes. What about those green energy nancy stories ?
PARIS, Sept 2 (Reuters) - French state-owned utility EDF will restart all its nuclear reactors, more than half of which are now closed for maintenance or technical issues, this winter, France's Energy Minister said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 022-09-02/

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 4th, 2022, 5:43 pm

Britain will soon elect a new prime minister. So what iz the biggest challenge facing the new PM?

Climate change?
The heat wave?
Rising sea levels?
Hurricanes?
War in the Ukraine?

No to all the above.

The biggest threat to the people of great Britian iz the rising cost of living.

Long lines at food banks…and soaring energy cost illustrate the problem.

One reads that 9 million UK people will likely face energy poverty thiz winter.

Unlike adjn…these people aren’t concerned about the possibility of cataclysmic climate change decades into the future. They don’t have that luxury.

They’re more worried about feeding their families and keeping the heat on now.

Becuz if they and their children can’t survive thiz winter…they won’t be around to worry about climate change ole talk.

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Yawn…That’s not new.

Inclement weather events have been a threat to humanity since the dawn of time.

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Postby pete » September 4th, 2022, 7:55 pm

Nuclear power is "green" as very little Greenhouse gases are emitted. The only issue with it is dealing with the waste.

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby nervewrecker » September 4th, 2022, 8:10 pm

pete wrote:Nuclear power is "green" as very little Greenhouse gases are emitted. The only issue with it is dealing with the waste.
Not so much with the increased demand for it in manufacture of nuclear diamond batteries.

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby matix » September 4th, 2022, 8:31 pm

Miktay wrote:


Yawn…That’s not new.

Inclement weather events have been a threat to humanity since the dawn of time.



Are you an expert on climate change?

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby pugboy » September 4th, 2022, 8:38 pm

one thing for sure is the global heat waves have been getting regular for the last 3-4 years and doesnt look to be getting better

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Postby maj. tom » September 4th, 2022, 8:49 pm

Cornell University:
More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change.
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change


‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
Trawl of 90,000 studies finds consensus, leading to call for Facebook and Twitter to curb disinformation
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans


Well I guess we have a 0.1% Global Warming expert scientist on Trinituner then. Rel bigshot Donkey avatar gracing we here yes. Would like to read his published studies on the subject.
Please share your DOIs. e.g. https://doi.org/10.1007/s41060-022-00311-6

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Postby adnj » September 5th, 2022, 5:00 pm

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It's a historic step forward, and one they hope could help revitalize Caribbean ecosystems and could pay humans back by offering extra protection from the fury of hurricanes.

Elkhorn coral once dominated the Caribbean. But, just as other vital coral ecosystems are degrading around the world, elkhorn are now rarely seen alive in the wild. This species — so important because it provides the building blocks for reefs to flourish — has been until now notoriously difficult to grow in aquariums.

Which is why scientists were thrilled when they saw their reproductive experiment was a success.

"When it finally happened, the first sense is just sheer relief." said Keri O'Neil, the senior scientist that oversees the Tampa aquarium's spawning lab. "This is a critical step to preventing elkhorn coral from going extinct in the state of Florida."

Named for its resemblance to elk antlers, the coral thrives at the top of reefs, typically growing in water depths of less than 20 feet. This makes their colonies crucial for breaking up large waves. During peak hurricane season, reefs are a silent but powerful ally that protects Florida's coastlines from storm surges, which are growing larger as sea levels rise.

"As these reefs die, they begin to erode away and we lose that coastal protection as well as all of the habitat that these reefs provide for fish and other species," O'Neil said. "Now there are so few left, there's just a few scattered colonies. But we're really focusing on restoring the elkhorn coral population for coastal protection."

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/04/us/e ... index.html

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Postby Miktay » September 5th, 2022, 10:01 pm

matix wrote:Are you an expert on climate change?


No. What’s ur point?

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Postby Miktay » September 5th, 2022, 10:06 pm

adnj wrote:Image

It's a historic step forward, and one they hope could help revitalize Caribbean ecosystems and could pay humans back by offering extra protection from the fury of hurricanes.

