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Postby maj. tom » October 27th, 2020, 7:43 pm

If you didn't know, 3 Porsche Cayennes cost less than 1 Toyota. Especially if you buy all 3 within 5 years.

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Postby Gladiator » October 27th, 2020, 8:38 pm

elec2020 wrote:How u mean. DSS trumps shootings, robbery, murder, rape, etc. To be fair all crime should be investigated equally. But idk why DSS getting so much attention when so much pyramid schemes and sou sou schemes already exist in TnT. I waiting to see Organo Gold/Amway to get raided.


Its apparently not a Pyramid scheme if its tied to a product...

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Postby elec2020 » October 27th, 2020, 8:41 pm

^ i not seeing that here (viewtopic.php?t=237573). The lowest model cayenne according to this site is for $1,075,000.00 and the highest totyota (Prado) going for $1,070,000.00. If you talking foreign used then idk. I never really delved into the foreign used market

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Postby elec2020 » October 27th, 2020, 8:43 pm

Gladiator wrote:
elec2020 wrote:How u mean. DSS trumps shootings, robbery, murder, rape, etc. To be fair all crime should be investigated equally. But idk why DSS getting so much attention when so much pyramid schemes and sou sou schemes already exist in TnT. I waiting to see Organo Gold/Amway to get raided.


Its apparently not a Pyramid scheme if its tied to a product...


Thats the cover. But i think in developed countries those organizations have been flagged by various consumer affairs, financial regulators as being pyramid schemes.

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Postby maj. tom » October 27th, 2020, 8:48 pm

elec2020 wrote:^ i not seeing that here (http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/vie ... p?t=237573). The lowest model cayenne according to this site is for $1,075,000.00 and the highest totyota (Prado) going for $1,070,000.00. If you talking foreign used then idk. I never really delved into the foreign used market


You sure? Check your numbers again, because you're not as smart as Mr. Value-for-Money Rentboy. 3 Porsches are less than the cost of a Toyota, so what's your point? Remember, people weren't given any other choice at the polls, so they had to choose this option again with a landslide.
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The scheme is that they buy these high end vehicles tax free, and then resell them after 2 years at a greater value that they initially paid because of the tax breaks. $$$Profit.

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Postby elec2020 » October 27th, 2020, 8:57 pm

^ LOL. Well sheit. Idk where he get that from. Unless trinituner figures wrong. Hopefully next GE we get better opposition candidates (I don't wanna highlight reasons why I say we need better candidates as that often spirals into a negative discussion with no end result, i just think that if the opposition was what people wanted they would have won but the results speak for themselves). I really hope TnT has a Barbados moment and finally says enough is enough. But who knows if that will ever happen

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Postby Gladiator » October 27th, 2020, 9:20 pm

elec2020 wrote:
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elec2020 wrote:How u mean. DSS trumps shootings, robbery, murder, rape, etc. To be fair all crime should be investigated equally. But idk why DSS getting so much attention when so much pyramid schemes and sou sou schemes already exist in TnT. I waiting to see Organo Gold/Amway to get raided.


Its apparently not a Pyramid scheme if its tied to a product...


Thats the cover. But i think in developed countries those organizations have been flagged by various consumer affairs, financial regulators as being pyramid schemes.


Amway was recognized by the United States Federal Trade Commission as a legitimate direct selling business whose distributors sell quality products to consumers, and where no one earns income unless products are sold.

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Postby elec2020 » October 27th, 2020, 9:48 pm

"Officials said Amway had violated the "Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act of 1979," which outlaws pyramid schemes". That excerpt was from an Indian article. Some places treat them as pyramid schemes others don't.
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Postby Redman » October 28th, 2020, 7:37 am

Check out how Sahara’s Subrata Roy made his money.

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Postby elec2020 » October 28th, 2020, 1:08 pm

When you so like to hear the sound of your own voice and proving people wrong that you ignore the consequences and breach key aspects of whistleblowing. Not too long till the owner of DSS becomes a statistic now.

https://guardian.co.tt/news/griffith-ds ... 5bcf46e714

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Postby eliteauto » October 28th, 2020, 1:44 pm

Gary eh taking no light up jusso. Mr. DSS wanna post phonecall and go to the media, so GG ID the guy as a snitch oui

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Postby pugboy » October 28th, 2020, 1:49 pm

meanwhile the clico boys who scammed many of billions living it up nice

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Postby maj. tom » October 28th, 2020, 1:57 pm

wait, is camouflage he wearing there? How Gary allowing that?
Anyway, he was a good boy.

