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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 37065 cases, 1026 deaths, 5783 active, 30265 recovered in T&T

Postby daring dragoon » July 24th, 2021, 4:34 pm

hover11 wrote:We opening back up with the same number of cases we Began the lockdown with....what you expected ... people are becoming complacent
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Postby ST Auto » July 24th, 2021, 4:36 pm

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Postby adnj » July 24th, 2021, 4:51 pm

Today I reviewed Covid infection and predictor models for Trinidad:

- No significant change in the number of daily Covid infections or Covid-related deaths for the next 90 days.

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Postby Mmoney607 » July 24th, 2021, 4:56 pm

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Time to open up the beaches!

Wait no sorry, wrong script.

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Postby elec2020 » July 24th, 2021, 5:00 pm

and delta supposedly not here yet. When that reach we might have 500 a day.

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Postby redmanjp » July 24th, 2021, 5:15 pm

elec2020 wrote:and delta supposedly not here yet. When that reach we might have 500 a day.


Daz joke. Gamma gave us 700+ before it peaked. Delta might give us 1000+ if a majority of the population is still unvaccinated when it hits. Why they don't use the GPS bracelets on the unvaccinated minors who are allowed to come in to the country and go home.

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Postby paid_influencer » July 24th, 2021, 6:27 pm

adnj wrote:Today I reviewed Covid infection and predictor models for Trinidad:

- No significant change in the number of daily Covid infections or Covid-related deaths for the next 90 days.


what happens after 90 days tho

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Postby Kenjo » July 24th, 2021, 6:47 pm

Did the anil Soogrim guy have complications due to the vaccine that caused his death ?

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Postby redmanjp » July 24th, 2021, 7:06 pm

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adnj wrote:Today I reviewed Covid infection and predictor models for Trinidad:

- No significant change in the number of daily Covid infections or Covid-related deaths for the next 90 days.


what happens after 90 days tho


Hopefully a lot of ppl would be vaccinated by that time so it may go down. Although if delta is here by then it could cause another wave which requires more to get vaccinated

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Postby Mmoney607 » July 24th, 2021, 7:06 pm

With over 300 active cases in tobago, shouldnt tobago be under full lockdown based on historical information?

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Postby PariaMan » July 24th, 2021, 7:17 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:With over 300 active cases in tobago, shouldnt tobago be under full lockdown based on historical information?
Difference is that we have a vaccine and quite a bit of the vulnerable already vaccinated

The equation has changed

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Postby sMASH » July 24th, 2021, 7:55 pm

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make of it what u will, the first is vaccine uptake and the other two are infections and death.

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Postby redmanjp » July 24th, 2021, 8:00 pm

kinda need some bigger pics than that

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Postby redmanjp » July 24th, 2021, 8:02 pm

PariaMan wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:With over 300 active cases in tobago, shouldnt tobago be under full lockdown based on historical information?
Difference is that we have a vaccine and quite a bit of the vulnerable already vaccinated

The equation has changed


u sure about that? cuz we had a 15 deaths in a 24 hr period just a couple days ago.

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Postby PariaMan » July 24th, 2021, 8:06 pm

redmanjp wrote:
PariaMan wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:With over 300 active cases in tobago, shouldnt tobago be under full lockdown based on historical information?
Difference is that we have a vaccine and quite a bit of the vulnerable already vaccinated

The equation has changed


u sure about that? cuz we had a 15 deaths in a 24 hr period just a couple days ago.
It takes 2 week after your second shot to get maximum protection

Death lags cases

Already we see a flattening of the curve. We are not getting less but we are not getting more

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Postby redmanjp » July 24th, 2021, 8:17 pm

PariaMan wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
PariaMan wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:With over 300 active cases in tobago, shouldnt tobago be under full lockdown based on historical information?
Difference is that we have a vaccine and quite a bit of the vulnerable already vaccinated

The equation has changed


u sure about that? cuz we had a 15 deaths in a 24 hr period just a couple days ago.
It takes 2 week after your second shot to get maximum protection

Death lags cases

Already we see a flattening of the curve. We are not getting less but we are not getting more


that flattening is more due to the lockdown, not the vaccine. having less than 25% fully vaccinated not going to do anything much, already we may be getting an increase with 300 cases today.

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Postby paid_influencer » July 24th, 2021, 8:36 pm

redmanjp wrote:kinda need some bigger pics than that


I think he's referencing the anti-vaxxer theory that the deaths and infections are coming from the vaxx (that the govt injecting you with "covid"). Anti-vaxxers are pointing out that for a year we had no vaxx and cases were in single digits and now we get vaxx all hell break loose.

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Postby sMASH » July 24th, 2021, 8:58 pm

well ur seeing an over all trend down. a lot of fluctuations can be caused by a myriad of factors, but they are all generally going down.

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Postby adnj » July 24th, 2021, 9:26 pm

sMASH wrote:well ur seeing an over all trend down. a lot of fluctuations can be caused by a myriad of factors, but they are all generally going down.
That's not what I see.

The two countries with the lowest vaccine uptake (Sri Lanka, Trinidad) have a somewhat proportional death:infection relationship.

The two countries with the highest vaccine uptake have a death:infection ratio that is ~15% of the first.

