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Postby alfa » September 26th, 2021, 10:08 pm

sam1978 wrote:Maxipoo, lots of red govt people already are firearm owners. They don’t need FULs.

Venes to

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Postby MaxPower » September 26th, 2021, 10:19 pm

Settle down boys

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Postby zoom rader » September 26th, 2021, 10:55 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Total horse 5hit

Do you have edvendence of what you wrote?

"The general population is just too irresponsible and FULs for all is not compatible with our culture".


Zoombindras,

You really asking for edvendence on how the general population is too irresponsible?

You have no clue about the typical Trini culture?

Well holy sheit, i really don’t know where to start.

You spent too much time in Bantanamo and like you clueless as to what is happening in T&T.

If you have to ask for evidence on the irresponsibility and lawlessness of Trinis, then brother you are lost.
You full of 5hit, you talking out of your stupid arse.

Where are your figures to prove legal gun owners are irresponsible?

You know Jack 5hit about gun ownership and the process involved . It's idiots like you that give legal gun owners a bad rep

Not even air guns are irresponsible


Zoom,

Don’t tote that you get blank for a FUL for the lil goat farm in Tobago bro..behhhhh behhhhhh

The situation with gun ownership is good now, but we cannot issue too many FULs to Trinis.

Enough Trinis have already, can’t issue too much to get the situation out of control.

What’s gonna happen when more of your red government people have FULs?
Jack Max here's a clue

Cow farming with 11 acres of land

Try and figure it out

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Re: "Official" GARY GRIFFITH & POLICE related matters thread ...

Postby MaxPower » September 26th, 2021, 11:21 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Total horse 5hit

Do you have edvendence of what you wrote?

"The general population is just too irresponsible and FULs for all is not compatible with our culture".


Zoombindras,

You really asking for edvendence on how the general population is too irresponsible?

You have no clue about the typical Trini culture?

Well holy sheit, i really don’t know where to start.

You spent too much time in Bantanamo and like you clueless as to what is happening in T&T.

If you have to ask for evidence on the irresponsibility and lawlessness of Trinis, then brother you are lost.
You full of 5hit, you talking out of your stupid arse.

Where are your figures to prove legal gun owners are irresponsible?

You know Jack 5hit about gun ownership and the process involved . It's idiots like you that give legal gun owners a bad rep

Not even air guns are irresponsible


Zoom,

Don’t tote that you get blank for a FUL for the lil goat farm in Tobago bro..behhhhh behhhhhh

The situation with gun ownership is good now, but we cannot issue too many FULs to Trinis.

Enough Trinis have already, can’t issue too much to get the situation out of control.

What’s gonna happen when more of your red government people have FULs?
Jack Max here's a clue

Cow farming with 11 acres of land

Try and figure it out


Still no FUL bro.

Reap the land and pay the processing fee.

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Re: "Official" GARY GRIFFITH & POLICE related matters thread ...

Postby zoom rader » September 28th, 2021, 7:21 am

Former chairman of the Police Service Commission (PSC) Ramesh Deosaran yesterday described the current state of the now fully imploded PSC as a "mess" and said that the independence of the Commission was now "in a grey area".

Deosaran's description came just after the resignation of the last standing Commissioner, attorney Roger Kawalsingh.

The PSC now only comprises its chairman Bliss Seepersad as over the past week, Commissioners Courtney Mc Nish, Dr Sandra Craig-James and now Kawalsingh have walked away from the Commission.

Kawalsingh's resignation was formalised yesterday with the release from the Office of the President acknowledging that it was with immediate effect.

Deosaran yesterday said that Seepersad can now either have her appointment rescinded or wait until the Commission is re-staffed.

"She alone standing there is of no functional effect," he said.

"She could remain because she was appointed but she cannot activate the business of the Commission," he said.

Before its collapse, the Seepersad-led Commission rescinded the suspension of acting Commissioner Gary Griffith while it led an investigation into the Firearm User License matter. Griffith had given the PSC until October 31 to complete its investigation. But now any findings would have to be held until the new PSC is commissioned.

"She is non-functional in terms of the business of the Commission. The Commission is still alive as far as the Constitution goes, it's just a matter of staffing," he said.

"It is a ticklish thing with the numbers," Deosaran said.

