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Postby hover11 » December 8th, 2021, 9:04 pm

UNITED STATES STOPS FUNDING FOR SORT AFTER JOEL BELCON REVEALED TO BE AMERICAN CITIZEN

A post which is believed to have originated from the US Embassy in TT has announced that the Special Operations Response Team (SORT) has been disqualified from receiving US Security Assistance as a result of alleged human rights violations.

The post which was circulated on social media on Tuesday is purported to have been made since March of this year.

Members of SORT were implicated in the torture and beating of kidnapping suspects Andrew Morris and Joel Belcon, according to a report completed by the Police Complaints Authority.

Both men later died in police custody.
They were named as prime suspects in the kidnapping and murder of Andrea Bharatt.
In the statement, the Embassy said, "The Trinidad and Tobago Police Service's Special Operations Response Team is hereby ineligible gor US security assistance due to credible allegations that this unit is implicated in acts that constitute gross violations of human rights (GVHR).

"The decision is made in accordance with the United States' Leahy Law which stipulates that US security assistance cannot be provided to foreign security forces that are credibly implicated in GBHR."

Former team leader of SORT Mark Hernandez was charged in April for misbehaviour in public office.

The TTPS also asked the FBI for help to incriminate SORT members, click link to read:
https://www.facebook.com/10863560131849 ... 9/?app=fbl

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Postby hover11 » December 8th, 2021, 9:04 pm

Where is civilian Gary why is he so quiet?

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Postby pugboy » December 8th, 2021, 9:08 pm

nah he issued a rant complaining about how hindsight used a ttps press conference to talk election lorse nonsense
he was very correct about that

election ole talk is for in the streets, not during ttps work time

hover11 wrote:Where is civilian Gary why is he so quiet?

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Postby MaxPower » December 8th, 2021, 9:19 pm

The SORT officers involved will forever be heroes. Think i will start investing some money in the MH range as an appreciation and support for their heroic acts.

Those two nasty smelly stinking rapists deserved every bit of it and should have been tortured more.

Do not rape.

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Postby pugboy » December 10th, 2021, 8:00 am

gg didn’t make any media appearance this week?
what happening?

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Postby MaxPower » December 10th, 2021, 3:04 pm

pugboy wrote:gg didn’t make any media appearance this week?
what happening?


Appearance for?

GG gone tru from the time he had to resort to stooping so low to appear on Inshan sheit show.

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Postby widdyphuck » December 10th, 2021, 3:07 pm

MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:gg didn’t make any media appearance this week?
what happening?


Appearance for?

GG gone tru from the time he had to resort to stooping so low to appear on Inshan sheit show.
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Postby De Dragon » December 12th, 2021, 9:17 am

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bluefete wrote:RollingStock: How do you feel when you do all the hard work, get the evidence, make an arrest and a lawyer gets the perp off in court, to go back on the street and do the same thing again?


rollingstock wrote:So leave them to just kill persons? Why a judicial system then?

Hope your family members don't travel in a car with a suspect and they decide to light it up and call him a murderer/rapist and you just have to take it as is with no recourse.

When a police service resorts to extra judicial killings it only proves to me that the powers to be clueless and have no idea how to deal with crime.


You feel dejected, after a few times you start to question whether it makes sense even working.

I've reach the point where I try not to care about the outcome.


Half of alluh in here really clueless yes. Men in here blaming the police but ignoring the parliamentarians who skylark and play games in Parliament?

Keep that same energy next time UNC abstain from a crime bill

RedPanty yuh dotish too bad. Ent Arse Wari love to pull out he special majority waiver? Why you studying the UNC? Kantish LFD RFD PNM still need a scapegoat after 6 years? Ollour real sad yes!

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Postby pugboy » December 12th, 2021, 10:46 am

a whole week and no social media rant from GG
a new record

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Postby hover11 » December 12th, 2021, 10:55 am

pugboy wrote:a whole week and no social media rant from GG
a new record
You know next week he in overdrive right

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Postby Mmoney607 » December 12th, 2021, 11:05 am

He was getting results, you was seeing a difference, Gary was the best commissioner since Burroughs. Look since he gone, crime gone up. Rowley didn't want Gary because Gary not fraid to lock up nobody.

