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It was 1974,matr1x wrote:alfa wrote:matr1x wrote:88sins is not wrong. How have people become so soft?
In the late 70s 2 bus load of ppl from lavantille, on went to Felicity and the other to debe with the intention of robbing. Neither bus made it back.
That is what we need. They have their women and children here, and that is the leverage.
It was the 60s I believe and the two bus loads went to a beach in deep south having passed through debe. They decided to help themselves to a farmers watermelon field with no regard for the owner. On the way back the residents waited for them and ambushed said buses with a barrage of stones and put a cut tail on those who disembarked. Sadly this story has been lost in antiquity.
I know this one, but there was one in either 74 or 76
Do you want to be the parent that tells their child that an illegal population can just roll in and do what they please and pay no consequences?
I don't support illegal immigration, so I don't support illegal vene scum.MaxPower wrote:I ask again my dear friends,
Does the majority of the population of T&T support the Venezuelan community?
A simple Yes or No.
The answer to this question is a clear indication why the xenophobic cries from disgruntled and envious Trinis will go unheard.
Remember Trinis, yall did the exact same in the USA. Take a good look at the Caribbean community in Brooklyn/Queens/Liberty Ave/Little Guyana/NY etc and other “Trini areas”.
How many of you Trinis are there because you or your family entered illegally?
What gave you Trinis the right to have your own little community in someone else country? Entitlement?
How did the locals feel when they saw Trinis and Guyanese etc breed rapidly and basically infest and colonize the area?
Why is that area always so stink, boisterous over populated?
And Trinis quick to laugh keekeekaka and say Venezuelans crowd up in apartments when Trinis living like sardines in basements and sheity dry wall apartments.
But yeh ok, get the Venezuelans out of T&T. They cannot also come looking for a better life just as Trinis did.
So let me agree with you all….get the illegal Venezuelans out of T&T, and bring back all our illegal Trinis from abroad.
MaxPower wrote:
Remember Trinis, yall did the exact same in the USA. Take a good look at the Caribbean community in Brooklyn/Queens/Liberty Ave/Little Guyana/NY etc and other “Trini areas”.
How many of you Trinis are there because you or your family entered illegally?
matr1x wrote:Max good at making false equivalents
88sins wrote: to answer your question totally honestly, NONE.
Because most (I dare say practically all) Trinis that are in the US illegally today, were actually documented arrivals who simply overstayed their welcome & refused to leave, much unlike the venezuelan situation here, where the state has no clue who is here, or why they are here or how they arrived for most of them.
Additionally, the UN isn't demanding that the US take those Venezuelan refugees, but that same UN feel they can give any random venezuelan a yellow "refugee" status card & tell the people of this country that venezuelans have all rights to be here, when according to the laws of this land, they clearly don't
I do agree tho, get all illegal immigrants out. not just vene, ALL, without regard for race, color, origin, religion, financial or any other status.
but if it were up to me, we wouldn't have this problem.
yuh here illegally, a slow boat back home at your own expense with a 100K fine, & failing to pay said fine nets you 5 yrs jail with hard labor & strokes.
& if yuh plan to eat while in jail yuh famalee back home had better send $$$ to pay for that, otherwise is stale moldy bread & recycled dishwater yuh living on for the duration.
alfa wrote:Max I fail to see how local citizens in the USA weather legal or not it's of any concern to you. American is an sovereign state and can choose what they want to do with their immigrants just like us. If they deem that they are good for the economy and can absorb them into the USA then fine. If they choose to deport every last one then that's their choice as they quite frequently do and we have to accommodate them as these citizens originated from here. Likewise we can choose what to do with our aliens who at this time seem to be harboring pests and a burden on the already struggling economy. USA has nothing to do with this. Deport them I say
MaxPower wrote:alfa wrote:Max I fail to see how local citizens in the USA weather legal or not it's of any concern to you. American is an sovereign state and can choose what they want to do with their immigrants just like us. If they deem that they are good for the economy and can absorb them into the USA then fine. If they choose to deport every last one then that's their choice as they quite frequently do and we have to accommodate them as these citizens originated from here. Likewise we can choose what to do with our aliens who at this time seem to be harboring pests and a burden on the already struggling economy. USA has nothing to do with this. Deport them I say
Hello alfa,
You sure do have a point and i see no reason to challenge your response.
I am in full support of absorbing our beloved Venezuelans into T&T as we have more than enough reason to determine that they are in fact beneficial to our economy.
Gladiator wrote:MaxPower wrote:alfa wrote:Max I fail to see how local citizens in the USA weather legal or not it's of any concern to you. American is an sovereign state and can choose what they want to do with their immigrants just like us. If they deem that they are good for the economy and can absorb them into the USA then fine. If they choose to deport every last one then that's their choice as they quite frequently do and we have to accommodate them as these citizens originated from here. Likewise we can choose what to do with our aliens who at this time seem to be harboring pests and a burden on the already struggling economy. USA has nothing to do with this. Deport them I say
Hello alfa,
You sure do have a point and i see no reason to challenge your response.