He said that there must be five members in the PSC but "there were only four Commissioners for such a long time," he said.

Deosaran said that because of the way that Seepersad "managed" the legal advice she got on the handling of the Griffith appointment and the manner in which she "disregarded" the views of the other Commissioners, "it appeared as if something was happening behind the scenes".

"That diluted the imperative for full independence from political interference," he said.

Deosaran said that the political interference accusation was a "red herring".

"Because the parliament, the politicians make the final decision and the Commission becomes just a messenger to make a formal appointment," he said.

"The Prime Minister and the majority makes the final decision," he said.

Deosaran said that the Prime Minister agreed that the legislative and administrative framework is worst than it has ever been.

"Having said that publicly that it is the worse, the country would expect him now to do something about it," he said.

Over the weekend, the Office of the President said that a nominee was before Parliament to be debated but that the session had lapsed when Parliament adjourned. Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar refuted that but Leader of Government Business Camille Robinson-Regis issued a statement correcting Persad-Bissessar and reminding her that the name Vincel Edwards was before the Parliament to be discussed.

However, Deosaran said even if Edwards passes muster in Parliament, the PSC is still lacking enough members to hold a quorum.

He added Kawalsingh's resignation means that Seepersad could either wait until the Commission is re-staffed or her own appointment could be rescinded but the rash of resignations put Seepersad and her actions at the PolSC under a microscope


The Red Government has killed the PSC

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Postby MaxPower » September 28th, 2021, 3:23 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Former chairman of the Police Service Commission (PSC) Ramesh Deosaran yesterday described the current state of the now fully imploded PSC as a "mess" and said that the independence of the Commission was now "in a grey area".

Deosaran's description came just after the resignation of the last standing Commissioner, attorney Roger Kawalsingh.

The PSC now only comprises its chairman Bliss Seepersad as over the past week, Commissioners Courtney Mc Nish, Dr Sandra Craig-James and now Kawalsingh have walked away from the Commission.

Kawalsingh's resignation was formalised yesterday with the release from the Office of the President acknowledging that it was with immediate effect.

Deosaran yesterday said that Seepersad can now either have her appointment rescinded or wait until the Commission is re-staffed.

"She alone standing there is of no functional effect," he said.

"She could remain because she was appointed but she cannot activate the business of the Commission," he said.

Before its collapse, the Seepersad-led Commission rescinded the suspension of acting Commissioner Gary Griffith while it led an investigation into the Firearm User License matter. Griffith had given the PSC until October 31 to complete its investigation. But now any findings would have to be held until the new PSC is commissioned.

"She is non-functional in terms of the business of the Commission. The Commission is still alive as far as the Constitution goes, it's just a matter of staffing," he said.

"It is a ticklish thing with the numbers," Deosaran said.

He said that there must be five members in the PSC but "there were only four Commissioners for such a long time," he said.

Deosaran said that because of the way that Seepersad "managed" the legal advice she got on the handling of the Griffith appointment and the manner in which she "disregarded" the views of the other Commissioners, "it appeared as if something was happening behind the scenes".

"That diluted the imperative for full independence from political interference," he said.

Deosaran said that the political interference accusation was a "red herring".

"Because the parliament, the politicians make the final decision and the Commission becomes just a messenger to make a formal appointment," he said.

"The Prime Minister and the majority makes the final decision," he said.

Deosaran said that the Prime Minister agreed that the legislative and administrative framework is worst than it has ever been.

"Having said that publicly that it is the worse, the country would expect him now to do something about it," he said.

Over the weekend, the Office of the President said that a nominee was before Parliament to be debated but that the session had lapsed when Parliament adjourned. Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar refuted that but Leader of Government Business Camille Robinson-Regis issued a statement correcting Persad-Bissessar and reminding her that the name Vincel Edwards was before the Parliament to be discussed.

However, Deosaran said even if Edwards passes muster in Parliament, the PSC is still lacking enough members to hold a quorum.

He added Kawalsingh's resignation means that Seepersad could either wait until the Commission is re-staffed or her own appointment could be rescinded but the rash of resignations put Seepersad and her actions at the PolSC under a microscope


The Red Government has killed the PSC


Zoom,

What do you think will happen to GG?

