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Re: "Official" POLICE & Police Commisioner Related Matters thread ...

Postby pugboy » November 2nd, 2022, 4:04 pm

the data circuit is a recurring cost though, is the $80m for hardware along or hardware plus data circuits for a certain time?

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Postby hover11 » November 2nd, 2022, 4:08 pm

There is nothing there worth 80 million . Joe could say what he want, I'm pretty sure if it cost 1 billion dollars he would have defended it. This is just food for the boys....plain talk

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Postby pugboy » November 2nd, 2022, 4:44 pm

I recall in the past under stuey the figure they used to bandy with owing tstt was 250m or something like that
but that may have been accumulated figures

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Postby Chimera » November 2nd, 2022, 5:08 pm

pugboy wrote:what type of software do you mean ?
the recording and recall part or the ptz control software ?

I have regular 8mp hk cameras on outside my property looking up and down the street
ttps has come a few times to see if they could getfootage to assist in some other crimes off avenue
in each case they said these "consumer" grade cameras were better than the fancy ones on the avenue


Phone Surgeon wrote:commercial ip cameras with proper legit software costs are amazing

i once did a 16 camera system for 100,000 for a corporation

i gave them the option...chinese ip cameras with just as good quality and 3rd party software for 20k for all 16 cameras

nah them eh want thatttt

best of the best

100k for 16 cams installed. custom made NVR

and within 2 months they take down all the cameras when they redid the facing of the building



this was over 8 years ago when a IP camera software was new and only big big brands like geovision had proper software

the chinese software was copies of the geovision and others

just like how HIK vision is a big brand now with their own software and many other companies copy and use their software

back then it wasnt plug and play and DVRS and NVRS recognising each other cameras automatically

to use a geovision IP camera you had to have a purpose built NVR tower and pay subscription and licenses

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Postby Chimera » November 2nd, 2022, 5:08 pm

thats not ptz i talking aboutttt

that was 14 1.3 mp dome camearas and 2 4mp dome cameras

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Postby hover11 » November 2nd, 2022, 9:11 pm

Funny enough anybody remember seeing a tender advertised for this service or the government picked who they wanted for such....

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hover11 wrote:Funny enough anybody remember seeing a tender advertised for this service or the government picked who they wanted for such....


is 80 million dollars the man say

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Postby paid_influencer » November 2nd, 2022, 9:34 pm

police already know who the pests are but doing nothing because nothing works

people with assault rifles outside and doing all kinda chit on bail. justice system taking 10 to 20 years to get a conviction. dana seetahal get kill out trying to fix it

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Postby pugboy » November 3rd, 2022, 5:42 am

farmer say facial recognition cameras coming
that must be the nice fat part of the $80m contract a 1% get to supply

bad news is all we bandits does wear cap and masks plus they dark skinned
so almost impossible to see somebody face unless extremely well lit place.
I can tell you this since I had a home invasion and I have multiple hik cameras and wyze cameras

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Postby 16 cycles » November 3rd, 2022, 6:40 am

pugboy wrote:farmer say facial recognition cameras coming
that must be the nice fat part of the $80m contract a 1% get to supply

bad news is all we bandits does wear cap and masks plus they dark skinned
so almost impossible to see somebody face unless extremely well lit place.
I can tell you this since I had a home invasion and I have multiple hik cameras and wyze cameras


think the laws not set up to prosecute on video evidence only - so that's another hurdle

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Postby hover11 » November 3rd, 2022, 7:10 am

16 cycles wrote:
pugboy wrote:farmer say facial recognition cameras coming
that must be the nice fat part of the $80m contract a 1% get to supply

bad news is all we bandits does wear cap and masks plus they dark skinned
so almost impossible to see somebody face unless extremely well lit place.
I can tell you this since I had a home invasion and I have multiple hik cameras and wyze cameras


think the laws not set up to prosecute on video evidence only - so that's another hurdle
Correct video evidence is not admissible in a court of law, you could have a video of a guy clearly committing a crime, let's say Mr.Two pull, yet he and his lawyer can state that was tampered with and not his client thus throwing it out of court.

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Postby MaxPower » November 3rd, 2022, 7:50 am

Trinis,

What reallly are your expectations with this 80m “investment”?

Must we hype up ourselves every single time for the same end result.

As with everything in T&T, poor maintenance prevails. Citizens will make reports and will be told “it not working”.

Come on T&T where are we really heading?

We need foreign leaders.

