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The Wildfires Thread - At least 110 killed in Hawaii wildfires, thousands of buildings damaged or destroyed

Postby redmanjp » October 13th, 2017, 1:10 am

It seems like since that 'Great American Eclipse' in August there has been disaster after catastrophic disaster in America.
Harvey, Irma, Maria, Las Vegas, now this


http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article178435431.html

Live updates: Death toll rises to 24 in California fires | The Sacramento Bee
 
Live fire updates: 31 people dead, thousands of homes destroyed

BY BENJY EGEL, SAM STANTON AND ANTHONY SORCI

begel@sacbee.com

OCTOBER 12, 2017 7:31 AM

6:30 p.m.

Sonoma County Sheriff Robert Giordano said Thursday night that two more people have been confirmed dead there.

Death toll now at 29 as Yuba County says four dead, possibly a fifth victim to come

Yuba County officials now say they believe four people have died in the Cascade Fire, and that possibly a fifth victim will be found. That brings the death toll from fires since Sunday to at least 29, the same number killed in California’s deadliest blaze, the 1933 Griffith Park blaze in Los Angeles. The current death toll stems from different fires: 15 dead in Sonoma County, eight dead in Mendocino, two in Napa and four in Yuba.

Fires being fought in city of Sonoma as death toll continues to mount

1:30 p.m.

Sonoma County officials say the death toll from wildfires from that county alone is now at 15, bringing the statewide total since Sunday to 29 fatalities. Sheriff Rob Giordano said the county also has had reports of 1,000 missing persons, and that 603 of those have been located and are safe.

Most of the 400 others likely will be found, but Giordano has made it clear that he expects the death toll from the fires to continue to mount as officials get into burned out neighborhoods and begin recovery efforts.

The danger to area communities continues, officials said, with active fires burning in and around the city of Sonoma. Calistoga remains under an evacuation order. Those cities, as well as Geyserville and Middletown, are communities that fire officials say are still under imminent threat.

Officials also revealed the first estimates of the destruction that hit Santa Rosa Sunday night, when entire neighborhoods were wiped out. Officials say 2,834 homes were destroyed along with 400,010 square feet of commercial space.

Death toll continues to increase, with Mendocino County now reporting total of eight

11:50 a.m.

Cal Fire says the death toll from California’s wildfires continues to increase, with a total of 26 since the blazes erupted in the north state Sunday night. The latest tally includes a total of eight from Mendocino County, where the Sulphur and Redwood Valley fires have been burning and where officials are deeply concerned about the prospect of high winds on Friday night.

Cal Fire Director Ken Pimlott said Thursday that 21 large fires now burning have scorched more than 191,000 acres and that 8,000 firefighters – including teams from as far away as North Carolina and South Carolina – are battling the blazes.

The state has 42 shelters set up that accommodated 4,800 people Wednesday night.

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WINE COUNTRY FIRESRed circles or squares on this map are actively burning areas, as detected by satellite. Orange circles have burned in the past 12 to 24 hours, and yellow circles have burned within the past 48 hours. Yellow areas represent the fire perimeter.

Source: National Interagency Fire Center

 

Road closures in fire-ravaged areas

10:55 a.m.

Caltrans updated a road closure map for the areas affected by the Northern California fires:

Dixon fairgrounds opened

10:30 a.m.

The Dixon May fairgrounds has been opened as a shelter to people fleeing Northern California wildfires.

Hundreds have arrived since the shelter opened Thursday morning, according to a fairgrounds receptionist. No supplies, personnel or other resources are presently needed, according to the Dixon Police Department.

Additionally, the Sacramento Police Department’s Youth Services Unit is holding a toy donation drive for affected families at the Walmart at 5821 Antelope Dr. until 1 p.m. They’ll hand-deliver new toys as well as hygiene equipment to designated sites Friday.

The Sonoma County toll now stands at 14 dead, 463 still missing

Death toll grows

9:55 a.m.

Sonoma County Sheriff Rob Giordano says 14 bodies have now been recovered from wildfires in his area, bringing the total dead from Northern California’s wildfires to 24.

Another 463 people remain missing, Giordano said, out of a total of 900 who have been reported missing the fires began Sunday night.

Many of those missing are expected to be found safe, the sheriff said, but the death toll is expected to continue to increase.

“I’d be unrealistic if I didn’t” think more bodies will be found, the sheriff said.

Search and rescue teams are using cadaver dogs and going to specific addresses of people reported missing. The condition of the victims has varied depending on how the fires swept over them.