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Postby MaxPower » December 12th, 2021, 11:11 am

Mmoney607 wrote:He was getting results, you was seeing a difference, Gary was the best commissioner since Burroughs. Look since he gone, crime gone up. Rowley didn't want Gary because Gary not fraid to lock up nobody.


Crime was still high under Gary.

The results are not good enough and no major significance.

Maybe better than past COPs but rather than competing and boasting, we need to get the crime rate LOW.

GG failed the people of T&T. He just bought love with the words in his press conference.

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Postby zoom rader » December 12th, 2021, 12:11 pm

MaxPower wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:He was getting results, you was seeing a difference, Gary was the best commissioner since Burroughs. Look since he gone, crime gone up. Rowley didn't want Gary because Gary not fraid to lock up nobody.


Crime was still high under Gary.

The results are not good enough and no major significance.

Maybe better than past COPs but rather than competing and boasting, we need to get the crime rate LOW.

GG failed the people of T&T. He just bought love with the words in his press conference.
Question, why is crime high?

A.GG is a failure?
B.Red government employed the wrong person?
C.Citizens to blame?
D. Kams to blame?

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Postby pugboy » December 12th, 2021, 12:15 pm

GG caught any big fish ?
#askingforafriend

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Postby hover11 » December 12th, 2021, 12:15 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:He was getting results, you was seeing a difference, Gary was the best commissioner since Burroughs. Look since he gone, crime gone up. Rowley didn't want Gary because Gary not fraid to lock up nobody.


Crime was still high under Gary.

The results are not good enough and no major significance.

Maybe better than past COPs but rather than competing and boasting, we need to get the crime rate LOW.

GG failed the people of T&T. He just bought love with the words in his press conference.
Question, why is crime high?

A.GG is a failure?
B.Red government employed the wrong person?
C.Citizens to blame?
D. Kams to blame?
E. All of the above, but they more focused on D. Crime is nothing new in Trinidad we have become desensitized to 500 murders a year but only when women are murdered then there is an uproar, yet the government of the day targets a woman for their missteps and inactions instead of having accountability

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Postby zoom rader » December 12th, 2021, 12:17 pm

pugboy wrote:GG caught any big fish ?
#askingforafriend
Nah, they all went St Mary's so they good citizens

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Postby hover11 » December 12th, 2021, 12:18 pm

pugboy wrote:GG caught any big fish ?
#askingforafriend
Marlene and her husband count?

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hover11 wrote:
pugboy wrote:GG caught any big fish ?
#askingforafriend
Marlene and her husband count?


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Postby VII » December 12th, 2021, 1:27 pm

Crime was still high under Gary but there was a system that was bearing fruit with criminals being intercepted because of better management of assets etc.. right now we're back into the Willaims slow walk.. "am am am" ..

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Postby alfa » December 12th, 2021, 2:24 pm

Gary doesn't know it yet but it was never his job to fight crime. His position was that of an administrator and in that sense he did do certain things well. Introduction of body cams, taser as well as attempting to introduce polygraph tests for officers were all great administrative initiatives. Gary was never required to patrol on foot in hotspots with SORT as we saw him do an was a liability in doing so. The whole team would be more focused on protecting the boss instead of the actual mission.
He did do his job well as an administrator and the other antics he performed were purely for show. I still maintain that the role of actual crime fighting has to be initiated and sustained by the individual district sargents or whoever is the boss in a station. If you need a commissioner to say let's raid this drug block or let's do a patrol at this suspected port of entry then something is inherently wrong in the ttps

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Postby pugboy » December 12th, 2021, 2:40 pm

“investigations ongoing and at a sensitive stage”

VII wrote:Crime was still high under Gary but there was a system that was bearing fruit with criminals being intercepted because of better management of assets etc.. right now we're back into the Willaims slow walk.. "am am am" ..

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Postby rollingstock » December 12th, 2021, 2:50 pm

VII wrote:Crime was still high under Gary but there was a system that was bearing fruit with criminals being intercepted because of better management of assets etc.. right now we're back into the Willaims slow walk.. "am am am" ..


More like better PR.
Jacob and/or whoever after should take a page from his book.