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Postby Chimera » November 3rd, 2022, 8:12 am

hover11 wrote:
16 cycles wrote:
pugboy wrote:farmer say facial recognition cameras coming
that must be the nice fat part of the $80m contract a 1% get to supply

bad news is all we bandits does wear cap and masks plus they dark skinned
so almost impossible to see somebody face unless extremely well lit place.
I can tell you this since I had a home invasion and I have multiple hik cameras and wyze cameras


think the laws not set up to prosecute on video evidence only - so that's another hurdle
Correct video evidence is not admissible in a court of law, you could have a video of a guy clearly committing a crime, let's say Mr.Two pull, yet he and his lawyer can state that was tampered with and not his client thus throwing it out of court.



video evidence doesnt have to be admissible in court for you to use it

it can be used to conduct enquiries and pressure suspects

"mr hover your vehicle was parked at this notorious gay club for several nights, someone resembling you and wearing the same clothes you are now was seen going in the club holding hands with different men on different nights"
"we have several videos showing this information . we also have sword affidavits/statements from the bouncer at the club and several persons in the gay community about your lifestyle.
"mr hover is it true you prefer the company of men to women? "

see how they use the video footage to conduct an investigation?

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Postby pugboy » November 3rd, 2022, 8:20 am

we are wasting time with trying to track the same ppl who have dozens have previous offences in their names
just implement a proper gps bracelet tracking system on all these offenders

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Postby j.o.e » November 3rd, 2022, 11:40 am

hover11 wrote:There is nothing there worth 80 million . Joe could say what he want, I'm pretty sure if it cost 1 billion dollars he would have defended it. This is just food for the boys....plain talk


Price it out for we nah hoovs

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Postby redmanjp » November 3rd, 2022, 2:23 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:
hover11 wrote:
16 cycles wrote:
pugboy wrote:farmer say facial recognition cameras coming
that must be the nice fat part of the $80m contract a 1% get to supply

bad news is all we bandits does wear cap and masks plus they dark skinned
so almost impossible to see somebody face unless extremely well lit place.
I can tell you this since I had a home invasion and I have multiple hik cameras and wyze cameras


think the laws not set up to prosecute on video evidence only - so that's another hurdle
Correct video evidence is not admissible in a court of law, you could have a video of a guy clearly committing a crime, let's say Mr.Two pull, yet he and his lawyer can state that was tampered with and not his client thus throwing it out of court.



video evidence doesnt have to be admissible in court for you to use it

it can be used to conduct enquiries and pressure suspects

"mr hover your vehicle was parked at this notorious gay club for several nights, someone resembling you and wearing the same clothes you are now was seen going in the club holding hands with different men on different nights"
"we have several videos showing this information . we also have sword affidavits/statements from the bouncer at the club and several persons in the gay community about your lifestyle.
"mr hover is it true you prefer the company of men to women? "

see how they use the video footage to conduct an investigation?


also used as a basis to get a search warrant for instance if it is the suspect stole items- and when those items are actually found they can be used in court- that's how it can work- or get cell phone records of them being in the area. if the camera can pick up a license plate of the vehicle they in which was reported stolen they getting charge for that as well.

but recently tho i believe they changed laws to allow video evidence- u may just have to have the officer who using the software testifying in court, and perhaps a video expert who can refute claims of tampering.

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Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2022, 5:34 am

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... d9b5e.html

man say he was flagging ppl who had 2 pieces for applying for more
sounds quite the opposite

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Postby timelapse » November 5th, 2022, 7:09 am

redmanjp wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
hover11 wrote:
16 cycles wrote:
pugboy wrote:farmer say facial recognition cameras coming
that must be the nice fat part of the $80m contract a 1% get to supply

bad news is all we bandits does wear cap and masks plus they dark skinned
so almost impossible to see somebody face unless extremely well lit place.
I can tell you this since I had a home invasion and I have multiple hik cameras and wyze cameras


think the laws not set up to prosecute on video evidence only - so that's another hurdle
Correct video evidence is not admissible in a court of law, you could have a video of a guy clearly committing a crime, let's say Mr.Two pull, yet he and his lawyer can state that was tampered with and not his client thus throwing it out of court.



video evidence doesnt have to be admissible in court for you to use it

it can be used to conduct enquiries and pressure suspects

"mr hover your vehicle was parked at this notorious gay club for several nights, someone resembling you and wearing the same clothes you are now was seen going in the club holding hands with different men on different nights"
"we have several videos showing this information . we also have sword affidavits/statements from the bouncer at the club and several persons in the gay community about your lifestyle.
"mr hover is it true you prefer the company of men to women? "

see how they use the video footage to conduct an investigation?