Sri Lanka and Trinidad are heavy Sinopharm
Sweden and the UK are heavy AstraZeneca
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Postby PariaMan » July 24th, 2021, 9:28 pm

redmanjp wrote:
PariaMan wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
PariaMan wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:With over 300 active cases in tobago, shouldnt tobago be under full lockdown based on historical information?
Difference is that we have a vaccine and quite a bit of the vulnerable already vaccinated

The equation has changed


u sure about that? cuz we had a 15 deaths in a 24 hr period just a couple days ago.
It takes 2 week after your second shot to get maximum protection

Death lags cases

Already we see a flattening of the curve. We are not getting less but we are not getting more


that flattening is more due to the lockdown, not the vaccine. having less than 25% fully vaccinated not going to do anything much, already we may be getting an increase with 300 cases today.
Who is to say what's pulling it down . Based on other country's vaccines makes a difference

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Postby sMASH » July 24th, 2021, 9:54 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:well ur seeing an over all trend down. a lot of fluctuations can be caused by a myriad of factors, but they are all generally going down.
That's not what I see.

The two countries with the lowest vaccine uptake (Sri Lanka, Trinidad) have a somewhat proportional death:infection relationship.

The two countries with the highest vaccine uptake have a death:infection ratio that is ~15% of the first.

Sri Lanka and Trinidad are heavy Sinopharm
Sweden and the UK are heavy AstraZeneca

i giving them a week again to see how UK performing with the freedom.

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Postby Dohplaydat » July 25th, 2021, 5:33 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:well ur seeing an over all trend down. a lot of fluctuations can be caused by a myriad of factors, but they are all generally going down.
That's not what I see.

The two countries with the lowest vaccine uptake (Sri Lanka, Trinidad) have a somewhat proportional death:infection relationship.

The two countries with the highest vaccine uptake have a death:infection ratio that is ~15% of the first.

Sri Lanka and Trinidad are heavy Sinopharm
Sweden and the UK are heavy AstraZeneca

i giving them a week again to see how UK performing with the freedom.


UK is trending downward, Trinidad will soon be trending upward. The r naught is now over 1.
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Postby redmanjp » July 25th, 2021, 4:28 pm

viral load in person infected with delta >1000 times original strain

https://virological.org/t/viral-infection-and-transmission-in-a-large-well-traced-outbreak-caused-by-the-delta-sars-cov-2-variant/724



this explains why it's much more transmissible, and also why it causes more severe illness then previous strains

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Postby DMan7 » July 25th, 2021, 4:59 pm

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Postby paid_influencer » July 25th, 2021, 5:08 pm

189 cases/day is the new normal


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Postby adnj » July 26th, 2021, 9:29 am

How the Delta variant upends assumptions about the coronavirus

"The biggest risk to the world at the moment is simply Delta," said microbiologist Sharon Peacock, who runs Britain's efforts to sequence the genomes of coronavirus variants, calling it the "fittest and fastest variant yet."

Viruses constantly evolve through mutation, with new variants arising. Sometimes these are more dangerous than the original.

Until there is more data on Delta variant transmission, disease experts say that masks, social distancing and other measures set aside in countries with broad vaccination campaigns may again be needed.

Public Health England said on Friday that out of a total of 3,692 people hospitalized in Britain with the Delta variant, 58.3% were unvaccinated and 22.8% were fully vaccinated.

In Singapore, where Delta is the most common variant, government officials reported on Friday that three quarters of its coronavirus cases occurred among vaccinated individuals, though none were severely ill.

Israeli health officials have said 60% of current hospitalized COVID cases are in vaccinated people. Most of them are age 60 or older and often have underlying health problems.

In the United States, which has experienced more COVID-19 cases and deaths than any other country, the Delta variant represents about 83% of new infections. So far, unvaccinated people represent nearly 97% of severe cases.

"There is always the illusion that there is a magic bullet that will solve all our problems. The coronavirus is teaching us a lesson," said Nadav Davidovitch, director of Ben Gurion University's school of public health in Israel.

'TEACHING US A LESSON'

The Pfizer Inc (PFE.N)/BioNTech vaccine, one of the most effective against COVID-19 so far, appeared only 41% effective at halting symptomatic infections in Israel over the past month as the Delta variant spread, according to Israeli government data. Israeli experts said this information requires more analysis before conclusions can be drawn.

"Protection for the individual is very strong; protection for infecting others is significantly lower," Davidovitch said.

A study in China found that people infected with the Delta variant carry 1,000 times more virus in their noses compared with the ancestral Wuhan strain first identified in that Chinese city in 2019.

"You may actually excrete more virus and that's why it's more transmissible. That's still being investigated," Peacock said.

Virologist Shane Crotty of the La Jolla Institute for Immunology in San Diego noted that Delta is 50% more infectious than the Alpha variant first detected in the UK.

"It's outcompeting all other viruses because it just spreads so much more efficiently," Crotty added.

Genomics expert Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California, noted that Delta infections have a shorter incubation period and a far higher amount of viral particles.

"That's why the vaccines are going to be challenged. The people who are vaccinated have got to be especially careful. This is a tough one," Topol said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how ... 021-07-26/


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