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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 19th, 2022, 3:16 pm

Before they go, give back the money they made here

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 19th, 2022, 6:32 pm

bluefete wrote:Max: Things are much better in Venezuela. Time to send your loyal Vene employees packing and save on US$.



blues,

Thanks for the clip.

But only they can make that decision.

Lives and ties were made in T&T…..love and prosper was found by many.

My advice….follow your heart.

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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 19th, 2022, 6:34 pm

matr1x wrote:Before they go, give back the money they made here


Trinis need to give back the money they stole due to corruption and smartmanism.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Rovin » June 19th, 2022, 8:55 pm

i was now looking to see if anybody posted that vennie vid , hadda admit that retail place looks nice

did he say 8 usd is d minimum wage per hr or is per mth ? , either i eh hear good or he making mistake there cause it cant be per hr otherwise all dem local vennies pack up & gone back to their homeland ... its because their buying power for what they work over there is why many work\live here in T&T

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 19th, 2022, 10:38 pm

Why are we rushing our Venezuelans to leave?

That is their choice and their choice alone. The majority of the population accepts them and the small portion of xenophobic Trinis is just old noise and sufferers.

Many have found their new home and families right here in T&T.

Btw anyone pushing for our illegal Trinis in US and UK etc return home?

We need to mind our own business.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby gastly369 » June 19th, 2022, 10:51 pm

Rovin wrote:i was now looking to see if anybody posted that vennie vid , hadda admit that retail place looks nice

did he say 8 usd is d minimum wage per hr or is per mth ? , either i eh hear good or he making mistake there cause it cant be per hr otherwise all dem local vennies pack up & gone back to their homeland ... its because their buying power for what they work over there is why many work\live here in T&T
Yep per month saw other vlogs on YouTube

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 19th, 2022, 11:57 pm

MaxPower wrote:Why are we rushing our Venezuelans to leave?

That is their choice and their choice alone. The majority of the population accepts them and the small portion of xenophobic Trinis is just old noise and sufferers.

Many have found their new home and families right here in T&T.

Btw anyone pushing for our illegal Trinis in US and UK etc return home?

We need to mind our own business.



They can leave or be made to. Their choice

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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 20th, 2022, 12:07 am

matr1x wrote:
They can leave or be made to. Their choice


Be made to by who and when?

They are already making their choices as they please.

Just let it go. Waiting around for years and years for a matter that no one cares about will just stress you out.

I know it’s eating you up inside that you cannot do anything and all you can do is yap. But take my advice bro……let it go. You and your petty small team of xenophobic Trinis probably rel beating up that your cries are being ignored…but allyuh cannot win this now.

Let it go.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 20th, 2022, 12:54 am

It's a game of attrition.

And those fake rape reports. Did the venes seriously think people would fall for that nonsense?

The real danger is the sludge, I mean children they had here. Also their whore culture of having their titties and bottom hanging out and not a shred of decency. They can take that with them

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 20th, 2022, 12:59 am

On Friday an incident happened in chaguanas. A female pensioner was stabbed and robbed by a vene.

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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 20th, 2022, 12:59 am

matr1x wrote:It's a game of attrition.

And those fake rape reports. Did the venes seriously think people would fall for that nonsense?

The real danger is the sludge, I mean children they had here. Also their whore culture of having their titties and bottom hanging out and not a shred of decency. They can take that with them


What about the Trini men that are raping our women in this country? This pleases you ent?

Are those reports fake?

These are the more important issues we should be addressing.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 20th, 2022, 1:12 am

Just the vene reports are fake. No one raping them.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby RedVEVO » June 20th, 2022, 5:13 pm

^^

Venezuelans are here to stay and have been in T&T for decades - since before independence .

And even when Spain owned T&T . Venezuelans and Spain peeps are same identity .

Same beautiful peeps !

Did you all know that Angostura Bitters that has been touted as a T&T product was originally made in Venezuela ?

T&T always claiming it's a T&T product . It was developed in Venezuela .

Venezuelans will make T&T HUGE again !

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 21st, 2022, 9:06 am

With all the arepas and sheit, huge is what they are.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby De Dragon » June 23rd, 2022, 9:18 pm

matr1x wrote:With all the arepas and sheit, huge is what they are.

And Caxxos still cyah get ah bool from any of them! :lol:

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 23rd, 2022, 9:44 pm

You think you hitting the lips, but is just vene fat rolls. Sweat and all

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 23rd, 2022, 11:49 pm

De Dragon wrote:
matr1x wrote:With all the arepas and sheit, huge is what they are.

And Caxxos still cyah get ah bool from any of them! :lol:


Not needed, i like my indian and creole women.

What about you? Love the Vene piggy?

After all, you are De Fagon.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby De Dragon » June 24th, 2022, 6:24 am

MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
matr1x wrote:With all the arepas and sheit, huge is what they are.

And Caxxos still cyah get ah bool from any of them! :lol:


Not needed, i like my indian and creole women.

What about you? Love the Vene piggy?

After all, you are De Fagon.

