Sedition Act Prevails: Sat loss: Duke's case dismissed

[hydroep]

AG: We’ll appeal ‘dangerous’ ruling on Sedition Act
Sean Douglas

ATTORNEY GENERAL Faris Al-Rawi vowed to appeal to the Appeal Court and then Privy Council, Justice Frank Seepersad’s High Court “extremely dangerous judgement” which strikes down parts of the Sedition Act. The ruling aims to lift the Act’s ban on raising disaffection/discontent in society, and stirring up hostility amongst sections of the community.

At a briefing at his ministry on Monday, the AG said the ruling if it stands would set a bad precedent for other pre-Independence laws such as those mandating the death penalty and income tax confidentiality. These laws were “saved laws” whose validity was not struck down by being inconsistent with the citizens rights granted under the TT Constitution.

Further, Al-Rawi supported the existing Sedition Act as it upholds law and order.

Just as he has appealed the High Court ruling in activist Jason Jones’ challenge to the old law banning buggery, so too the AG vowed to appeal the sedition ruling.

“This judgement has wide-ranging consequences,” the AG said to justify his intent to appeal it as soon as possible in the Appeal Court.

Al-Rawi said TT has had riotous events worse than those in the pre-Independence era, citing the 1990 attempted coup. He said freedom of expression must be balanced by the need to maintain law and order. “Freedom of speech has limits.”

He said Seepersad’s ruling needs an expedited hearing in the Appeal Court, to then be settled in the Privy Council. “This judgement must get the fullest scrutiny.”

Newsday asked about the vagueness of section 3(1)(a-c) and whether any government should be able to quell free speech they view as raising discontent. Al-Rawi replied that no minister rules on that but that it is the Director of Public Prosecutions role to decide if to charge someone for a crime, after which the police lay charges. Asked if this was too much discretion for one man, the DPP, the AG replied that he upholds the powers given to the DPP in the Constitution in section 90. Otherwise, Al-Rawi promised amendments to the domestic violence legislation such as an electronic tagging of men who are subject to restraining orders, and a policy on the use of pepper spray (presumably for women for self-defence.) The AG said last Saturday the Financial Action Task Force had been in TT to assess several Caribbean countries including TT, the results of which will be very important for TT.

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/01/14/ag-well-appeal-dangerous-ruling-on-sedition-act/

[bluefete]

More taxpayers money to be wasted.

[zoom rader]

AG: We’ll appeal ‘dangerous’ ruling on Sedition Act
Sean Douglas

ATTORNEY GENERAL Faris Al-Rawi vowed to appeal to the Appeal Court and then Privy Council, Justice Frank Seepersad’s High Court “extremely dangerous judgement” which strikes down parts of the Sedition Act. The ruling aims to lift the Act’s ban on raising disaffection/discontent in society, and stirring up hostility amongst sections of the community.

At a briefing at his ministry on Monday, the AG said the ruling if it stands would set a bad precedent for other pre-Independence laws such as those mandating the death penalty and income tax confidentiality. These laws were “saved laws” whose validity was not struck down by being inconsistent with the citizens rights granted under the TT Constitution.

Further, Al-Rawi supported the existing Sedition Act as it upholds law and order.

Just as he has appealed the High Court ruling in activist Jason Jones’ challenge to the old law banning buggery, so too the AG vowed to appeal the sedition ruling.

“This judgement has wide-ranging consequences,” the AG said to justify his intent to appeal it as soon as possible in the Appeal Court.

Al-Rawi said TT has had riotous events worse than those in the pre-Independence era, citing the 1990 attempted coup. He said freedom of expression must be balanced by the need to maintain law and order. “Freedom of speech has limits.”

He said Seepersad’s ruling needs an expedited hearing in the Appeal Court, to then be settled in the Privy Council. “This judgement must get the fullest scrutiny.”