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Postby zoom rader » September 28th, 2021, 3:37 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Former chairman of the Police Service Commission (PSC) Ramesh Deosaran yesterday described the current state of the now fully imploded PSC as a "mess" and said that the independence of the Commission was now "in a grey area".

Deosaran's description came just after the resignation of the last standing Commissioner, attorney Roger Kawalsingh.

The PSC now only comprises its chairman Bliss Seepersad as over the past week, Commissioners Courtney Mc Nish, Dr Sandra Craig-James and now Kawalsingh have walked away from the Commission.

Kawalsingh's resignation was formalised yesterday with the release from the Office of the President acknowledging that it was with immediate effect.

Deosaran yesterday said that Seepersad can now either have her appointment rescinded or wait until the Commission is re-staffed.

"She alone standing there is of no functional effect," he said.

"She could remain because she was appointed but she cannot activate the business of the Commission," he said.

Before its collapse, the Seepersad-led Commission rescinded the suspension of acting Commissioner Gary Griffith while it led an investigation into the Firearm User License matter. Griffith had given the PSC until October 31 to complete its investigation. But now any findings would have to be held until the new PSC is commissioned.

"She is non-functional in terms of the business of the Commission. The Commission is still alive as far as the Constitution goes, it's just a matter of staffing," he said.

"It is a ticklish thing with the numbers," Deosaran said.

He said that there must be five members in the PSC but "there were only four Commissioners for such a long time," he said.

Deosaran said that because of the way that Seepersad "managed" the legal advice she got on the handling of the Griffith appointment and the manner in which she "disregarded" the views of the other Commissioners, "it appeared as if something was happening behind the scenes".

"That diluted the imperative for full independence from political interference," he said.

Deosaran said that the political interference accusation was a "red herring".

"Because the parliament, the politicians make the final decision and the Commission becomes just a messenger to make a formal appointment," he said.

"The Prime Minister and the majority makes the final decision," he said.

Deosaran said that the Prime Minister agreed that the legislative and administrative framework is worst than it has ever been.

"Having said that publicly that it is the worse, the country would expect him now to do something about it," he said.

Over the weekend, the Office of the President said that a nominee was before Parliament to be debated but that the session had lapsed when Parliament adjourned. Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar refuted that but Leader of Government Business Camille Robinson-Regis issued a statement correcting Persad-Bissessar and reminding her that the name Vincel Edwards was before the Parliament to be discussed.

However, Deosaran said even if Edwards passes muster in Parliament, the PSC is still lacking enough members to hold a quorum.

He added Kawalsingh's resignation means that Seepersad could either wait until the Commission is re-staffed or her own appointment could be rescinded but the rash of resignations put Seepersad and her actions at the PolSC under a microscope


The Red Government has killed the PSC


Zoom,

What do you think will happen to GG?
Time for thinking done

We looking more like North Korea every day

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Postby K74T » September 30th, 2021, 1:52 pm

Police Service Commission chairman Ms Bliss Seepersad has resigned. The announcement was made via the office of the President a short while ago.

The following is a press release from the Office of the president:

Her Excellency Paula-Mae Weekes O.R.T.T., President of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, has today (Thursday September 30) accepted the resignation with immediate effect of Ms. Bliss Seepersad as Chairman and Member of the Police Service Commission.


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Postby hover11 » September 30th, 2021, 1:55 pm

K74T wrote:Police Service Commission chairman Ms Bliss Seepersad has resigned. The announcement was made via the office of the President a short while ago.

The following is a press release from the Office of the president:

Her Excellency Paula-Mae Weekes O.R.T.T., President of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, has today (Thursday September 30) accepted the resignation with immediate effect of Ms. Bliss Seepersad as Chairman and Member of the Police Service Commission.


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Postby bluefete » September 30th, 2021, 2:05 pm

hover11 wrote:
K74T wrote:Police Service Commission chairman Ms Bliss Seepersad has resigned. The announcement was made via the office of the President a short while ago.

The following is a press release from the Office of the president:

Her Excellency Paula-Mae Weekes O.R.T.T., President of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, has today (Thursday September 30) accepted the resignation with immediate effect of Ms. Bliss Seepersad as Chairman and Member of the Police Service Commission.


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Took her long enough


Damn right it took her long enough!

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Postby MaxPower » September 30th, 2021, 2:41 pm

All these resignations,

Is this good or bad for GG?