also used as a basis to get a search warrant for instance if it is the suspect stole items- and when those items are actually found they can be used in court- that's how it can work- or get cell phone records of them being in the area. if the camera can pick up a license plate of the vehicle they in which was reported stolen they getting charge for that as well.

but recently tho i believe they changed laws to allow video evidence- u may just have to have the officer who using the software testifying in court, and perhaps a video expert who can refute claims of tampering.
Because we all know that cops don't lie

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Postby hover11 » November 5th, 2022, 7:39 am

timelapse wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
hover11 wrote:
16 cycles wrote:
pugboy wrote:farmer say facial recognition cameras coming
that must be the nice fat part of the $80m contract a 1% get to supply

bad news is all we bandits does wear cap and masks plus they dark skinned
so almost impossible to see somebody face unless extremely well lit place.
I can tell you this since I had a home invasion and I have multiple hik cameras and wyze cameras


think the laws not set up to prosecute on video evidence only - so that's another hurdle
Correct video evidence is not admissible in a court of law, you could have a video of a guy clearly committing a crime, let's say Mr.Two pull, yet he and his lawyer can state that was tampered with and not his client thus throwing it out of court.



video evidence doesnt have to be admissible in court for you to use it

it can be used to conduct enquiries and pressure suspects

"mr hover your vehicle was parked at this notorious gay club for several nights, someone resembling you and wearing the same clothes you are now was seen going in the club holding hands with different men on different nights"
"we have several videos showing this information . we also have sword affidavits/statements from the bouncer at the club and several persons in the gay community about your lifestyle.
"mr hover is it true you prefer the company of men to women? "

see how they use the video footage to conduct an investigation?


also used as a basis to get a search warrant for instance if it is the suspect stole items- and when those items are actually found they can be used in court- that's how it can work- or get cell phone records of them being in the area. if the camera can pick up a license plate of the vehicle they in which was reported stolen they getting charge for that as well.

but recently tho i believe they changed laws to allow video evidence- u may just have to have the officer who using the software testifying in court, and perhaps a video expert who can refute claims of tampering.
Because we all know that cops don't lie
Lol and we all know how punctual cops are when it comes to court. Good luck getting an officer show up for a court matter to testify on your behalf unless he knows you....

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Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2022, 7:55 am

the ttps cctv dept is basically just a collection group, they go out after crime scenes to pull the video off the victims dvr
not any legal dept

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Postby Chimera » November 5th, 2022, 11:04 am

hovie u had problems with police showing up for court?
when that happen?
when u had donate your 40k to the fella?

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Postby hover11 » November 5th, 2022, 11:08 am

Not at all the officer was on vacation and still appeared on my behalf because I knew him....learn to read I was speaking in general not personally

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Postby pugboy » November 7th, 2022, 7:33 am

heard some of borat live vid last night about ful bobol

she actually played a tape recording a meeting he had with the dealers and how he expanding the gun sales industry
man talk about knowing it have all kind of corruption going on in ful lol

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Postby hover11 » November 9th, 2022, 6:49 am

The PCA and TTPS have told the AG’s Ministry they believe police officers should be given “some burden” for paying awards for damages in malicious prosecution cases—and the AG is considering a proposal on the matter.

Find out more...
https://www.cnc3.co.tt/ag-eyes-law-to-m ... ous-cases/

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Postby pugboy » November 9th, 2022, 6:54 am

brace for another day of policing

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Postby hover11 » November 9th, 2022, 6:57 am

pugboy wrote:brace for another day of policing
Something is coming...it will come like a theif in the night just like last time. That 4 percent left a bad taste in their mouths

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Postby MaxPower » November 9th, 2022, 7:07 am

pugboy wrote:brace for another day of policing


Define “policing” in T&T……..

More like selective

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Postby pugboy » November 9th, 2022, 7:10 am

the time they called it a "day of total policing"
road blocks for even ppl riding bicycles

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Postby MaxPower » November 9th, 2022, 7:55 am

pugboy wrote:the time they called it a "day of total policing"
road blocks for even ppl riding bicycles


Or ok

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Postby pugboy » November 9th, 2022, 10:44 pm

like gg finally decide to buss some files and make heinz into a liar for get ful for his security details

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