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MG Man wrote:I should warn you, once you do, you will be forced to live in the oilbird caves, and adopt a corbeau named Bartholomew Haskins III Esq
d spike wrote:triniboy wrote:Does anyone else know about this?
about 10-15 years ago, i read an article in the Trinidad Express where some hikers were hiking through the unfamiliar parts of the Northern range and they stumbled upon some metal debris which turned out to be reminants of a plane crash probably from a plane during ww2.
i never heard about this story ever again and was hoping someone else knows about this.Seeker wrote:I wonder if the wreckage belonged to Mikey Ciprani's plane "the humming bird" that went down in the northern range in 1940.
No Seeker, the crash triniboy is talking about was a torpedo bomber Avenger.
Triniboy, the guns from that crashed plane were collected and are displayed in the Aviation Museum in Chagauramas.
Six (I believe) Grumman TBF Avengers were stationed at the airfield at Galera in Toco, as part of the anti-submarine war in "Torpedo Alley", as the area off our North Coast was called. This area was the most notorious stretch of water where German U-boats were concerned in WWII - even though if you 'google' "Torpedo Alley", you will get an area off America... (sigh, the things folks prefer to remember)
The Toco airfield was supposedly the only airfield in the world with a sharp curve at the end - as your undercarriage lifted off the ground at take-off, you needed to pull sharply to one side to avoid the light-house!
Canadian Sharks
The RCAF purchased seven Blackburn Shark II (760 hp/570 kW Tiger VI) in 1936 for service with No 6 (TB) Squadron, later operating as No 6 (BR) Sqn on shipping patrols off the Canadian west coast. Two Blackburn Shark IIIs (800 hp/600 kW Pegasus III) were supplied to RCAF by Blackburn in 1939 as forerunners of 17 similar aircraft built by Boeing Aircraft of Canada at Vancouver, with 840 hp (630 kW) Pegasus IX and used by Nos 6 and 4 (BR) Squadrons. RCAF Blackburn Sharks, some of which operated as floatplanes, were withdrawn from service in August 1944 and five were then transferred to the RN Air Observers' School in Trinidad.
cinco wrote:MG Man wrote:I should warn you, once you do, you will be forced to live in the oilbird caves, and adopt a corbeau named Bartholomew Haskins III Esq
so THATS your real name!!!
MG Man wrote:dude...........I should let you know, d spike is 347 years old and was reading since he was 3 months old
Seeker wrote:I also read somewhere that Waller Field was an airfied...the same runway was used as the dragstrip. The Feed mill at Carlsen Field was the site of another WWII airfield and German POWS was sometimes moved here to transfer to America. The Golden Grove Prison was an Army barracks and jungle training was done here to prepare the allies for battle against the japanese in the south pacific (Fort Read I think, was the name).
cinco wrote:i was googling this
and saw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_SharkCanadian Sharks
The RCAF purchased seven Blackburn Shark II (760 hp/570 kW Tiger VI) in 1936 for service with No 6 (TB) Squadron, later operating as No 6 (BR) Sqn on shipping patrols off the Canadian west coast. Two Blackburn Shark IIIs (800 hp/600 kW Pegasus III) were supplied to RCAF by Blackburn in 1939 as forerunners of 17 similar aircraft built by Boeing Aircraft of Canada at Vancouver, with 840 hp (630 kW) Pegasus IX and used by Nos 6 and 4 (BR) Squadrons. RCAF Blackburn Sharks, some of which operated as floatplanes, were withdrawn from service in August 1944 and five were then transferred to the RN Air Observers' School in Trinidad.
cinco wrote:good then i shall kill him and eat his brains
cinco wrote:d spike can you share a list of books you read?
at least give me a book to start reading please
cinco wrote:books sir
where have your read these things?
d spike wrote:No Seeker, the crash triniboy is talking about was a torpedo bomber Avenger.
Triniboy, the guns from that crashed plane were collected and are displayed in the Aviation Museum in Chagauramas.
Six (I believe) Grumman TBF Avengers were stationed at the airfield at Galera in Toco, as part of the anti-submarine war in "Torpedo Alley", as the area off our North Coast was called. This area was the most notorious stretch of water where German U-boats were concerned in WWII - even though if you 'google' "Torpedo Alley", you will get an area off America... (sigh, the things folks prefer to remember)
The Toco airfield was supposedly the only airfield in the world with a sharp curve at the end - as your undercarriage lifted off the ground at take-off, you needed to pull sharply to one side to avoid the light-house!
MG Man wrote:cinco wrote:books sir
where have your read these things?
u eh go learn eh
if u look at all those WW2 photos, you'll see d spike selling sno cone, coconuts and 'Jeans' and 'Dinahs' in the background
He used to live in a hut in the swamp in Manzan untill those troops began using his outhouse for target practice
Furhter back still, he was the clown who was recording names of people coming off the Fatel Rozak and adding 'watee' to the end of peoples names
And guess who was the clown who broke the statue up on the hill overlooking Claxton Bay turnoff..........he, de statue, and de gyul e was pressin up against it all roll down de hill, cutting a sharp curve in the valley, where that dotish bend in the highway now follows.....
d spike wrote:Wallerfield was named after the American captain of a stricken aircraft that was tracking a German submarine. It was hit and going down, but the captain chose to stay behind and hold the plane steady while the crewmen jumped clear of the plane safely. There wasn't time for him to jump before it crashed.