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Postby bluefete » September 30th, 2021, 3:00 pm

MaxPower wrote:All these resignations,

Is this good or bad for GG?


Good question Max

It is clear that the PNM does not want him back.

Any new Commissioners on the PolSC can only RECOMMEND a top cop.

The PNM government can veto it until they get who they want.

But McDonald Jacob looks like he will be acting for a while.

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Postby zoom rader » September 30th, 2021, 3:10 pm

bluefete wrote:
MaxPower wrote:All these resignations,

Is this good or bad for GG?


Good question Max

It is clear that the PNM does not want him back.

Any new Commissioners on the PolSC can only RECOMMEND a top cop.

The PNM government can veto it until they get who they want.

But McDonald Jacob looks like he will be acting for a while.
Remember what the red government did to the Integrity Commission?

Expect an all black crew coming in

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Postby K74T » September 30th, 2021, 3:29 pm

Can you not see past race for once?

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Postby zoom rader » September 30th, 2021, 3:41 pm

K74T wrote:Can you not see past race for once?
You and the rest of red government idiots all live in fairy tale. This plays out everytime they come into office, they systematically destroy working offices and put idiots in.

If you and other can't see this then you are bigger fool like the rest

This why this country is in mess with no accountability and its idiots like you that put these people in.

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Postby sam1978 » September 30th, 2021, 5:19 pm

MaxPower wrote:All these resignations,

Is this good or bad for GG?


In any event the procedure for his selection was faulty. So he is not the Commissioner unless the PSC is reconstituted , and it is done in the correct manner.

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Postby The_Honourable » September 30th, 2021, 5:38 pm

If the merit list did reach the President before the PSC fell apart, it can still be sent to Parliament for debate.

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hover11 wrote:
K74T wrote:Police Service Commission chairman Ms Bliss Seepersad has resigned. The announcement was made via the office of the President a short while ago.

The following is a press release from the Office of the president:

Her Excellency Paula-Mae Weekes O.R.T.T., President of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, has today (Thursday September 30) accepted the resignation with immediate effect of Ms. Bliss Seepersad as Chairman and Member of the Police Service Commission.


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Postby pugboy » October 3rd, 2021, 6:54 pm

hope they got a receipt for their "processing fees"

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"Official" GARY GRIFFITH & POLICE related matters thread ...

Postby MaxPower » October 3rd, 2021, 10:03 pm

pugboy wrote:hope they got a receipt for their "processing fees"


Yeh bro ofcourse.

Just like how DSS people got back their money.

The more time passes, the longer applications pend, the more likely for them to get misplaced, the more documents expire, the more people are going to get frustrated waiting, the more processing fees to come.

The only thing i see changing is the people who collecting the money.

Everything else will be the same. The racket just too big and have so much cash flow to just abandon.

It’s a cycle.

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Postby pugboy » October 4th, 2021, 5:15 am

economics of demand and supply
more demand
higher fees

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Postby Ben_spanna » October 4th, 2021, 7:41 am

GG was doing a great job, you all need to be questioning is who in this government wanted him removed and WHY? what was GG onto that eventually may have lead directly to them..... blind is our population of gutless idiots!

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Postby pugboy » October 4th, 2021, 7:58 am

gg caught any big fish?
asking for a friend

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Postby Gladiator » October 4th, 2021, 4:20 pm

pugboy wrote:gg caught any big fish?
asking for a friend


Well he did arrest and charge a large hog... not too sure about any fish

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Postby WestIndian424 » October 4th, 2021, 5:20 pm

Gladiator wrote:
pugboy wrote:gg caught any big fish?
asking for a friend


Well he did arrest and charge a large hog... not too sure about any fish


:lol:

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Postby bluefete » October 4th, 2021, 5:27 pm

Gladiator wrote:
pugboy wrote:gg caught any big fish?
asking for a friend


Well he did arrest and charge a large hog... not too sure about any fish


And look where it got him.

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Postby The_Honourable » October 7th, 2021, 9:33 pm

Pressure for Paula... so the list is in her possession

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Postby pugboy » October 7th, 2021, 10:42 pm

allyuh making the woman do work instead of being in rubber stamp mode

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Postby gastly369 » October 7th, 2021, 10:47 pm

I does genuinely forget she even exists yes....

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