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Postby pugboy » October 28th, 2020, 2:27 pm

he is a soldier so allowed

maj. tom wrote:wait, is camouflage he wearing there? How Gary allowing that?
Anyway, he was a good boy.

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Postby K74T » October 28th, 2020, 2:35 pm

eliteauto wrote:Gary eh taking no light up jusso. Mr. DSS wanna post phonecall and go to the media, so GG ID the guy as a snitch oui
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Postby alfa » October 28th, 2020, 2:37 pm

pugboy wrote:meanwhile the clico boys who scammed many of billions living it up nice

Don't forget the harrynarine boy from the hcu who scammed many a injun and still living nice. Ent organo gold was a ponzi scheme to? Cops weren't interested in those?

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Postby pugboy » October 28th, 2020, 2:47 pm

harry used to work for duprey at one point in time

is the banking cartel trying to fight down the black man according to the fella they interview on tv6 last night

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Postby Rovin » October 30th, 2020, 7:38 pm

so u insulting gary but d man shouldn't reply ent

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=102 ... 9771243998

if d man did reply like a typical trini & say something like "why u doh HYMC, if u feel u cud do a better job then come do it" then ppl wda been outraged ....

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Postby maj. tom » October 30th, 2020, 7:43 pm

No he shouldn't reply to things like that because he is a public Government figure. Facebook comments that other people write are completely irrelevant to the job he was paid to do. He can do his job and issue a press release to address any issues and complaints to the public that they are concerned about.

But he obviously using the same playbook from retard clown Trump. And what he says and the tone he uses also shows what a petty, degraded attitude he has, like Trump. Remember the Pennywise remark?

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Postby pugboy » October 30th, 2020, 10:03 pm

and the rattans

maj. tom wrote:No he shouldn't reply to things like that because he is a public Government figure. Facebook comments that other people write are completely irrelevant to the job he was paid to do. He can do his job and issue a press release to address any issues and complaints to the public that they are concerned about.

But he obviously using the same playbook from retard clown Trump. And what he says and the tone he uses also shows what a petty, degraded attitude he has, like Trump. Remember the Pennywise remark?

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Postby Rovin » November 1st, 2020, 2:24 pm

police sharing kfc vouchers , kfc gt with a lil end dey too .... well alright then :|

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Postby elec2020 » November 5th, 2020, 7:04 pm

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... oser=false

Mods take down this thread before some of us get sued to pls. Freedom of speech is dead in tnt

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Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2020, 7:51 pm

what are the alleged defamatory statements about ?

elec2020 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158592143815610&id=377693645609&anchor_composer=false

Mods take down this thread before some of us get sued to pls. Freedom of speech is dead in tnt

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Postby elec2020 » November 5th, 2020, 8:17 pm

Idk i did some research and nothing came up on the source of the derogatory statements as well as the individual. However i have seen on social media that the COP filed a pre action protocol against the express. So maybe its someone who works in the express that made a comment on him on social media.... idk nah i find that this is intimidation and a violation of free speech with regards to being able to criticise those in a public office. But covid have men brokes so me n sayin nutin

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Postby De Dragon » November 6th, 2020, 1:09 pm

elec2020 wrote:Idk i did some research and nothing came up on the source of the derogatory statements as well as the individual. However i have seen on social media that the COP filed a pre action protocol against the express. So maybe its someone who works in the express that made a comment on him on social media.... idk nah i find that this is intimidation and a violation of free speech with regards to being able to criticise those in a public office. But covid have men brokes so me n sayin nutin

Pantyman Geeyore says Denyse Renne from the Express defamed him. What a petulant, thin skinned little boy we have the misfortune to have as CoP. Every single thing this woman feels the need to respond to with great fanfare and self promotion.

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Postby elec2020 » November 6th, 2020, 2:55 pm

^ :lol: :lol: :lol:

Imo its time for him to go. He is clearly not the answer to the crime situation in T&T.

