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sMASH wrote:he, he dont wander. he sprays it out as work of a dutiful government mule. the only flinch in composure was when dulchan was overtly telling him 'what bullcrap yuh talkin' . the resolve was to deliver said bull crap at double pressure.
goebbels fleckin young.. the man literally say bonds was like renting ur house.. de man really feel all trini dotish. is more like taking out a mortgage... essentially BORROWING.
any excess in profit generation will have to go towards paying salaries, and repaying the debt it instantly accrued when the bonds are purchased
sMASH wrote:this is NOT the fcb ipo and NOT the ttngl ipo...
sMASH wrote:Bond or bound... Tie up ur money for 20 years to match inflation.
Dividends is questionable. Given the purpose of the bonds is to pay out salaries, and repay debt.
PariaMan wrote:Fellas confusing party politics with a financial opportunity presenting itself and decisions to make concerning if it is going to be personally rewarding
sMASH wrote:the link would be the board of NIF... they who would decide how much dividend goes out.
Redman wrote:Agreed.....so this is where we have to determine how they treat with the holdings dividend flow ....and the 'qualifying' expenses of NIF .
the only people that have a say are the shareholders of NIF-certainly not the bond holders.
Also-paying a dividend is corporate strategy-not a god given right to a shareholder.
so if it is determined that RBL can make better use of its cash.....whats the deal-is NIF now voting with the banks interest-or NIFS interest???
And how does the GORTT as the largest shareholder in RBL exercise that control that comes with ownership of equity.
Redman wrote:Agreed.....so this is where we have to determine how they treat with the holdings dividend flow ....and the 'qualifying' expenses of NIF .
the only people that have a say are the shareholders of NIF-certainly not the bond holders.
Also-paying a dividend is corporate strategy-not a god given right to a shareholder.
so if it is determined that RBL can make better use of its cash.....whats the deal-is NIF now voting with the banks interest-or NIFS interest???
And how does the GORTT as the largest shareholder in RBL exercise that control that comes with ownership of equity.
De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Agreed.....so this is where we have to determine how they treat with the holdings dividend flow ....and the 'qualifying' expenses of NIF .
the only people that have a say are the shareholders of NIF-certainly not the bond holders.
Also-paying a dividend is corporate strategy-not a god given right to a shareholder.
so if it is determined that RBL can make better use of its cash.....whats the deal-is NIF now voting with the banks interest-or NIFS interest???
And how does the GORTT as the largest shareholder in RBL exercise that control that comes with ownership of equity.
Actually, it is an expectation, in some companies that a percentage of any profit, no matter how small, be paid as dividends to shareholders. Value of a company swings even based on a revised dividend announcement that was lower than forecast. It is all about investor confidence, and continued support of the stock.
Redman wrote:Investing for growth is great for ROI....
an investor has 2 basic choices- Pay 100 for a stock that pays 1% interest.
or buy the stock for 100 and hope management takes it to 101.
same ROI.
Also I will throw out that in a time of ultra low IR those who invest in a stock for dividend yield are in the vast minority
If management chooses to buy back 10% of the stock instead of the dividend..(pushes stock price higher) you are saying that investors will lose confidence?
No....there are EXCELLENT reasons not to pay a dividend.
There also MANY variables that can put a company in a position to have to make a choice.
will the NIF lobby to keep the dividend in place?
vs any other option?
sMASH wrote:The decision to pay a dividend is not a set in stone thing. Its up to the board if they want to do it. The motivation to do it is to maintain investor confidence, the motivation not to do it is to keep the profits of the business and let the shareholders make their money selling off their shares.
So unless they have a binding contract stating 'if we make so much and so much profit we will pay out so much and so much dividend' that decision to pay out is up to the discretion of the board
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