“That is the reality of it,” Giordano said. “This next part is the rest of the reality: identification is going to be hard.

“So far in the recoveries, we have found bodies that were almost completely intact, and we have found bodies that were nothing more than ash and bones. There have been identifications in this case in a pile of ash and bones where there was a piece of metal left from somebody’s surgery like a hip replacement with an ID number on it and that helped us identify the person.”

Giordano added that some recoveries will have to wait until it is safe for teams to go into some neighborhoods.

“I promise you that we will handle the remains with care,” he said, adding, “We need to respect the loved ones and the families of the dead.”

Sonoma County has been the hardest hit of the fire zones, with thousands of people displaced and countless homes and businesses burned.

It also has been the scene of multiple arrests for looting. So far, the sheriff said, five people have been arrested on suspicion of looting, including two arrested inside a mandatory evacuation zone Wednesday night. Roughly 300 law enforcement officers, many of them from Bay Area departments, are patrolling the county along with 436 National Guard troops.

Shelter to open at Cal Expo

8:30 a.m.

An American Red Cross shelter will open Thursday at Cal Expo for people displaced by wildfires in Northern California. Supply vehicles are expected to arrive soon, Red Cross spokesman Stephen Walsh said, followed by an undetermined number of guests.

The Red Cross will provide bedding, food and water plus counseling and basic medical services, Walsh said. Another shelter is being established Thursday at Contra Costa Community College in San Pablo.

Cal Fire has confirmed 22 homes and several outbuildings were destroyed by the McCourtney and Lobo Fires in Nevada County. Residents who want to know if their homes were destroyed are encouraged to call 530-265-1218. The fires burned less than 1,000 acres combined.

Butte County will open a hotline at noon for residents affected by the LaPorte Fire (6,059 acres, 25 percent contained) and Cherokee Fire (8,360 acres, 60 percent contained). Residents who believe their homes may have burned can call 530-538-6824 from noon to 5 p.m. Thursday and 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Friday for verification and information about local resources.

 

Jerry Brown: 'We haven't seen anything like this in Northern California'

Gov. Jerry Brown gives an update on the California wildfires at an event in Sacramento on Thursday, Nov. 11, 2017.

Christopher Cadelago The Sacramento Bee

Cascade Fire at 45 percent containment

7:30 a.m.

Firefighters reached 45 percent containment on the Cascade Fire on Thursday morning, beginning to suppress one of the infernos terrorizing Northern California this week.

The fire has burned 10,171 acres of the Yuba County town of Loma Rica, killing at least four people and demolishing entire neighborhoods.

Twenty-three people in Napa, Sonoma, Yuba and Mendocino counties have died and hundreds remain missing in this week’s fires, which began Sunday night as 75 mph gusts swept Northern California. Each of the 22 fires’ cause remains undetermined.

Very little remains of a structure on a property along Lone Tree Road near Loma Rica on Tuesday, October 10, 2017.

Randall Benton rbenton@sacbee.com

In Sonoma County, where 13 of the dead were found, the Tubbs Fire has spread to 34,270 acres and is 10 percent contained, as of early Thursday. Fires have so far spared the town of Sonoma, but The Press-Democrat reported deputies circled the main plaza Wednesday night, urging residents to evacuate over loudspeakers.

California Highway Patrol officers also went door-to-door in select neighborhoods urging residents to consider evacuating.

Residents in a rural community just north of town received mandatory evacuation orders Wednesday night. The Napa County Sheriff’s Office has also issued evacuation warnings to some residents in the city of Napa.

In Mendocino County, Kai Shepherd, 14, of Redwood Valley, was reportedly found dead in his family’s driveway. Shepherd’s mother and sister each suffered burns on about 60 percent of their bodies, according to a Generosity.com page established by Shepherd’s aunt Mindi Ramos. Shepherd’s father sustained burns on 45 percent of his body.

The Sonoma County Sheriff's Office shared a video of fire crews fighting one of the many fires burning in the county on Wednesday, Oct. 11.

Sonoma County Sheriff's Office

 

You have 10 minutes to evacuate. Are you ready?



Nicole L. Cvetnic McClatchy

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Postby sMASH » October 13th, 2017, 2:04 am

Those fires going on months now....

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Postby Numb3r4 » October 14th, 2017, 1:03 pm

The end is nigh.

