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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby sMASH » September 13th, 2019, 9:59 am

y i not so hung up on the amount, is cause inshan loaded with cash, it would not matter. and that when u pay money, ur supposed to get sumting in return. when u pay ttasa, what u get in return? a piece of paper? it have no law saying that in order to race ur car, u hadda pay ttasa first.


and if u come with, 'ttasa is the governing body' then what does ttasa do if u race or stunt and DONT pay them? send thier goons? their padnahs? the laws dont recognize 'goons' or 'padnahs'

ttasa move like the men controlling a block, and have no clue what safety is, besides what they see other people do.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby sMASH » September 13th, 2019, 10:07 am

if ttasa is the governing body for racing, then mk promotions is the governing body for car show.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby VexXx Dogg » September 13th, 2019, 10:09 am

TurboSingh12 wrote:First time Inshan make sense in a video.


This.
It's a private event, no? Kinda like a carshow vibe?
It's not a 'formal/sanctioned' event in the motorsport calendar, is it?

TTASA have authority over car shows too?

I doh care either way.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby SR » September 13th, 2019, 10:16 am

Wow reel uninformed comments in here yes




But anyways

Awaits ttasa to brace car show promoters for having drift didplays at thier events....

And there is no governing body for car shows just small.medium and big promoters

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby teems1 » September 13th, 2019, 10:17 am

sMASH wrote:y i not so hung up on the amount, is cause inshan loaded with cash, it would not matter. and that when u pay money, ur supposed to get sumting in return. when u pay ttasa, what u get in return? a piece of paper? it have no law saying that in order to race ur car, u hadda pay ttasa first.


and if u come with, 'ttasa is the governing body' then what does ttasa do if u race or stunt and DONT pay them? send thier goons? their padnahs? the laws dont recognize 'goons' or 'padnahs'

ttasa move like the men controlling a block, and have no clue what safety is, besides what they see other people do.


A person's financial status should not dictate the amount of money they are to be charged.

He should just come forth and say this is what he is being asked to pay, this is the service he will receive for it, and in his opinion it is not worth it. If he has a valid argument then the public's opinion will sway or vice versa.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby sMASH » September 13th, 2019, 10:21 am

if is 5 dollars, 5 thousand or 5 million, inshan coudl pay it. the amount is not the problem.

the problem is, what he would be getting in return....

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby teems1 » September 13th, 2019, 10:26 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
TurboSingh12 wrote:First time Inshan make sense in a video.


This.
It's a private event, no? Kinda like a carshow vibe?
It's not a 'formal/sanctioned' event in the motorsport calendar, is it?

TTASA have authority over car shows too?

I doh care either way.


A private event means it's invite only. Any member of John Public can purchase a ticket and attend the event. Once you start including the public and earning revenue, the rules and regulations creep in.

Once you have powerful vehicles moving at high speed in the vicinity of crowds of spectators you have many variables to factor in with respect to safety. Things maybe the TTASA are more versed in when compared to TTPS.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby teems1 » September 13th, 2019, 10:28 am

sMASH wrote:if is 5 dollars, 5 thousand or 5 million, inshan coudl pay it. the amount is not the problem.

the problem is, what he would be getting in return....


Well why doesn't he come forward and state what the amount is, and what he gets in return?

Until then this all boils down to free marketing for his event.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby sMASH » September 13th, 2019, 10:29 am

so the ttasa letter was a flier?

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby maj. tom » September 13th, 2019, 10:34 am

Ok to hold such an event i assume you would need permission from the Police Commissioner. Because it involves open access to the public. The CoP would then have to refer to the authority in motor sports in TT right, which enforces the regulations of the FIA who is the world authority on motor sports.

Let's try another perspective using horse racing. Can you have an open to the public horse racing event on your private property without permission of the CoP and the authority of the TTRA? Can you? When accidents do occur who everyone is going to point the finger at? Seems like we does fight down ourselves to remain 3rd world.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby VexXx Dogg » September 13th, 2019, 10:43 am

teems1 wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:
TurboSingh12 wrote:First time Inshan make sense in a video.


This.
It's a private event, no? Kinda like a carshow vibe?
It's not a 'formal/sanctioned' event in the motorsport calendar, is it?

TTASA have authority over car shows too?

I doh care either way.


A private event means it's invite only. Any member of John Public can purchase a ticket and attend the event. Once you start including the public and earning revenue, the rules and regulations creep in.

Once you have powerful vehicles moving at high speed in the vicinity of crowds of spectators you have many variables to factor in with respect to safety. Things maybe the TTASA are more versed in when compared to TTPS.


They eh charging for safetey inspection, is a sanctioning fee was mentioned in the vid, not so?
Again, I eh care either way because I eh have racecar and I don't go to these things. I just like to chook jepnest on the internet

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby teems1 » September 13th, 2019, 10:49 am

maj. tom wrote:Ok to hold such an event i assume you would need permission from the Police Commissioner. Because it involves open access to the public. The CoP would then have to refer to the authority in motor sports in TT right, which enforces the regulations of the FIA who is the world authority on motor sports.