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Postby pugboy » November 6th, 2020, 3:02 pm

tbh he is a mirror image of trump
just like how trump always responding to crap on twitter he does the same

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Postby Rovin » November 8th, 2020, 12:14 pm

a long read if u got d time ..... :|


https://newsday.co.tt/2020/11/08/police ... L8QzHyJE4I

Police corruption deepens, 35 years after Scott Drug Report


Trinidad and Tobago was assailed by the damning evidence of police involvement in drug trafficking, US counterfeit rings, murder, prostitution and a host of serious crimes, almost 35 years ago.

Back then, the man who sat in the commissioner's chair, the Kojack-styled Randolph Burroughs, was identified as the mastermind behind a criminal enterprise which unleashed the scourge of cocaine from Colombian cartels on the streets and safe trafficking routes for marijuana growers.

Witnesses, including police who testified in secret before the commission of enquiry established in April 1984, claimed Burroughs, together with a band of untouchables, aptly named the Flying Squad, were linked to drug barons Dole Chadee, Naim Naya Ali, Chaitran Gayah, Adella Moses, Teddy "Mice" Khan, Hosein "Betalal" Alladin and other violent drug traffickers, as well as corrupt judicial officers.

They were protected by the CoP and rivals were silenced as cocaine crept its way through the corridor of power and even the nostrils of government ministers.

All of them are now dead, some were murdered, executed by the State, and missing at sea but the stains of corruption in the police service remained and seems to have infiltrated the ranks of the defence force.

While Burroughs demitted office in disgrace after being charged with conspiracy to murder, most of the officers who were identified in the Scott Drug Report served out their time and some were promoted to executive ranks.

In its conclusion, the report stated, "The evidence has disclosed that is it common knowledge that corruption and indiscipline are widespread within the organisation resulting in its very poor public image. It cannot be overstated that leadership without integrity must result in futility."

While there have been significant advances in training, technology and selection of candidates over the last three-and-a-half decades, officers who threaten to destroy the image of the organisation have grown wiser to conceal their misdeeds.

PM defers questions on police corruption

Today, a network of corrupt officers span from executive officers of the police service and defence force with a new weapon which the Prime Minister has described as a "cancer which if left unchecked can eat the soul of the nation."

Dr Rowley, as head of the National Security Council, is briefed regularly on threats or potential threats in the country.

Speaking on Saturday at a media briefing to give an update on new measures in place to prevent the spread of covid19, he responded to questions about the matters which were unearthed in the Scott Drug Report, which still exist or have become worse, and whether he was confident that under the current leadership of the police service, rogue elements can be removed and prosecuted.

A soldier on a joint police/army exercise in Port of Spain. Members of the defence force are now being red-flagged as part of corruption in the protective services. File photo. -

"That's a question for another time. I don't really want to get into that today. The Scott Drug Report is not really in front of us. What is in front of us is the current state of affairs of our police service that is committed to protecting and serving. What we try to ensure (is) that it sticks to that purpose."

Days after the September 21 bust in La Horquetta where $22 million in cash was seized, and subsequently returned, the Prime Minister summoned an urgent meeting of the national security advisers.

There, he was briefed on the scale of corrupt elements in the police and defence force involved in operation.

To date, police are unaware where the $22 million is concealed and there has been a wall of silence from Chief of Defence Staff Air Commodore Daryl Daniel even though leaked intelligence reports identified senior officers under his command as key architects in the scheme.

The operation has been described by top security advisers as a "national security crisis" – millions of dollars from criminal gangs earned through drug trafficking, illegal quarries, prostitution, gun deals, human trafficking, fraud have been invested in a pyramid scheme promising to churn out returns, such as $28,000 for a $3,500 investment in just three weeks.

Police investigating the Drugs Sou-Sou (DSS) have confirmed that money from illegal sources has been mixed with investments from desperate people, many of whom have been laid off during the first nine months of the covid19 pandemic.

Even in the face of an announcement that foreign investigators of Barbados and the United Kingdom have been called in to help local investigators, the operators of DSS expanded its operation in Tobago but was forced to eventually close up shop when police raided and seized numerous records and another $6.4 million in cash in late October.

