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RedVEVO wrote:Listen to 88sins .. He is wise .
There are NO excellent reasons NOT to pay a dividend
88sins wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Listen to 88sins .. He is wise .
There are NO excellent reasons NOT to pay a dividend
that's not what I said at all, but if you think so I ain't here to convince you of otherwise
PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Of sortssMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Not government backed...
PariaMan wrote:Of sortssMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Not government backed...
sMASH wrote:Who own petrotrin? Not the government?
RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Of sortssMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Not government backed...
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Of sortssMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Not government backed...
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
Redman wrote:Nope.
RedVEVO wrote:Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Of sortssMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Not government backed...
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
All the same ..
It's a Gov't Bond ..
You buying any ?
sMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Of sortssMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Just listened to a webinar Bourse gives it a buy rating withour much risk but says people must look at their particular situation to see if they should purchase. Factors are type of investor and the need to access funds before maturity.
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Not government backed...
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
All the same ..
It's a Gov't Bond ..
You buying any ?
its not a government bond. it an NIF bond.
NIF is a shell company created by the GORTT to limit the liability and responsibility away from them. NIF only assets are the shares in republic and angostura and what not, so not even them have any responsibility. any crap that happens, the people can only legally pitch fork NIF.
another CLICO\HCU in the making.
caveat emptor
RedVEVO wrote:sMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Of sortssMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:
It's a BUY.
It's a Gov't backed Bond of sorts and should sell well .
May able to use as collateral with First Citizen .
Win-Win ..
Some illiterate people say it's a loan
First loan that pays you !
Not government backed...
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
All the same ..
It's a Gov't Bond ..
You buying any ?
its not a government bond. it an NIF bond.
NIF is a shell company created by the GORTT to limit the liability and responsibility away from them. NIF only assets are the shares in republic and angostura and what not, so not even them have any responsibility. any crap that happens, the people can only legally pitch fork NIF.
another CLICO\HCU in the making.
caveat emptor
It's a Gov't Bond . Back by Gov't assets .
Republic (RBL) & Angostura are not Gov't Bonds.
Buy plenty ..
Actually no the excess dividend which is estimated at 120 million a year will be placed in a sinking fund to help repay the capital, check the prospectus orsMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:sMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Of sortssMASH wrote:Not government backed...
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
All the same ..
It's a Gov't Bond ..
You buying any ?
its not a government bond. it an NIF bond.
NIF is a shell company created by the GORTT to limit the liability and responsibility away from them. NIF only assets are the shares in republic and angostura and what not, so not even them have any responsibility. any crap that happens, the people can only legally pitch fork NIF.
another CLICO\HCU in the making.
caveat emptor
It's a Gov't Bond . Back by Gov't assets .
Republic (RBL) & Angostura are not Gov't Bonds.
Buy plenty ..
an NIF bond, not a government bond. it isnt backed by assets, its backed by the reissue of bonds to repay the first rounds of maturity provided the assets cant cover the maturity.
PariaMan wrote:Actually no the excess dividend which is estimated at 120 million a year will be placed in a sinking fund to help repay the capital, check the prospectus orsMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:sMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:Of sorts
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
All the same ..
It's a Gov't Bond ..
You buying any ?
its not a government bond. it an NIF bond.
NIF is a shell company created by the GORTT to limit the liability and responsibility away from them. NIF only assets are the shares in republic and angostura and what not, so not even them have any responsibility. any crap that happens, the people can only legally pitch fork NIF.
another CLICO\HCU in the making.
caveat emptor
It's a Gov't Bond . Back by Gov't assets .
Republic (RBL) & Angostura are not Gov't Bonds.
Buy plenty ..
an NIF bond, not a government bond. it isnt backed by assets, its backed by the reissue of bonds to repay the first rounds of maturity provided the assets cant cover the maturity.
The bourse site if you want a synopsis
To summarize, we view the likelihood of refinancing some portion of the NIF bonds as high, in the absence of increased cash flows from dividends and/or sales of assets from the NIF portfolio to generate cash. The probability of default of the NIF bonds, in our view, is low, given the quantum, quality and expected cash flows of the assets in the portfolio of assets.sMASH wrote:PariaMan wrote:Actually no the excess dividend which is estimated at 120 million a year will be placed in a sinking fund to help repay the capital, check the prospectus orsMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:sMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
All the same ..
It's a Gov't Bond ..
You buying any ?
its not a government bond. it an NIF bond.
NIF is a shell company created by the GORTT to limit the liability and responsibility away from them. NIF only assets are the shares in republic and angostura and what not, so not even them have any responsibility. any crap that happens, the people can only legally pitch fork NIF.
another CLICO\HCU in the making.
caveat emptor
It's a Gov't Bond . Back by Gov't assets .
Republic (RBL) & Angostura are not Gov't Bonds.
Buy plenty ..
an NIF bond, not a government bond. it isnt backed by assets, its backed by the reissue of bonds to repay the first rounds of maturity provided the assets cant cover the maturity.
The bourse site if you want a synopsis
and what happens when if it cant repay the capital and interest upon maturity?
sMASH wrote:PariaMan wrote:Actually no the excess dividend which is estimated at 120 million a year will be placed in a sinking fund to help repay the capital, check the prospectus orsMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:sMASH wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Redman wrote:RedVEVO wrote:
Who own Clico ?
Bonds are backed 100% by Gov't.
LOL thats what the EFPA holders thought-its backed by GORTT-it was sold and allowed to be sold as guaranteed by GORTT (by the SOI/CBTT/GORTT) for decades.
Until the garantee was needed.
Like the NIF people thought the GORTT would step up. but they didnt.
there is a BIIIIG difference between US Govt Securities (US Treasuries) and Govt Agency Debt.
There is a difference between backed by a govt....and guaranteed by a govt.
All the same ..
It's a Gov't Bond ..
You buying any ?
its not a government bond. it an NIF bond.
NIF is a shell company created by the GORTT to limit the liability and responsibility away from them. NIF only assets are the shares in republic and angostura and what not, so not even them have any responsibility. any crap that happens, the people can only legally pitch fork NIF.
another CLICO\HCU in the making.
caveat emptor
It's a Gov't Bond . Back by Gov't assets .
Republic (RBL) & Angostura are not Gov't Bonds.
Buy plenty ..
an NIF bond, not a government bond. it isnt backed by assets, its backed by the reissue of bonds to repay the first rounds of maturity provided the assets cant cover the maturity.
The bourse site if you want a synopsis
and what happens when if it cant repay the capital and interest upon maturity?
Well your opinion is that it is not for yousMASH wrote:"refinancing" does that mean guaranteed by GORTT or central bank?
no.
it means that they will issue more bonds to get more money to repay the first bonds. so if u substitute 'bond' with 'loan' it means they would take another 'loan' to repay the first 'loan'
clico was reallll bess, until it wasnt.
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