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Started with bucket of beer.pugboy wrote:started with curry fruits
Daz wah we talking about88sins wrote:Now see a red hawk on the road eating one this evening. Level slam on d road to mash up the shell, and swallow it in one shot
If they cooking to sell den dem eh hadda clean it good. Dey jus hadda cook it long enuff and put enuff seasoning lolpugboy wrote:i feel the guts of them thing loaded with bacteria
they way they rot and stink immediately just like a rat
slugs on the other hand decompose and dry up very cleanly
so whoever cooking them need to clean them good
"lordddd" faddahhhhnervewrecker wrote:Caimet, proper name star apple I think.pugboy wrote:what is caimate ?
caiman is commonly eaten, not sure what is caimate
Soft smooth skin, size of an orange. Some are purple when ripe, some are green. Has a fleshy to jellylike insides that's clear to white with a few black seeds like sapodilla. Stains up your skin real bad, recommend rubbing some coconut oil around your mouth prior to eating.
It's amazing of how much how many don't know. A guy bought some "monkey apple" for us about a week or two ago. One guy come asking me what it is, if I get one, if is a joke or something.
Had a coworker didn't know what mamesepote was either. Someone bought one for us. Goes without saying I lick down the whole thing while my city slicker feel we pranking him. Idiot knew about dongs, went and eat mancheneel (sp). Nearly kill he ass
Thats the difficult part.The longer you cook snail,the stiffer it gets.Them ting does flash fry in garlic butter.Unless you like the texture of cooked gizzard,then power to you.I don't like gizzardPhone Surgeon wrote:If they cooking to sell den dem eh hadda clean it good. Dey jus hadda cook it long enuff and put enuff seasoning lolpugboy wrote:i feel the guts of them thing loaded with bacteria
they way they rot and stink immediately just like a rat
slugs on the other hand decompose and dry up very cleanly
so whoever cooking them need to clean them good
I say was just me.pugboy wrote:i had some river conch the other day and it was exactly like gizzard
sea conch gets rubbery but not like gizzard
Phone Surgeon wrote:Sound like allyuh had some African snail
Ministry may bring back Thiodicarb in African snail fight
The Agriculture Ministry has been reviewing a pesticide containing Thiodicarb to deal with the Giant African snail, as the pesticide has shown increased success in other parts of the world, but alternative plans are also being developed for implementation within the coming weeks.
This was the word from Minister in the Ministry of Agriculture, Land and Fisheries Avinash Singh during Friday’s sitting of Parliament.
Singh said that in 2020, the Pesticide and Toxic Chemical Control Board advised that the active ingredient Thiodicarb in liquid formulation was not registered for use to control snails and should be removed as a recommendation by the ministry.
“However, the ministry’s Research Division has been reviewing this pesticide, as its effectiveness in treating with adult and juvenile snails, as well as the eggs, has shown increased success in other areas across the world... we’re currently reviewing the success at our local Research Division. This is one of the most effective baits in the control of the Giant African snail,” Singh said.
“Accordingly, a request has been made to the board to review bait with the active ingredient Thiodicarb. The intent is to utilize bait with this active ingredient to control the snail population. We’ve written the board to have that incorporated in the ministry’s programme of dealing with the Giant African snails and are currently awaiting a response. As soon as we get clearance from the board, this bait will be incorporated in our programme.”
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/ministry-may-bring-back-thiodicarb-in-african-snail-fight-6.2.1544240.1a6d154c7a
maj. tom wrote:well I have been spraying it with much success compared to previous efforts with the bait. Did the entire perimeter about a month ago. Haven't seen any big snails in weeks. The poison killing their eggs and stopping the cycle, saw a few baby snails last week but they disappeared soon after, I think the spray still has a residual effect. If i see any more big ones i'll spray again.
But the warning about Thiodicarb toxicity is serious. Only to be used as a last resort in a well controlled manner and area because it's deadly to everything in the environment from insects to fish to mammals.
maj. tom wrote:I spray normal all the bush, by the water tanks, cane patch, fig patch, anywhere with moisture.
But last time I also went around the entire place from the outside fence to create the border.