MG Man wrote:didn't realize the carlsen field airfield was larger than the wallerfield complex!
Airfield congestion at Waller became so acute that the combat aircraft, the bombers actually confronting the U-Boats had to be moved out to Edinburgh (Carlsen) Airfield when it was completed.
Hyarima was said to be born around the beginning of the 17th century and was probably Nepuyo, which was a tribe of Araucan. He grew up in one of the northern encomiendas, but it was not clear if this was Tacarigus or Arauca. Around 1625, he escaped from the slavery and harsh conditions of the encomienda into the northeastern area of the Island which was outside Spanish control.
Hyarima's military prowess, and relentless determination to rid his country of Spanish colonists made him the obvious choice for warchief or cacique. He was an able leader and a great warrior, and he soon formed military alliances with Amerindian groups in the neighboring islands as well as with Dutch traders in Tobago.
In 1636 and 1637, he joined with Dutch forces based in Tobago to raid Spanish outposts in Trinidad and along the Orinoci.
On October 14th 1637 the most devastating attack was carried out against St. Joseph the main Spanish settlement on the island. During the attack, the Church and town buildings were looted and burned to the ground, with significant loss of life. The destruction of the town forced the survivors to withdraw temporarily to the main land.
Hyarima was both feared and respected by the Dutch and Spanish forces, who referred to him as ‘the great Chieftain of the Nepuyo people’, and his military activities in the North East of the island was one reason why the Spanish authorities were never able to effectively establish control of this area. It is often thought that Arima was named after Hyarima, but it is more likely that he took his name from Arima when elected Chieftain, as it was Araucan custom to name their Chiefs and Caciques after the villages and settlements.
Hyarima the folk hero has many attributes of the man- a great warrior and chieftan who devoted his life to preserving the way of life of his people and to expelling the Spanish invaders from their ancestral lands. His fierce and profound hatred and distress of the Spanish extended to the Church and its missionaries and he resisted their entry into his lands.
d spike wrote:cinco wrote:d spike can you share a list of books you read?
at least give me a book to start reading please
"A History of Aviation in Trinidad" by Gaylord Kelshall (sumting so, me t'inks);
"Spanish Trinidad" (good luck finding a copy o' that one);
(can't remember the name of this one but...) its the Journal of a French priest who worked here in the late 1800's.
triniboy wrote:Does anyone else know about this?
about 10-15 years ago, i read an article in the Trinidad Express where some hikers were hiking through the unfamiliar parts of the Northern range and they stumbled upon some metal debris which turned out to be reminants of a plane crash probably from a plane during ww2.
i never heard about this story ever again and was hoping someone else knows about this.
d spike wrote:d spike wrote:cinco wrote:d spike can you share a list of books you read?
at least give me a book to start reading please
"A History of Aviation in Trinidad" by Gaylord Kelshall (sumting so, me t'inks);
"Spanish Trinidad" (good luck finding a copy o' that one);
(can't remember the name of this one but...) its the Journal of a French priest who worked here in the late 1800's.
This book is "Stories of Trinidad and St. Vincent in the Antilles", taken from the journal of Bertrand Cothonay O.P., 1882-1888. (2008) ISBN 978-976-8211-89-7
equipped2ripp wrote:I also remembered reading an article in the Express or Guardian about someone digging up an old coin or artifact at a beach... can't remember what exactly it was. I probably was about 7-10 years old at the time when I read the article. Does any one know of this?
This was about 15-18 years ago if I could remember right.
d spike wrote:Apparently there is a lot of misinformation on the internet about Hyarima and his involvement in the Arena debacle, due to well-meaning, fervent and imaginative folks who, in true bluefeteian style, claim he was a Carib, and that he planned the Arena massacre.
There is a statue in Arima commemorating Hyarima, an Amerindian cacique and the Amerindian people of Trinidad and Tobago. Below is an inscription about the Carib warrior leader:The last great leader of this nation's indigenous people was Hyarima. He was a Nepuypo - a sub-tribe of the Carinepogoto (Carib) whose villages were established throughout northeast Trinidad.
He was involved in the last successful revolt by this island's indigenous people. This took place in December 1699 against the Capuchin Missionaries of San Francisco de los Arenales and the then Governor Don Jose de Leon y Echales in Arena.
In 1699, the Spanish colonial government in Trinidad quelled an Amerindian uprising in Arena, captured the rebels and tried them for their crimes, which included the murders of the governor of the island, several priests and their slaves. The captives were tortured until they confessed their part in what came to be known as the Arena Massacre, and 22 adult men of the lot were hanged in the public square of the capital. The bodies were then decapitated, dismembered and strewn on the roadside to serve as an example to any other rebels who harboured thoughts of standing up to the Catholic Church in the colony. The women and children who were implicated in the event were given as "body servants" to Spanish inhabitants of the colony.