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Postby Cantmis » October 14th, 2017, 9:42 pm

Wildfires are normal there

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Postby shogun » October 14th, 2017, 10:11 pm

The Hurricanes, mass shootings and fires are deadlier/more severe than ever?

I wonder what could have America done to deserve this?

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Postby Dizzy28 » October 14th, 2017, 10:14 pm

shogun wrote:The Hurricanes, mass shootings and fires are deadlier/more severe than ever?

I wonder what could have America done to deserve this?

Apart from the shootings are the natural disasters statistical anomalies? Given they have 350m ppl its inevitable they would have some bigger numbers of casualties in disasters.

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Postby shogun » October 14th, 2017, 10:24 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
shogun wrote:The Hurricanes, mass shootings and fires are deadlier/more severe than ever?

I wonder what could have America done to deserve this?

Apart from the shootings are the natural disasters statistical anomalies? Given they have 350m ppl its inevitable they would have some bigger numbers of casualties in disasters.


ROFL. Dude take the bait, yes.

Calm down, It was a joke. i'm atheist and wouldn't believe in events like these being tied to some "higher" purpose.

With that said, it's a hell of a coincidence, given the succession though? No matter how you look at it.

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Postby cueball1990 » October 16th, 2017, 3:19 pm

i read an article that attributed the increased intensity of the wildfires to the no forest fires campaign they started years ago. apparently when there were smaller fires they cleared the underbrush in the forest which in turn prevented larger more dangeorus fires from spreading throughout the forest. so in essence by trying to prevent any fires from happening allows for these huge ones to happen

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Postby Numb3r4 » October 18th, 2017, 1:38 am

The end is nigh.

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Postby maj. tom » June 8th, 2023, 9:29 am

Canada wildfires: Millions advised to mask up due to intense smoke

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65828469

Millions of people in North America have been advised to wear N95 masks outdoors due to poor air quality levels sparked by intense wildfires in Canada.

New York will begin distributing free masks on Thursday. Canada has said that people should wear a mask if they are unable to remain indoors.

The smog is expected to spread beyond New York to other East Coast areas.

Officials warn that the dangerously smoky conditions are expected to persist into the weekend.

Much of the smoke is coming from Quebec, where 150 fires are burning. It is already Quebec's worst fire season on record.


Overnight temperatures in the region have dipped dramatically for this time of the year. It's the same effect as a nuclear winter or volcanic eruption.

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Postby The Bamboo Online » June 8th, 2023, 10:41 am

I am in the thick of it less than 100km from the Canadian border. I can barely smell the smoke but when I get a wiff off it reminds me of trini bush fires.

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Mean while the Canadians still smoking it up.

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Postby redmanjp » June 8th, 2023, 3:31 pm

My sisters live in Boston and 1 of them have severe dust allergies. Luckily it no where as bad as New York. Of course that could change depending on the wind.

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You weren't kidding eh? Oh look, these are the same clowns who had the same anti-everything message during Covid, whose fish-IQ viewers knew that they were and still are smarter than real experts. We have a bunch of certified dumbass Fox News viewers here too.


Fox News guests and hosts mock people for wearing masks to block dangerous wildfire smoke

‘Are they all snowflakes?’ Fox hosts Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Jeanine Pirro mock dire health warnings as NYC records worst air pollution readings in the world
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nyc-smoke-wildfire-fox-news-b2354050.html

Fox News hosts have pilloried residents of New York and Washington DC for wearing masks after raging wildfires in Canada enveloped the cities in acrid smoke.

As New York recorded the worst air pollution in the world on Wednesday, a procession of anchors and guests on the right-wing network denied clear scientific evidence that the smoke was dangerous.

The Ingraham Angle host Laura Ingraham brought on guest Steve Milloy, touted as a former Trump Environmental Protection Agency transition team member, who claimed that the thick orange smoke that clogged the New York skyline this week was harmless.


Sean Hannity mocks New Yorkers for wearing masks to protect themselves from wildfire smoke
June 7, 2023
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/sean-hannity-mocks-new-yorkers-wearing-masks-protect-themselves-wildfire-smoke

SEAN HANNITY (HOST): Here's what nobody talks about. There is a science. You can get an advanced college degree in forestry. There's something called the controlled burns that climate alarmist cult members are all dead-set against. You see, if you have a controlled burn, that prevent the bigger fires like the one they're experiencing in Little Justin's neighborhood in Canada that's now making it smoke all the way down here.