Let's try another perspective using horse racing. Can you have an open to the public horse racing event on your private property without permission of the CoP and the authority of the TTRA? Can you? When accidents do occur who everyone is going to point the finger at? Seems like we does fight down ourselves to remain 3rd world.


I'm not seeing TTRA on this list https://www.msya.gov.tt/divisions/sport/organisations/ngbs/

Their website is straight out of geocities from the late 90's....

http://www.ttra.net/

I'm seeing something for Equestrian events though.

Either way it depends on the complexity/dangers of the sport.

If you were having a small goal competition, I doubt you would have to involve the TTFF etc.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby sMASH » September 13th, 2019, 11:23 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
teems1 wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:
TurboSingh12 wrote:First time Inshan make sense in a video.


This.
It's a private event, no? Kinda like a carshow vibe?
It's not a 'formal/sanctioned' event in the motorsport calendar, is it?

TTASA have authority over car shows too?

I doh care either way.


A private event means it's invite only. Any member of John Public can purchase a ticket and attend the event. Once you start including the public and earning revenue, the rules and regulations creep in.

Once you have powerful vehicles moving at high speed in the vicinity of crowds of spectators you have many variables to factor in with respect to safety. Things maybe the TTASA are more versed in when compared to TTPS.


They eh charging for safetey inspection, is a sanctioning fee was mentioned in the vid, not so?
Again, I eh care either way because I eh have racecar and I don't go to these things. I just like to chook jepnest on the internet

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headlines tomorrow : ttasa does not sanction inshan hospital carpark burn out seshan.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby 88sins » September 13th, 2019, 11:47 am

teems1 wrote:How much is the fee though?

100? 1,000? 10,000? Has no one else ever had to go through this process and can give a estimate of how much they paid? If his grouse is about money he should state the figure.

Having rules and regulations isn't necessarily a bad thing.

There's a reason town and country has to come inspect your home even though it's your land. There's a reason fire services have to declare a commercial building fit for public use etc.


Also after paying the fee, exactly what happens. A TTASA group will visit the site to ensure everything is up to standard?

If TTASA's demands are unreasonably high, is it possible to just hold it as an unsanctioned event?


Here's the difference
T&C is a state entity owned, operated and authorized by the GoRTT that manages the development of communities across the islands, whereas in contrast TTASA is to the best of my knowledge a privately run organization.

yes, can be held as an unsanctioned event, with zero chance of TTASA having any negative impact on it. it's a privately run event that's open to the public on private property, and once all proper measures to ensure the safety of patrons and participants are implemented and maintained, as well as once all relevant authorizations and approvals that may be are acquired from the relevant state bodies (TTPS, TTFS, LO, T&C, etc) are had, all TTASA can and will do is grumble.

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Re: Inshan & ttasa Drifting Controvesy ? ...

Postby zoom rader » September 13th, 2019, 11:51 am

No comment on this chead

A bunch of old pot belly injuns with Iron maden T-shirts on and one that thinks hes a real madinkga

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby teems1 » September 13th, 2019, 12:15 pm

88sins wrote:
teems1 wrote:How much is the fee though?

100? 1,000? 10,000? Has no one else ever had to go through this process and can give a estimate of how much they paid? If his grouse is about money he should state the figure.

Having rules and regulations isn't necessarily a bad thing.

There's a reason town and country has to come inspect your home even though it's your land. There's a reason fire services have to declare a commercial building fit for public use etc.


Also after paying the fee, exactly what happens. A TTASA group will visit the site to ensure everything is up to standard?

If TTASA's demands are unreasonably high, is it possible to just hold it as an unsanctioned event?


Here's the difference
T&C is a state entity owned, operated and authorized by the GoRTT that manages the development of communities across the islands, whereas in contrast TTASA is to the best of my knowledge a privately run organization.

yes, can be held as an unsanctioned event, with zero chance of TTASA having any negative impact on it. it's a privately run event that's open to the public on private property, and once all proper measures to ensure the safety of patrons and participants are implemented and maintained, as well as once all relevant authorizations and approvals that may be are acquired from the relevant state bodies (TTPS, TTFS, LO, T&C, etc) are had, all TTASA can and will do is grumble.


Won't you end up in a state of a dog chasing it's tail?

It is unreasonable for the TTPS/TTFS to have all the knowledge and expertise with respect to safety for an autosport event.

Which is why they would consult the TTASA as they are registered with the Ministry of Sport and as such regarded the subject matter experts as they are FiA certified.

So either way it appears that the TTASA may get involved.

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Re: Inshan & ttasa Drifting Controvesy ? ...

Postby shady23 » September 13th, 2019, 12:39 pm

Lmao, Inshan doesn't give a sheit about motorsports. He is a businessman. All he is concerned about is making money off the free land he was given for religious purposes. Pretty sure none of those events are being done free of charge.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby 88sins » September 13th, 2019, 1:02 pm

teems1 wrote:Won't you end up in a state of a dog chasing it's tail?