Police Commissioner Gary Griffith, who has taken the lead on the investigation, has cited Trojan horses in the service working to undermine and frustrate the probe.

He has suspended four of the officers who were directly linked to returning the money and transferred 11 others, and appointed the foreign officers as special reserve police to aid a select team from the Professional Standards Bureau, Financial Investigations Bureau, and other elite arms of the service to root out the corrupt cops.

Intelligence reports and wire taps have linked senior officers to the scheme and the source of funds to criminal gangs.

Griffith, since coming into office in August 2018, has pledged to clean up the police service but the network of the pyramid scheme seems to be his toughest fight yet.

Numerous recommendations for reform, few implemented

Since its inception, the police service has been the subject of numerous reviews including the Lee Committee in 1958; the Darby Commission in 1964, the Carr Committee in 1971; the Bruce Committee in 1978; the US-sponsored Police Executive Research Forum in 1990 and the O'Dowd Committee in 1990.

A perusal of these reports show that significant recommendations were made to reform the police service, at great cost to taxpayers, but the majority of recommendations were ignored.

"It is worth emphasising that the change process is always difficult, it requires good management, a high level of commitment, ownership, planned implementation within agreed time-scales, adequate financial provision in critical areas, training and built in evaluation programmes. With a few minor exceptions, there seems to have been a failure to address these issues, together with a lack of sufficient financial resources in support of the police service over a long period of time," the O'Dowd committee observed in its report.

On the vexing issue of corruption, the O'Dowd committee referred to the findings of the Scott Drug Report.

"Corruption within police forces is not a new phenomenon and in some forces extraordinary measures have been adopted to combat the problem," the committee noted.

Later in the report, the committee suggested: "Supervisors should be particularly suspicious of subordinates who are apparently living beyond their means. Where officers are serving in departments where their duties make them extremely vulnerable, for example, vice of drugs, then clear policy guidelines and procedure must exist and supervision be maintained at a high level."

It added that the cooperation of the public is a vital factor in dealing with corruption and people should be encouraged to make reports against errant officers and be afforded the confidentiality in doing so.

"Safeguards should be in-built to avoid frivolous and vindictive complaints against honest police officers and false and malicious allegations should be made subject of criminal proceedings," the committee suggested to avoid abuse of the process.

But it noted that the "ultimate in dealing with offences of corruption should be criminal proceedings wherever possible. In circumstances where criminal charges cannot be brought but wrongdoing can be shown use should be made of the disciplinary code with exemplary punishments being used as a deterrent."

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Postby elec2020 » November 8th, 2020, 12:27 pm

^ this is nothing new. Nothing we don't already know about the TTPS. Also this statement "the cooperation of the public is a vital factor in dealing with corruption and people should be encouraged to make reports against errant officers and be afforded the confidentiality in doing so." Is madness cause u will always end up as a statistic (that is a victim of physical violence or murdered). No thanks. My response shall always be "BOSS I AIN'T SEE NUTHIN." Nothing can save us from the corrupt gang that is the TTPS. Nothing is going to change. Not in our lifetimes. Not in our children's lifetimes. Not in our children's children's lifetimes. Etc

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Postby elec2020 » November 8th, 2020, 9:30 pm

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/w ... 6cf42.html

"A MAN was shot and killed in Longdenville on Saturday night.

A police officer told his colleagues he shot at two men after he was ambushed and robbed of money he had to purchase a boat engine.

The officer who is on injury leave reported to the police that he went to a gravel road with his wife around 8.30 p.m. to purchase the engine. On arrival they met two men, one of whom placed a gun to his neck and announced a hold up.

The officer said he was then made to drive further into the road with the gun man in the backseat and the other man in the van tray. After being told to alight the vehicle the officer said he was slapped and asked for the money. Hs wife handed over $15,000.

It was reported to officers that the gunman placed the firearm in the police officer’s mouth. He pushed it away and fired five shots in the direction of his assailants. He made his way to the Longdenville police post.

When officers went to the scene they found the body of a man in a black three quarter pants, grey jersey and pink mask, lying face down next to a gun loaded with six rounds of ammunition. He had wounds to his chest and back."

You had a gun in your mouth and turn the tables and end up killing one of the other gunmen while you were recuperating from an injury..... WHAT!?

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