Newsday asked about the vagueness of section 3(1)(a-c) and whether any government should be able to quell free speech they view as raising discontent. Al-Rawi replied that no minister rules on that but that it is the Director of Public Prosecutions role to decide if to charge someone for a crime, after which the police lay charges. Asked if this was too much discretion for one man, the DPP, the AG replied that he upholds the powers given to the DPP in the Constitution in section 90. Otherwise, Al-Rawi promised amendments to the domestic violence legislation such as an electronic tagging of men who are subject to restraining orders, and a policy on the use of pepper spray (presumably for women for self-defence.) The AG said last Saturday the Financial Action Task Force had been in TT to assess several Caribbean countries including TT, the results of which will be very important for TT.

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/01/14/ag-well-appeal-dangerous-ruling-on-sedition-act/

Are we still in pre Independence ?

Eliteauto where did you all get this clown from?

[zoom rader]

AG: We’ll appeal ‘dangerous’ ruling on Sedition Act
Sean Douglas

ATTORNEY GENERAL Faris Al-Rawi vowed to appeal to the Appeal Court and then Privy Council, Justice Frank Seepersad’s High Court “extremely dangerous judgement” which strikes down parts of the Sedition Act. The ruling aims to lift the Act’s ban on raising disaffection/discontent in society, and stirring up hostility amongst sections of the community.

At a briefing at his ministry on Monday, the AG said the ruling if it stands would set a bad precedent for other pre-Independence laws such as those mandating the death penalty and income tax confidentiality. These laws were “saved laws” whose validity was not struck down by being inconsistent with the citizens rights granted under the TT Constitution.

Further, Al-Rawi supported the existing Sedition Act as it upholds law and order.

Just as he has appealed the High Court ruling in activist Jason Jones’ challenge to the old law banning buggery, so too the AG vowed to appeal the sedition ruling.

“This judgement has wide-ranging consequences,” the AG said to justify his intent to appeal it as soon as possible in the Appeal Court.

Al-Rawi said TT has had riotous events worse than those in the pre-Independence era, citing the 1990 attempted coup. He said freedom of expression must be balanced by the need to maintain law and order. “Freedom of speech has limits.”

He said Seepersad’s ruling needs an expedited hearing in the Appeal Court, to then be settled in the Privy Council. “This judgement must get the fullest scrutiny.”

Newsday asked about the vagueness of section 3(1)(a-c) and whether any government should be able to quell free speech they view as raising discontent. Al-Rawi replied that no minister rules on that but that it is the Director of Public Prosecutions role to decide if to charge someone for a crime, after which the police lay charges. Asked if this was too much discretion for one man, the DPP, the AG replied that he upholds the powers given to the DPP in the Constitution in section 90. Otherwise, Al-Rawi promised amendments to the domestic violence legislation such as an electronic tagging of men who are subject to restraining orders, and a policy on the use of pepper spray (presumably for women for self-defence.) The AG said last Saturday the Financial Action Task Force had been in TT to assess several Caribbean countries including TT, the results of which will be very important for TT.

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/01/14/ag-well-appeal-dangerous-ruling-on-sedition-act/

So he saying we cant have free speech cause some PNM bago ppl had their feelings hurt.

Everyday injun getting cuss and abused from PNM pp and i don't see PNM ppl be held accountable .

What the AG should be doing is laying discrimination and race hate laws, but it suits PNM cause they are the ones that propagate the anti indo program that they have

[16 cycles]

on the income tax law....

Norway: The country where no salaries are secret


.... In Norway, there are no such secrets. Anyone can find out how much anyone else is paid - and it rarely causes problems.

In the past, your salary was published in a book. A list of everyone's income, assets and the tax they had paid, could be found on a shelf in the public library. These days, the information is online, just a few keystrokes away.....

^transparency.....

[rspann]

We can't get an answer yet about Camille's $143000. After more than a year investigation.

[zoom rader]

We can't get an answer yet about Camille's $143000. After more than a year investigation.

Yeah but they quick to bust raid on Sat cause some PNM ppl had their feelings hurt

[pugboy]

Yes, appeal all the way to privy council
Doh mind rest of uk(privy council) and commonwealth already changed their laws as the judge himself did homework and said so.

[Dizzy28]

We can't get an answer yet about Camille's $143000. After more than a year investigation.

Could only fight obeah with obeah

[pugboy]

What about chirren with machine guns ?
Oh I forgot is the ppl who take the pics that are guilty.