Elkhorn coral once dominated the Caribbean. But, just as other vital coral ecosystems are degrading around the world, elkhorn are now rarely seen alive in the wild. This species — so important because it provides the building blocks for reefs to flourish — has been until now notoriously difficult to grow in aquariums.

Which is why scientists were thrilled when they saw their reproductive experiment was a success.

"When it finally happened, the first sense is just sheer relief." said Keri O'Neil, the senior scientist that oversees the Tampa aquarium's spawning lab. "This is a critical step to preventing elkhorn coral from going extinct in the state of Florida."

Named for its resemblance to elk antlers, the coral thrives at the top of reefs, typically growing in water depths of less than 20 feet. This makes their colonies crucial for breaking up large waves. During peak hurricane season, reefs are a silent but powerful ally that protects Florida's coastlines from storm surges, which are growing larger as sea levels rise.

"As these reefs die, they begin to erode away and we lose that coastal protection as well as all of the habitat that these reefs provide for fish and other species," O'Neil said. "Now there are so few left, there's just a few scattered colonies. But we're really focusing on restoring the elkhorn coral population for coastal protection."

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/04/us/e ... index.html


Some reefs thrive. Others do not.

Again nothing Planet Earth hasn’t experience before. To attribute that phenomena to ‘climate change’ iz simple minded at best…

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby matix » September 5th, 2022, 10:25 pm

Miktay wrote:
matix wrote:Are you an expert on climate change?


No. What’s ur point?


Just a question fellow tuner.

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Postby adnj » September 5th, 2022, 11:35 pm

Miktay wrote:
adnj wrote:Image

It's a historic step forward, and one they hope could help revitalize Caribbean ecosystems and could pay humans back by offering extra protection from the fury of hurricanes.

Elkhorn coral once dominated the Caribbean. But, just as other vital coral ecosystems are degrading around the world, elkhorn are now rarely seen alive in the wild. This species — so important because it provides the building blocks for reefs to flourish — has been until now notoriously difficult to grow in aquariums.

Which is why scientists were thrilled when they saw their reproductive experiment was a success.

"When it finally happened, the first sense is just sheer relief." said Keri O'Neil, the senior scientist that oversees the Tampa aquarium's spawning lab. "This is a critical step to preventing elkhorn coral from going extinct in the state of Florida."

Named for its resemblance to elk antlers, the coral thrives at the top of reefs, typically growing in water depths of less than 20 feet. This makes their colonies crucial for breaking up large waves. During peak hurricane season, reefs are a silent but powerful ally that protects Florida's coastlines from storm surges, which are growing larger as sea levels rise.

"As these reefs die, they begin to erode away and we lose that coastal protection as well as all of the habitat that these reefs provide for fish and other species," O'Neil said. "Now there are so few left, there's just a few scattered colonies. But we're really focusing on restoring the elkhorn coral population for coastal protection."

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/04/us/e ... index.html


Some reefs thrive. Others do not.

Again nothing Planet Earth hasn’t experience before. To attribute that phenomena to ‘climate change’ iz simple minded at best…


That phenomenon (singular) is attributable to climate change.
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https://www.epa.gov/coral-reefs/threats-coral-reefs

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby matr1x » September 6th, 2022, 5:24 am

Majority of people agree that climate change is an issue. Why is the call for "give us more money" the first move they.make?

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Postby timelapse » September 6th, 2022, 6:16 am

matr1x wrote:Majority of people agree that climate change is an issue. Why is the call for "give us more money" the first move they.make?
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Postby meccalli » September 6th, 2022, 6:30 am

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... extinction
It'll be fine, maybe not for us but..life will go on.

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Re: Global Warming And Climate Change A serious threat?

Postby Miktay » September 6th, 2022, 11:43 am

matr1x wrote:Majority of people agree that climate change is an issue. Why is the call for "give us more money" the first move they.make?


Cuz the climate change lobby iznt really interested in the planet or people. Yet they've successfully duped millions into believing in the new climate religion.

What theyre really interested in iz the $.
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