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Postby hover11 » December 12th, 2021, 2:54 pm

Gary was the face of TTPS, when people thought about police they instantly thought about GG as some type of beacon of hope in the police service. It was his charisma and ppl used to watch his press conferences to get a laugh but concerning his performance it was definitely better than what we had , however our standards of performance was relatively low with the likes of Williams etc. It's just GG was more vocal that's about it.

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Postby Mmoney607 » December 12th, 2021, 2:56 pm

alfa wrote:Gary doesn't know it yet but it was never his job to fight crime. His position was that of an administrator and in that sense he did do certain things well. Introduction of body cams, taser as well as attempting to introduce polygraph tests for officers were all great administrative initiatives. Gary was never required to patrol on foot in hotspots with SORT as we saw him do an was a liability in doing so. The whole team would be more focused on protecting the boss instead of the actual mission.
He did do his job well as an administrator and the other antics he performed were purely for show. I still maintain that the role of actual crime fighting has to be initiated and sustained by the individual district sargents or whoever is the boss in a station. If you need a commissioner to say let's raid this drug block or let's do a patrol at this suspected port of entry then something is inherently wrong in the ttps


Nah we need a commissioner that on the ground, not one who sit down in a nice ac office in shirt and tie whole day.

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Postby MaxPower » December 12th, 2021, 3:07 pm

GG is not important at this stage.

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Postby pugboy » December 12th, 2021, 3:25 pm

jacobs appears to be trying to do pr

everyday he appearing in the news
but somehow ain’t exactly inspiring public confidence

rollingstock wrote:
VII wrote:Crime was still high under Gary but there was a system that was bearing fruit with criminals being intercepted because of better management of assets etc.. right now we're back into the Willaims slow walk.. "am am am" ..


More like better PR.
Jacob and/or whoever after should take a page from his book.

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Postby rollingstock » December 12th, 2021, 5:29 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
alfa wrote:Gary doesn't know it yet but it was never his job to fight crime. His position was that of an administrator and in that sense he did do certain things well. Introduction of body cams, taser as well as attempting to introduce polygraph tests for officers were all great administrative initiatives. Gary was never required to patrol on foot in hotspots with SORT as we saw him do an was a liability in doing so. The whole team would be more focused on protecting the boss instead of the actual mission.
He did do his job well as an administrator and the other antics he performed were purely for show. I still maintain that the role of actual crime fighting has to be initiated and sustained by the individual district sargents or whoever is the boss in a station. If you need a commissioner to say let's raid this drug block or let's do a patrol at this suspected port of entry then something is inherently wrong in the ttps


Nah we need a commissioner that on the ground, not one who sit down in a nice ac office in shirt and tie whole day.


And CEO's of manufacturing companies should be on the assembly line.

Any other dumb ideas?

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Postby De Dragon » December 12th, 2021, 5:36 pm

rollingstock wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:
alfa wrote:Gary doesn't know it yet but it was never his job to fight crime. His position was that of an administrator and in that sense he did do certain things well. Introduction of body cams, taser as well as attempting to introduce polygraph tests for officers were all great administrative initiatives. Gary was never required to patrol on foot in hotspots with SORT as we saw him do an was a liability in doing so. The whole team would be more focused on protecting the boss instead of the actual mission.
He did do his job well as an administrator and the other antics he performed were purely for show. I still maintain that the role of actual crime fighting has to be initiated and sustained by the individual district sargents or whoever is the boss in a station. If you need a commissioner to say let's raid this drug block or let's do a patrol at this suspected port of entry then something is inherently wrong in the ttps


Nah we need a commissioner that on the ground, not one who sit down in a nice ac office in shirt and tie whole day.


And CEO's of manufacturing companies should be on the assembly line.

Any other dumb ideas?

Trinis and their confusion about, but love of pappyshow :roll:
Geeyore was nothing but a publicity seeker with those "raids"

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Postby hover11 » December 13th, 2021, 7:11 am

Gary scored 94.8 per cent on discarded PSC merit list

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/gary-scored-94-8 ... erit-list/

This is a joke?

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Postby MaxPower » December 13th, 2021, 8:17 am

94.8 and the crime rate in the country is high AF?

What he wants, a medal?

GG is more concerned with competing against others rather than competing with criminals.

GG is the joke.

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