We can't get an answer yet about Camille's $143000. After more than a year investigation.

[zoom rader]

What about chirren with machine guns ?
Oh I forgot is the ppl who take the pics that are guilty.

We can't get an answer yet about Camille's $143000. After more than a year investigation.

Yup where is the media?

Have they all gone silent on the AG kids shooting guns.

Who has to pay for those bullets that they used?

Where's dem PNM tuners to defend this .

This is just racist always showing black kids playing with gun but here the AG kids doing the same

[88sins]

What about chirren with machine guns ?
Oh I forgot is the ppl who take the pics that are guilty.

We can't get an answer yet about Camille's $143000. After more than a year investigation.

1-Yup where is the media?
2-Have they all gone silent on the AG kids shooting guns. yes

3-Who has to pay for those bullets that they used?
4-Where's dem PNM tuners to defend this .
This is just racist always showing black kids playing with gun but here the AG kids doing the same

1-in their buildings, doing the usual
2-yes
3-they were already paid for
4-hiding in the dark trying to think up excuses, & failing miserably at the task

[zoom rader]

What about chirren with machine guns ?
Oh I forgot is the ppl who take the pics that are guilty.

We can't get an answer yet about Camille's $143000. After more than a year investigation.

1-Yup where is the media?
2-Have they all gone silent on the AG kids shooting guns. yes

3-Who has to pay for those bullets that they used?
4-Where's dem PNM tuners to defend this .
This is just racist always showing black kids playing with gun but here the AG kids doing the same

1-in their buildings, doing the usual
2-yes
3-they were already paid for
4-hiding in the dark trying to think up excuses, & failing miserably at the task

I was hoping eliteauto would have responded since the Minsters are his buddies

[hydroep]

More taxpayers money to be wasted.

Yet they stopped the Malcolm Jones litigation — a case where there was potential for the country to recover millions — because THAT would have wasted taxpayers money.

Grate is the Pee oN stinking deM...

[zoom rader]

More taxpayers money to be wasted.

Yet they stopped the Malcolm Jones litigation — a case where there was potential for the country to recover millions — because THAT would have wasted taxpayers money.

Grate is the Pee oN stinking deM...

Redman like he fraid to comment on this.

[The_Honourable]

Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj claims his sedition case victory is very important to democracy and free speech.

[88sins]

More taxpayers money to be wasted.

Yet they stopped the Malcolm Jones litigation — a case where there was potential for the country to recover millions — because THAT would have wasted taxpayers money.

Grate is the Pee oN stinking deM...

Redman like he fraid to comment on this.

I'll take it one closer to the truth
Stink is d Piss oN deM

[De Dragon]

AG: We’ll appeal ‘dangerous’ ruling on Sedition Act
Sean Douglas

ATTORNEY GENERAL Faris Al-Rawi vowed to appeal to the Appeal Court and then Privy Council, Justice Frank Seepersad’s High Court “extremely dangerous judgement” which strikes down parts of the Sedition Act. The ruling aims to lift the Act’s ban on raising disaffection/discontent in society, and stirring up hostility amongst sections of the community.

At a briefing at his ministry on Monday, the AG said the ruling if it stands would set a bad precedent for other pre-Independence laws such as those mandating the death penalty and income tax confidentiality. These laws were “saved laws” whose validity was not struck down by being inconsistent with the citizens rights granted under the TT Constitution.

Further, Al-Rawi supported the existing Sedition Act as it upholds law and order.

Just as he has appealed the High Court ruling in activist Jason Jones’ challenge to the old law banning buggery, so too the AG vowed to appeal the sedition ruling.

“This judgement has wide-ranging consequences,” the AG said to justify his intent to appeal it as soon as possible in the Appeal Court.

Al-Rawi said TT has had riotous events worse than those in the pre-Independence era, citing the 1990 attempted coup. He said freedom of expression must be balanced by the need to maintain law and order. “Freedom of speech has limits.”

He said Seepersad’s ruling needs an expedited hearing in the Appeal Court, to then be settled in the Privy Council. “This judgement must get the fullest scrutiny.”