CHARLY ARNOLT (GUEST): Yeah, I think a lot of people realize what's happening. They're remaining cool, calm, collected. I think, like you just mentioned, a lot of people are just having PTSD from seeing so many people wearing masks again.

HANNITY: By the way, what are two young, healthy people doing with a mask on?

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Postby ruffneck_12 » June 9th, 2023, 2:32 pm

maj. tom wrote:
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You weren't kidding eh? Oh look, these are the same clowns who had the same anti-everything message during Covid, whose fish-IQ viewers knew that they were and still are smarter than real experts. We have a bunch of certified dumbass Fox News viewers here too.


Fox News guests and hosts mock people for wearing masks to block dangerous wildfire smoke

‘Are they all snowflakes?’ Fox hosts Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Jeanine Pirro mock dire health warnings as NYC records worst air pollution readings in the world
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nyc-smoke-wildfire-fox-news-b2354050.html

Fox News hosts have pilloried residents of New York and Washington DC for wearing masks after raging wildfires in Canada enveloped the cities in acrid smoke.

As New York recorded the worst air pollution in the world on Wednesday, a procession of anchors and guests on the right-wing network denied clear scientific evidence that the smoke was dangerous.

The Ingraham Angle host Laura Ingraham brought on guest Steve Milloy, touted as a former Trump Environmental Protection Agency transition team member, who claimed that the thick orange smoke that clogged the New York skyline this week was harmless.


Sean Hannity mocks New Yorkers for wearing masks to protect themselves from wildfire smoke
June 7, 2023
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/sean-hannity-mocks-new-yorkers-wearing-masks-protect-themselves-wildfire-smoke

SEAN HANNITY (HOST): Here's what nobody talks about. There is a science. You can get an advanced college degree in forestry. There's something called the controlled burns that climate alarmist cult members are all dead-set against. You see, if you have a controlled burn, that prevent the bigger fires like the one they're experiencing in Little Justin's neighborhood in Canada that's now making it smoke all the way down here.

CHARLY ARNOLT (GUEST): Yeah, I think a lot of people realize what's happening. They're remaining cool, calm, collected. I think, like you just mentioned, a lot of people are just having PTSD from seeing so many people wearing masks again.

HANNITY: By the way, what are two young, healthy people doing with a mask on?



The difference is, dust is tangible and real :mrgreen:

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Postby adnj » June 9th, 2023, 4:09 pm

Softneck,

You can read reading but you can't read writing.

The captioned articles described how Fox News personalities explained that the smoke was not a threat. In other words, the smoke was not real.

There are people in this world that understand what reality entails. There are those that see something that has little to do with reality but still believe it as real. Then there are those that live in a world of their own creation where they are smart, funny, wealthy, and good looking - but none of those things are true. That is the true Third World.

That is your world, sweet, gentle, Softneck. Thank for sharing it with us, yet again.

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Postby ruffneck_12 » June 10th, 2023, 9:46 am

You believe the news that much?

You seeing the sky blotted out and you can't see down the road... but you think the air would be safe to breathe? :lol:

Go eat your bug burgers and get back in your pod boy. Wait for the next cave shadow puppet show.

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Postby sMASH » June 10th, 2023, 11:06 am

Fookin' mr putin fires.

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Postby maj. tom » August 10th, 2023, 10:58 am

At least 36 killed on Maui as fires burn through Hawaii and thousands race to escape
https://apnews.com/article/hawaii-wildfire-maui-lahaina-f5a7047d407f836f89e90dd7f10faa94

WAILUKU, Hawaii (AP) — Thousands of people raced to escape homes in Maui as blazes swept across the Hawaiian island, destroying parts of a centuries-old town and killing at least 36 people in the deadliest U.S. wildfire in recent years.

The fire took the island by surprise, leaving behind burned-out cars on once busy streets and smoking piles of rubble where historic buildings had stood in Lahaina, which dates to the 1700s and has long been a favorite destination of tourists. Crews battled blazes in several places on the island Wednesday, and the flames forced some adults and children to flee into the ocean.

At least 36 people have died, according to a statement from Maui County late Wednesday that said no other details were available. Officials said earlier that 271 structures were damaged or destroyed and dozens of people injured. It is the deadliest fire since the 2018 Camp Fire in California, which killed at least 85 people and virtually razed the town of Paradise.

The fires were whipped by strong winds from Hurricane Dora passing far to the south. It’s the latest in a series of disasters caused by extreme weather around the globe this summer. Experts say climate change is increasing the likelihood of such events.