It is unreasonable for the TTPS/TTFS to have all the knowledge and expertise with respect to safety for an autosport event.

Which is why they would consult the TTASA as they are registered with the Ministry of Sport and as such regarded the subject matter experts as they are FiA certified.

So either way it appears that the TTASA may get involved.


yes, TTASA will be involved, by the relevant state authorities seeking them out for their expertise on what should be implemented, and applying that to inshan's location. But Inshan won't be paying the relevant sate authorities for that, and (I eh 100% certain, so doh take dis as gospel) I don't believe TTASA can bill the various state agencies for seeking out their expertise on motorsports.

& I strongly suspect THAT is what TTASA have a problem with. Nothing going directly to them from inshan or anywhere else related to this event.

We go hadda wait & see how dis roti unwrap

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Postby mragoobir » September 13th, 2019, 1:02 pm

Sheron and Nick had to pay for them to drift in their funerals??

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Re: Inshan & ttasa Drifting Controvesy ? ...

Postby pete » September 13th, 2019, 3:14 pm

A different approach would've had a different result.

It would have been better for them to maybe say:
We have learned that you are interested in having this event. We have a team experienced in hosting these events and what safety elements need to be implemented for them to run safely. We would like to offer their expertise as well as officially sanction the event.
The fee for sanctioning is $X
With that fee we will perform tasks X, Y and Z
We will provide X number of people to ensure this is run safely.

Without our support we will publicly state that this event is not being done with the guidance of our organisation and will not be able to confirm the safety of competitors or spectators. We will also accept no responsibilities for injuries sustained in the running of the event.

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Postby vaiostation » September 13th, 2019, 3:29 pm

^^^while I agree, Inshan is a guy that likes to make a problem out of almost anything. He's a guy trying to show that he's more relevant than he actually is. Years ago on Inshan tv show, big man buy a bag of peewah from someone on de street, and then Inshan proceeded to insult de man because he thought de price was to expensive. I does wonder if he think Allah does approve of his stink behavior, once it not in de mosque...

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Re: Drifting Controvesy ? ...

Postby pete » September 13th, 2019, 3:37 pm

Monk BANzai wrote:wait..the SAME ground the gubment gave him for "religious purposes"? that same grong he does rent out stalls at $15k a pop per spot? same one he install a pool in? i asking for a friend eh...cuz i eh know..

that SAME facility that he hosting a event o make money on?

I wonder how much Five Islands n dem does pay TTASA for KArting? cuz when we go dong dey is serious competition inno!!!

Why I ought to....


How is this different to say.. an organisation being given a lease for land to be used for the development of their sport and then renting it out for a fete to raise funds?

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Postby MG Man » September 13th, 2019, 3:53 pm

ent de lease does hadda be paid every month? the barah ground leased or geeway?

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Postby pete » September 13th, 2019, 4:03 pm

Land might have been given away. Was the paving done free too?

Note, I'm not saying there's something wrong with doing things to raise funds, be it throw a fete, have a drift event etc. Developing any site is expensive so if they do one thing to generate income to continue the development then go ahead.

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby screwbash » September 13th, 2019, 4:05 pm

DTAC wrote:Say what you want about the man, those burgers are boss!!

everything too salty. an only muslim owned companies product used example only sm jaleel products sold there to drink. dam racist.

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Postby eliteauto » September 13th, 2019, 4:20 pm

a Muslim owned and operated facility, only uses products from Muslim owned companies where possible, well I for one am aghast at this shocking development, clearly racism

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Postby zoom rader » September 13th, 2019, 4:44 pm

eliteauto wrote:a Muslim owned and operated facility, only uses products from Muslim owned companies where possible, well I for one am aghast at this shocking development, clearly racism
I don't see nothing wrong with that. 1% do it all the time

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby vaiostation » September 13th, 2019, 4:47 pm

screwbash wrote:
DTAC wrote:Say what you want about the man, those burgers are boss!!

everything too salty. an only muslim owned companies product used example only sm jaleel products sold there to drink. dam racist.

Syrian, local muslims, chinese, support dey own, and doh mix with outsiders.
Is mostly Christians and Hindus does buy willy nilly...

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby zoom rader » September 13th, 2019, 4:48 pm

screwbash wrote:
DTAC wrote:Say what you want about the man, those burgers are boss!!

everything too salty. an only muslim owned companies product used example only sm jaleel products sold there to drink. dam racist.
Dat come like sunshine don't want jumbo to eat ah food

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Re: Inshan behaving like an fool as usual

Postby zoom rader » September 13th, 2019, 4:54 pm

vaiostation wrote:
screwbash wrote:
DTAC wrote:Say what you want about the man, those burgers are boss!!

everything too salty. an only muslim owned companies product used example only sm jaleel products sold there to drink. dam racist.

Syrian, local muslims, chinese, support dey own, and doh mix with outsiders.
Is mostly Christians and Hindus does buy willy nilly...
I don't know where Eleitauto living

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