Lame as usual, :roll:
But on the bright side, yuh employee free 2 piece increase in value, so when yuh selling it to run dong Vene nanny/cocoloks in vain, yuh getting ah 2-3 dollars extra :lol:

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2022, 10:06 am

To the illegal vene women who get assaulted, I will tell them the same message trinis are told when facing the fact that the venes are here and here to stay, "sit down and take it".

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Chimera » June 24th, 2022, 10:24 am

matr1x wrote:To the illegal vene women who get assaulted, I will tell them the same message trinis are told when facing the fact that the venes are here and here to stay, "sit down and take it".



so are you saying illegal venes should not complain if they get raped or assaulted?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 24th, 2022, 1:42 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:
matr1x wrote:To the illegal vene women who get assaulted, I will tell them the same message trinis are told when facing the fact that the venes are here and here to stay, "sit down and take it".



so are you saying illegal venes should not complain if they get raped or assaulted?


It’s Slim we talking about here.

It’s doesn’t matter whether they are legal, illegal or even a local. Read back his posts, ANY woman getting raped he always assume they are at fault and it pleases him.

His fetish stems from constant rejection from women. You know those guys that when women see them they go…”EWW”? Well there you have it.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2022, 7:59 pm

If you put yourself in a situation, then you shouldn't waste ppl time

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 24th, 2022, 8:57 pm

matr1x wrote:If you put yourself in a situation, then you shouldn't waste ppl time


Ok handsome

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 25th, 2022, 3:09 am

matr1x wrote:Besides, they brought war to Trinidad. This time trinis will have to use whatever in the arsenal to fight back. And sexual violence may be one.


So you’re saying Trinis should rape Venezuelan men, women and children to “fight back”?

No wonder this world is so cruel and we have all these horror stories.

It’s because of disgusting animals as yourself.

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Postby matr1x » June 25th, 2022, 6:55 am

While I would not engage in such acts, the last time Spanish speaking sheitheads came to the west, the natives lost. So this is a version's where the Spanish lose.


Oh cry a river. You hate trinis, and glad when they lose their jobs to the venes.


Also, venes lied about why they were leaving, lied about their length of stay. Of course they would lie about rape

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Postby The_Honourable » July 15th, 2022, 9:55 am

Even a Vene win at the privy council against the pnm :lol:

Venezuelan migrant, son win Privy Council appeal over child deportation policy

An immigration policy, under which deportation orders were not issued to the children of migrants who are found to have entered this country illegally with their parents, may cost the State millions of dollars in compensation.

Delivering a judgement yesterday, five Lord Lords of the United Kingdom-based Privy Council upheld an appeal of a Venezuelan woman and her 14-year-old son, to whom the policy was applied.

The woman and her son were part of a group of migrant adults and children, who were detained when they returned to Trinidad three days after being escorted back to Venezuela in late 2020.

In a press release issued after the Privy Council delivered its judgement in the appeal, attorney Gerald Ramdeen, who represented the group, claimed the outcome of the case would affect all migrant children who were subject to the policy.

“Each child who was subject to this policy now has a legitimate claim against the State for the actions that were suffered by them. Of this group alone that entered the country with (name withheld), each of those 13 minors will now commence proceedings against the State for the unlawfulness that they suffered under the hands of this administration,” Ramdeen said.

Ramdeen also suggested that migrant children who were subject to the policy but who have already been deported alongside their parents, may also have a claim for compensation.

According to the evidence in the case, the family was among a group of migrants who were detained shortly after arriving in Chatham on November 17, 2020.

The migrants, the youngest of whom was four months old, were then held in custody at several police stations until they were placed on two civilian vessels and escorted out of T&T waters by the Coast Guard.

Three days later, they returned and were again detained. They were then quarantined and taken to the Chaguaramas Heliport, where they remain.

Most of the group filed lawsuits over the State’s handling of them, as deportation orders were issued to the adults but not the children.

The woman and her son sought and obtained three injunctions barring their deportation pending the determination of their case.

They also filed a habeas corpus writ seeking their release pending the outcome of the case, which was denied by both the High Court and Court of Appeal, leading to the final appeal before the Privy Council.

The day before the case was due to be heard by the Privy Council in March, a deportation order was issued to the teenager by the Ministry of National Security.

In determining the case, the Privy Council ruled that the teenager’s period of detention before the order was recently issued was unlawful, as such an order is required under Section 16 of the Immigration Act.

The law lords rejected the State’s claim that the teenager was covered by his mother’s deportation order under the policy.

“The correct interpretation of Section 16 is that absent such a deportation order there is no power to detain. Lawful authority to detain cannot be derived from the respondent’s policy,” Lord Stephens, who delivered the board’s judgement, said.

The board did not consider a challenge to the legality of the teenager’s recent deportation order based on delay, as it stated that it should be considered by the local courts in the family’s substantive case.

The board rejected the family’s claim that they should not be detained pending deportation, as they cannot be deported pending the outcome of the substantive case based on the injunctions.

“It would be an absurd consequence if an injunction granted to prevent the implementation of a deportation order, by a side wind, also had the unintended consequence of bringing the detention of an individual to an end,” Lord Stephens said.

“The absurdity of such a consequence would be even more apparent if there was a short period of detention up to the date of the injunction and there was a clear risk of the person absconding or committing further offences,” he added.