I am in full support of absorbing our beloved Venezuelans into T&T as we have more than enough reason to determine that they are in fact beneficial to our economy.
Are you a complete fool... how can adding tens of thousands of consumers to our economy be beneficial? The ONLY way they will benefit Trinidad is if this worthless govt start up some kinda sweat shop business to employ them to manufacture export products.
Until that happens, they will keep working at the service type jobs earning worthless TTD and toting 3 cart in Pricesmart of imported goods that drain our FOREX that they will consume and throw away or sheit out. Complete failure... no wonder you support PNM... idiot
MaxPower wrote:
88,
Whether you are documented or not, once you are ILLEGAL, you are ILLEGAL.
Makes no sense in fighting down who is more illegal than the other.
My point is, Trinis are doing the exact same in the US and other countries. Maybe they should take it down a notch when others do it in their country.
88sins wrote:MaxPower wrote:
88,
Whether you are documented or not, once you are ILLEGAL, you are ILLEGAL.
Makes no sense in fighting down who is more illegal than the other.
My point is, Trinis are doing the exact same in the US and other countries. Maybe they should take it down a notch when others do it in their country.
Yuh mad?
Son, it's not the same thing at all. And this has nothing to do with "who is more illegal than the other"
The difference is simple, yet very poignant.
The American government knows every trini that has ever entered their country, because all Trinis going to the US arrived on a plane at an airport, and have to show that they are allowed to enter the country. If they overstay their visa or the time they are allowed, then they are there illegally, and they should and are dealt with accordingly. The government of that nation has their info, as well as next of kin data, etc. So it's usually a matter of time before they are found and deported, and nobody, not even the UN or the government of this country, pleads their case.
As opposed to the debacle taking place here, where nobody knows what potential murderous rapist theiving narco-trafficking gun-running venezuelan is entering this country on an undocumented vessel at anywhere except a lawful port of entry in the dead of night, or where they go after they run off the beach, and the UN telling them that they have all rights to be here when they don't.
Stop trying to defend the indefensible and justify the unjustifiable Max. It not gonna work until February 36th.
88sins wrote:If they overstay their visa or the time they are allowed, then they are there illegally
MaxPower wrote:88sins wrote:If they overstay their visa or the time they are allowed, then they are there illegally
Exactly my point.
88sins wrote:MaxPower wrote:88sins wrote:If they overstay their visa or the time they are allowed, then they are there illegally
Exactly my point.
I know your point, but you trying hard to dismiss the very critical and key difference betwixt the two situation.
Fact remains, the Vene-Trini illegal immigration problem is VERY different and potentially more dangerous than the Trini-US one, because we have no control over who is coming here, when, why, where they are located and what they are doing, and because of this fact our local authorities ability to dispose of them is going to be somewhat hindered.
Thats max beloved venes.88sins wrote:If the ransom is paid and that man makes it back here I will truly be surprised. I hope he is returned as close as possible to the condition he was taken and suffers no long term severe ill effects, but I suspect that may not be in the cards.
Because let's be realistic and honest about it.
Is a few weeks now he was taken, so we have to assume that unless recent proof of life was provided, he may already be a corpse. Next, whoever delivering that, they better watch themselves, because they don't know who watching them and why. Lastly, his captors got nothing to gain by returning him alive, and doing so is a significant risk.
Hope it ends well.
88sins wrote:And the Venezuelans coming here have no permission to be here, hiding, some working, others running narcotics and illegal weapons and human trafficking, and sending what little forex is in T&T back to venezuela to the detriment of every single Trinbagonian.
Son, when faced with two evils, it's usually better to choose the lesser.
Max,MaxPower wrote:Trinis,
I believe i warned yall to stay away from the Venes.
Say nothing, do nothing and just get productive and carry on with your lives.
Learn to live, or as the old people they will learn yuh.
MaxPower wrote:Trinis,
I believe i warned yall to stay away from the Venes.
Say nothing, do nothing and just get productive and carry on with your lives.
Learn to live, or as the old people they will learn yuh.
MaxPower wrote:88sins wrote:And the Venezuelans coming here have no permission to be here, hiding, some working, others running narcotics and illegal weapons and human trafficking, and sending what little forex is in T&T back to venezuela to the detriment of every single Trinbagonian.
Son, when faced with two evils, it's usually better to choose the lesser.
Yeh bro i agree.
If u check back my posts the main point was for Trinis to take it down a notch as their countrymen are also illegal in other countries.
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