President Joe Biden ordered all available federal assets to help with the response. He said the Hawaii National Guard had mobilized helicopters to help with fire suppression as well as search-and-rescue efforts.

“Our prayers are with those who have seen their homes, businesses and communities destroyed,” Biden said in a statement.

Gov. Josh Green cut short a trip and planned to return Wednesday evening. In his absence, acting Gov. Sylvia Luke issued an emergency proclamation and urged tourists to stay away.


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Postby Dizzy28 » August 19th, 2023, 2:16 pm

Head of the emergency response agency was a lawyer with no background in emergency response

Head of the water agency is a wokester who delayed permission to release extra water to firefighters.

Seems human error was a major factor in making the disaster more serious than it should have been.
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Big corporations gonna scoop up the properties.
Manufactured crisis.

They could take Ukraine funding and rebuild, but no.
Let the people sell off to the mega rich

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sMASH wrote:Big corporations gonna scoop up the properties.
Manufactured crisis.

They could take Ukraine funding and rebuild, but no.
Let the people sell off to the mega rich


People in US states like Hawaii will typically carry homeowners or renters insurance for dwellings and belongings. You may not be able to relate.

You can also donate, if that is your preference.

Until insurance payouts are distributed, the US FEMA will attempt to fill the gap.

It’s overwhelming when a natural disaster destroys or severely damages your home, especially if you don’t have family or friends to stay with while you figure out your next steps. Because it can take a few days or longer to get help from insurance companies, you may qualify for Transitional Sheltering Assistance, a program created by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA.

Other helpful resources for emergency shelters include the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army, which let you search for shelters by ZIP code. You can also text the word “SHELTER” and your ZIP code to 4FEMA (43362). Spanish-language speakers can text REFUGIO and the ZIP code. You may be charged a standard text message rate.

FEMA’s Individual and Households Program offers a variety of financial assistance for disaster victims, including hotel and short-term housing reimbursement, short-term rent assistance, continued rental subsidies for up to 18 months while your home is being repaired or rebuilt, and financial assistance to pay for any home repairs your insurance doesn’t cover. You can apply for FEMA assistance on the agency’s website or by calling 800-621-3362.
Save receipts for any money you spend on temporary home repairs or hotels and other lodging while your home is uninhabitable. Your insurance company may reimburse you for these expenses; to get as much money back as possible, providing proof is key.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/homeowne ... lp-donate/

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adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Big corporations gonna scoop up the properties.
Manufactured crisis.

They could take Ukraine funding and rebuild, but no.
Let the people sell off to the mega rich


People in US states like Hawaii will typically carry homeowners or renters insurance for dwellings and belongings. You may not be able to relate.

You can also donate, if that is your preference.

Until insurance payouts are distributed, the US FEMA will attempt to fill the gap.

It’s overwhelming when a natural disaster destroys or severely damages your home, especially if you don’t have family or friends to stay with while you figure out your next steps. Because it can take a few days or longer to get help from insurance companies, you may qualify for Transitional Sheltering Assistance, a program created by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA.

Other helpful resources for emergency shelters include the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army, which let you search for shelters by ZIP code. You can also text the word “SHELTER” and your ZIP code to 4FEMA (43362). Spanish-language speakers can text REFUGIO and the ZIP code. You may be charged a standard text message rate.

FEMA’s Individual and Households Program offers a variety of financial assistance for disaster victims, including hotel and short-term housing reimbursement, short-term rent assistance, continued rental subsidies for up to 18 months while your home is being repaired or rebuilt, and financial assistance to pay for any home repairs your insurance doesn’t cover. You can apply for FEMA assistance on the agency’s website or by calling 800-621-3362.
Save receipts for any money you spend on temporary home repairs or hotels and other lodging while your home is uninhabitable. Your insurance company may reimburse you for these expenses; to get as much money back as possible, providing proof is key.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/homeowne ... lp-donate/
Follow this the next few months.

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Postby adnj » August 19th, 2023, 7:00 pm

sMASH wrote:Follow this the next few months.


Or, just look at Florida and California to understand how hurricanes and wild fires are handled in places where structure and dwelling insurance is prevalent.

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Re: The Wildfires Thread - At least 110 killed in Hawaii wildfires, thousands of buildings damaged or destroyed

Postby Dohplaydat » August 19th, 2023, 7:27 pm

Too many weird conspiracies are coming out of this. b

But the reality is, it's a huge disaster and the final death toll will probably exceed 500.

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