Newsday asked about the vagueness of section 3(1)(a-c) and whether any government should be able to quell free speech they view as raising discontent. Al-Rawi replied that no minister rules on that but that it is the Director of Public Prosecutions role to decide if to charge someone for a crime, after which the police lay charges. Asked if this was too much discretion for one man, the DPP, the AG replied that he upholds the powers given to the DPP in the Constitution in section 90. Otherwise, Al-Rawi promised amendments to the domestic violence legislation such as an electronic tagging of men who are subject to restraining orders, and a policy on the use of pepper spray (presumably for women for self-defence.) The AG said last Saturday the Financial Action Task Force had been in TT to assess several Caribbean countries including TT, the results of which will be very important for TT.

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/01/14/ag-well-appeal-dangerous-ruling-on-sedition-act/

Are we still in pre Independence ?

Eliteauto where did you all get this clown from?

See what our esteemed 7 year tight shirt wearers concerns are? Shirt lifting backstabbing, and censorship.

[Redman]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

The Jason Jones matter was appealed so that the Privy Council-the highest court would establish the law in that matter.

This was said in the press.

[zoom rader]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

And why is that?

Why would PNM ppl think this way?

[Redman]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

And why is that?

Why would PNM ppl think this way?

Well politics,opinions, facts as they are interpreted.
Only an idiot would think its only PNM/UNC /black white red people that think in any way.

You are entitled to argue a case in court.
The people you are going up against have their view.
The court decides..

It is the decision that creates the law-via the ruling by the Judge.
Not what the AG feels-or the PM.

So isnt the law now clearer with the Sat ruling??

[ek4ever]

Please let this go to the Privy Council so that they could tell arse wari to fcuk off and go back in the duncy corner

[88sins]

Please let this go to the Privy Council so that they could tell arse wari to fcuk off and go back in the duncy corner

I seriously doubt that would happen, due to time constraints and the character in question. He don't like public embarrassment, and to lose via privy council ruling would be rather embarrassing.

[zoom rader]

Please let this go to the Privy Council so that they could tell arse wari to fcuk off and go back in the duncy corner

I seriously doubt that would happen, due to time constraints and the character in question. He don't like public embarrassment, and to lose via privy council ruling would be rather embarrassing.

He does not care, its not his money spending .

But the appeal court will have to be very carful as they will look like dummies if it gets to the privy council and they up keep the ruling

[zoom rader]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

And why is that?

Why would PNM ppl think this way?

Well politics,opinions, facts as they are interpreted.
Only an idiot would think its only PNM/UNC /black white red people that think in any way.

You are entitled to argue a case in court.
The people you are going up against have their view.
The court decides..

It is the decision that creates the law-via the ruling by the Judge.
Not what the AG feels-or the PM.

So isnt the law now clearer with the Sat ruling??

Law is only clear to non PNM ppl,

The rest don't understand law and order, the comments on FB upholds his

[hydroep]

[De Dragon]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

And why is that?

Why would PNM ppl think this way?

Well politics,opinions, facts as they are interpreted.
Only an idiot would think its only PNM/UNC /black white red people that think in any way.

You are entitled to argue a case in court.
The people you are going up against have their view.
The court decides..

It is the decision that creates the law-via the ruling by the Judge.
Not what the AG feels-or the PM.

So isnt the law now clearer with the Sat ruling??

A judgement in the PC upholding a lower court's ruling does not change the law That can only be done by Parliament. Nice try to justify the expense of grasping at straws though.

[sMASH]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

And why is that?

Why would PNM ppl think this way?

Well politics,opinions, facts as they are interpreted.
Only an idiot would think its only PNM/UNC /black white red people that think in any way.

You are entitled to argue a case in court.
The people you are going up against have their view.
The court decides..

It is the decision that creates the law-via the ruling by the Judge.
Not what the AG feels-or the PM.

So isnt the law now clearer with the Sat ruling??

A judgement in the PC upholding a lower court's ruling does not change the law That can only be done by Parliament. Nice try to justify the expense of grasping at straws though.

Is only pnm people thinking that way, eh.
Why?
Cause the judge is an Indian.
The defendant was an Indian.
The defendant stood up to afros for his followers.
The defendant established some of the best regarded institutions in the country.