So no new ones coming in for now until it wears out, but it also finally became effective enough so that that current ones inside would have died and stopped the eggs from either being laid or hatching. What I have noticed is that when it's mixed really diluted, they don't die instantly, but continue slugging along and eating along like normal. But a day later they're dead. And there's always a white residue when the solution dries up that forms the physical border even at low concentration mix. You know once the snail crosses it, the poison got in them and will affect them. This won't last too long, I think in a few weeks again I might start seeing large ones again and have to spray again.
Basically why slug bait (Metaldehyde) is ineffective is because the mechanism of action is death of molluscs by dehydration. This means that any live eggs inside them are still safe in their shell capsules. Thiodicarb on the other hand, every molecule of it inhibits acetylcholinesterase activity which is a neurotransmitter. It's analogous to Sarin nerve gas which is why it's so deadly to everything else. So the snail dies at the cellular level and the eggs are definitely killed even if they remain inside the snail upon death.
I think the method with the banana+beer+ tiovin seems best as you can choose a spot to concentrate their arrival and make clean up a lil easierj.o.e wrote:maj. tom wrote:I spray normal all the bush, by the water tanks, cane patch, fig patch, anywhere with moisture.
But last time I also went around the entire place from the outside fence to create the border.
So no new ones coming in for now until it wears out, but it also finally became effective enough so that that current ones inside would have died and stopped the eggs from either being laid or hatching. What I have noticed is that when it's mixed really diluted, they don't die instantly, but continue slugging along and eating along like normal. But a day later they're dead. And there's always a white residue when the solution dries up that forms the physical border even at low concentration mix. You know once the snail crosses it, the poison got in them and will affect them. This won't last too long, I think in a few weeks again I might start seeing large ones again and have to spray again.
Basically why slug bait (Metaldehyde) is ineffective is because the mechanism of action is death of molluscs by dehydration. This means that any live eggs inside them are still safe in their shell capsules. Thiodicarb on the other hand, every molecule of it inhibits acetylcholinesterase activity which is a neurotransmitter. It's analogous to Sarin nerve gas which is why it's so deadly to everything else. So the snail dies at the cellular level and the eggs are definitely killed even if they remain inside the snail upon death.
Interesting. Will look into this. Heavy toxicity a little concerning. But can’t stand them snails
So basically, the thiovin is the best optionPhone Surgeon wrote:I've seen persons post in the local agri groups that 4% Metaldehyde kills the snail slowly and so also kills their eggs. The 6% they realize they're dying and release their eggs
pugboy wrote:i had some river conch the other day and it was exactly like gizzard
sea conch gets rubbery but not like gizzard
*KRONIK* wrote:Nah man
It rel black conch up ortoire side
Saw at least 5 vendors last week
*KRONIK* wrote:I think the method with the banana+beer+ tiovin seems best as you can choose a spot to concentrate their arrival and make clean up a lil easierj.o.e wrote:maj. tom wrote:I spray normal all the bush, by the water tanks, cane patch, fig patch, anywhere with moisture.
But last time I also went around the entire place from the outside fence to create the border.
So no new ones coming in for now until it wears out, but it also finally became effective enough so that that current ones inside would have died and stopped the eggs from either being laid or hatching. What I have noticed is that when it's mixed really diluted, they don't die instantly, but continue slugging along and eating along like normal. But a day later they're dead. And there's always a white residue when the solution dries up that forms the physical border even at low concentration mix. You know once the snail crosses it, the poison got in them and will affect them. This won't last too long, I think in a few weeks again I might start seeing large ones again and have to spray again.
Basically why slug bait (Metaldehyde) is ineffective is because the mechanism of action is death of molluscs by dehydration. This means that any live eggs inside them are still safe in their shell capsules. Thiodicarb on the other hand, every molecule of it inhibits acetylcholinesterase activity which is a neurotransmitter. It's analogous to Sarin nerve gas which is why it's so deadly to everything else. So the snail dies at the cellular level and the eggs are definitely killed even if they remain inside the snail upon death.
Interesting. Will look into this. Heavy toxicity a little concerning. But can’t stand them snails