Although the board ruled that the local courts made five errors in law in determining that the family’s prolonged detention pending their legal challenges was not unreasonable, it stated that it would be inappropriate for it to perform its own assessment.

In his press release, Ramdeen described the outcome of the appeal as a “monumental victory” for the migrant population seeking asylum in T&T.

“The decision of the Privy Council exposes the unlawful executive action that has been perpetrated by this government against the migrant population, especially the children of the migrant population,” he said.

“The decision of the Privy Council evidences the blatant incompetence of successive ministers of national security of this government who promulgated, approved, oversaw and implemented a totally unlawful policy of detention ad deportation of children.”

The family was also represented by Tom Richards and Dayadai Harripaul, while Peter Knox, QC, Fyard Hosein, SC and Robert Strang represented the Chief Immigration Officer.

Source: https://guardian.co.tt/news/venezuelan- ... ec62db43e1

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby timelapse » July 15th, 2022, 10:18 am

Monumental victory for foreign squatters.This whole sheit show with them going to crumble in about 10 years or so.PNM 1% friends going to live high and dry while the poor fight for crumbs, very similar to Jamaica and Venezuela itself.Middle class going to feel the brunt of it, because the rich will always find a way around taxes.Men studying politics and giving people political asylum without understanding basic economics.
A massive increase in the supply of any particular good or service will drive the price down.The service in question is the labour market.This is where business owners are happy.People will be willing to work for less money..queue Max .
What they fail to consider is that buying power of their usual customer will be decreased.At some point or the other, people will manage their spending, whether by choice or by force.That labour induced profit that being made in the short term will not be sustainable.
Firetruck it, too early in the morning to try to talk sense .

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MG Man » July 15th, 2022, 10:25 am

timelapse wrote:Monumental victory for foreign squatters.This whole sheit show with them going to crumble in about 10 years or so.PNM 1% friends going to live high and dry while the poor fight for crumbs, very similar to Jamaica and Venezuela itself.Middle class going to feel the brunt of it, because the rich will always find a way around taxes.Men studying politics and giving people political asylum without understanding basic economics.
A massive increase in the supply of any particular good or service will drive the price down.The service in question is the labour market.This is where business owners are happy.People will be willing to work for less money..queue Max .
What they fail to consider is that buying power of their usual customer will be decreased.At some point or the other, people will manage their spending, whether by choice or by force.That labour induced profit that being made in the short term will not be sustainable.
Firetruck it, too early in the morning to try to talk sense .


how dare you interject with logic and critical thinking

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Postby Dizzy28 » July 15th, 2022, 10:35 am

timelapse wrote:Monumental victory for foreign squatters.This whole sheit show with them going to crumble in about 10 years or so.PNM 1% friends going to live high and dry while the poor fight for crumbs, very similar to Jamaica and Venezuela itself.Middle class going to feel the brunt of it, because the rich will always find a way around taxes.Men studying politics and giving people political asylum without understanding basic economics.
A massive increase in the supply of any particular good or service will drive the price down.The service in question is the labour market.This is where business owners are happy.People will be willing to work for less money..queue Max .
What they fail to consider is that buying power of their usual customer will be decreased.At some point or the other, people will manage their spending, whether by choice or by force.That labour induced profit that being made in the short term will not be sustainable.
Firetruck it, too early in the morning to try to talk sense .


Tell me more of this massive increase in labour supply.
Meanwhile there has been a near 7% fall in the labour size of TT between 2012 to 2020.

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https://www.central-bank.org.tt/statist ... rce-annual

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https://www.nibtt.net/Actuarial_Review/ ... report.pdf

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby hover11 » July 15th, 2022, 2:40 pm

Venezuelan Woman Denied Bail for Human Trafficking Offences

A Venezuelan woman charged with Gang and Human Trafficking offences, was denied bail when she appeared before an Arima Magistrate yesterday, to answer to several charges.

RAIDELIS NAZARETH NUNEZ LONGAL, 21, of John Shaw Avenue Arima, was charged with two counts of trafficking in children and supporting a gang leader, when she appeared before Magistrate Brambhanan Dubay, in the Arima Magistrates’ Court, on Monday 11th July, 2022.

The accused was one of five individuals arrested by a team of officers in Arima on June 4th, 2022, in connection with an alleged human trafficking and child prostitution ring.

RAIDELIS NAZARETH NUNEZ LONGAL was arrested on
July 7th 2022 after advice was received by the Director of Public Prosecution, Roger Gaspard SC.

The investigation was spearheaded by ACP Ramnarine Samaroo, coordinated by Snr. Supt. Christopher Paponette, Supt. Edwards and Insp. Pitt, and under the legal directions and advice of TTPS legal officer, Zaheer Ali.

Cpl (Ag.) Persad of the Northern Division Criminal Investigations Department conducted the investigation with the assistance of Cpl (Ag.) Antoine and other officers of the Special Investigations Task Force, as well as officers of the Immigration Division and Counter-Trafficking Unit.

As a result of this investigation, significant inroads are being made into human trafficking and the exploitation of women and children who are vulnerable.

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