Things will only change when PNM strongholds gets active leaders lifting up their followers the same.

Instead they have Marlene and Burke.


And as that is how it is, PNM areas will continue to run red... And the pnmites will remain green with envy.

[Redman]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

And why is that?

Why would PNM ppl think this way?

Well politics,opinions, facts as they are interpreted.
Only an idiot would think its only PNM/UNC /black white red people that think in any way.

You are entitled to argue a case in court.
The people you are going up against have their view.
The court decides..

It is the decision that creates the law-via the ruling by the Judge.
Not what the AG feels-or the PM.

So isnt the law now clearer with the Sat ruling??

A judgement in the PC upholding a lower court's ruling does not change the law That can only be done by Parliament. Nice try to justify the expense of grasping at straws though.

Common Law.
Common Law.
Common Law.

A common law system is the system of jurisprudence that is based on the doctrine of judicial precedent, the principle under which the lower courts must follow the decisions of the higher courts, rather than on statutory laws.

Therefore a decision by a magistrates court is subject to challenge.

The AG stated that that was the rational for the appeal-to settle the law.

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/03/14/ag-27- ... aws-in-tt/

Al-Rawi replied, “There are 27 laws in TT that discriminate against what some of the rest of the world deems discrimination.”

He added the Sexual Offences Act is one of those laws.

Al-Rawi observed, “ That has been construed in a different manner by Justice Rampersad in the Jason Jones matter.”

He said the Government has “appealed the decision so that the Privy Council can ultimately guide us on what the law is.”

With the issue eliciting a lot of polar views, Al-Rawi said, “We don’t propose in so far that there is a flux in this equation right now to be pulling at this end of the tapestry.”

He explained that whatever the final pronouncement was, it would “become a landmark decision that affects other laws.” As a policy, Al-Rawi said Government will abide by the Constitution which guarantees equality of treatment.

[De Dragon]

I predict some may try to discredit the Judge now.....

Start already, some comments from fb:

"The UNC judge. I was expecting that."

"All his rulings go one way irrespective."

"When will they moved these case from this judge..this judge is a Unc..."

"His rulings always benefits his own people, nothing new here."

"The state will lose every thing that goes before this judge."

All of this would be said regardless of how he ruled.

Cant get away from that.

And why is that?

Why would PNM ppl think this way?

Well politics,opinions, facts as they are interpreted.
Only an idiot would think its only PNM/UNC /black white red people that think in any way.

You are entitled to argue a case in court.
The people you are going up against have their view.
The court decides..

It is the decision that creates the law-via the ruling by the Judge.
Not what the AG feels-or the PM.

So isnt the law now clearer with the Sat ruling??

A judgement in the PC upholding a lower court's ruling does not change the law That can only be done by Parliament. Nice try to justify the expense of grasping at straws though.

Common Law.
Common Law.
Common Law.

A common law system is the system of jurisprudence that is based on the doctrine of judicial precedent, the principle under which the lower courts must follow the decisions of the higher courts, rather than on statutory laws.

Therefore a decision by a magistrates court is subject to challenge.

The AG stated that that was the rational for the appeal-to settle the law.

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/03/14/ag-27- ... aws-in-tt/

Al-Rawi replied, “There are 27 laws in TT that discriminate against what some of the rest of the world deems discrimination.”

He added the Sexual Offences Act is one of those laws.

Al-Rawi observed, “ That has been construed in a different manner by Justice Rampersad in the Jason Jones matter.”

He said the Government has “appealed the decision so that the Privy Council can ultimately guide us on what the law is.”

With the issue eliciting a lot of polar views, Al-Rawi said, “We don’t propose in so far that there is a flux in this equation right now to be pulling at this end of the tapestry.”

He explained that whatever the final pronouncement was, it would “become a landmark decision that affects other laws.” As a policy, Al-Rawi said Government will abide by the Constitution which guarantees equality of treatment.

Fackery. If the law has been shown to be inadequate, it can be amended and rolled back out via Parliament. What Fackstick Arse-Wari is saying is that the law is sheit, we know it is sheit, but we'll still grease our friends hands and bamsee so that the PC can say it is sheit.
The PC cannot make anyone change a law.