COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Soul Collector]

Imagine being vaccinated and still scared, how that making any sense?

Since when anything covid related making any sense?

[sMASH]

However vaccinated can spread it as well....

Quick Question: Why are the vaccinated worried about the unvaccinated? If you're vaccinated good for you, you are protected isn't that your main concern, seems a social divide is brewing between that of the vaccinated and unvaccinated

Because you're more likely to spread it and thus putting people who can't take the vaccine (due to medical issues) at risk.

They are less likely to spread it

Geezus how many times MUST this be repeated!??? dont people listen! firetruck meng!

how the f* that does work so? how u could have the virus and not spread it???

vaccineated people will be the WORST spreaders, cause they will be asymptomatic and go round EVERYBODY like normal, cause every body pushing the false narrative that if u dont have symptoms u dont have covid.
u may be fine, but that does not mean u dont have covid. and u need to explain how u can have the virus and NOT be sheddding it.

[i_code_and_stuff]

However vaccinated can spread it as well....

Quick Question: Why are the vaccinated worried about the unvaccinated? If you're vaccinated good for you, you are protected isn't that your main concern, seems a social divide is brewing between that of the vaccinated and unvaccinated

Because you're more likely to spread it and thus putting people who can't take the vaccine (due to medical issues) at risk.

They are less likely to spread it

Geezus how many times MUST this be repeated!??? dont people listen! firetruck meng!

how the f* that does work so? how u could have the virus and not spread it???

vaccineated people will be the WORST spreaders, cause they will be asymptomatic and go round EVERYBODY like normal, cause every body pushing the false narrative that if u dont have symptoms u dont have covid.
u may be fine, but that does not mean u dont have covid. and u need to explain how u can have the virus and NOT be sheddding it.

masks and behavioral habits aside, the reason a vaccinated person is less likely to spread is due to the lower viral load in their body. The more effective the vaccine is at reducing that viral load, the less likely that you will spread it (masked or not) if you do get infected. also it is an absolute stretch to assume vaccinated people will "go around everybody like normal", but it ultimately does not matter anyway because the average trini is already doing that

[Dohplaydat]

Let's see what happens in the UK, all restrictions have been lifted

[timothymcdavid]

masks and behavioral habits aside, the reason a vaccinated person is less likely to spread is due to the lower viral load in their body. The more effective the vaccine is at reducing that viral load, the less likely that you will spread it (masked or not) if you do get infected. also it is an absolute stretch to assume vaccinated people will "go around everybody like normal", but it ultimately does not matter anyway because the average trini is already doing that

Tell them man ... jeez it is frightening seeing some of the ignorant $h!7 you seeing online ... image people calling being vaccinated against covid19 is the mark of the beast what kinda BS is that!?!?!?!.

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WORLD NEWS

UK Covid restrictions could return after three weeks, scientists warn

Members of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) have warned the UK government to be prepared

The UK reported 44,104 new Covid-19 cases and 73 related deaths on Wednesday, taking the total infections over 5.56 million.(AFP)

Several coronavirus restrictions could be reintroduced in England after three weeks if hospital admission rises above expected levels, scientists advising the government on the pandemic have reportedly warned. Members of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) have warned the government to be prepared to reimpose restrictions amid record hospitalisations in nearly five months, reported inews.

According to NHS England, 752 hospital admissions were reported on July 19, the day virtually all restrictions were removed in Britain. While hospitalisations are still well below the peak of the second Covid wave, the exponential rise in infections largely driven by the highly contagious Delta variant is pushing the admissions towards worrying levels.
The UK reported 44,104 new Covid-19 cases and 73 related deaths on Wednesday, taking the total infections over 5.56 million. Earlier this week, chief medical officer Chris Whitty said the hospitalisations were doubling roughly every three weeks. During a webinar hosted by the Science Museum, Whitty said that the country was not “out of the woods” by any means and the hospitalisations could escalate in the next couple of months.

Let's see what happens in the UK, all restrictions have been lifted

[sMASH]

masks and behavioral habits aside, the reason a vaccinated person is less likely to spread is due to the lower viral load in their body. The more effective the vaccine is at reducing that viral load, the less likely that you will spread it (masked or not) if you do get infected. also it is an absolute stretch to assume vaccinated people will "go around everybody like normal", but it ultimately does not matter anyway because the average trini is already doing that

Tell them man ... jeez it is frightening seeing some of the ignorant $h!7 you seeing online ... image people calling being vaccinated against covid19 is the mark of the beast what kinda BS is that!?!?!?!.

low load enough to go round those that cant take the vaccine, that they will not be infected?

[Dohplaydat]

WORLD NEWS

UK Covid restrictions could return after three weeks, scientists warn

Members of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) have warned the UK government to be prepared

The UK reported 44,104 new Covid-19 cases and 73 related deaths on Wednesday, taking the total infections over 5.56 million.(AFP)

Several coronavirus restrictions could be reintroduced in England after three weeks if hospital admission rises above expected levels, scientists advising the government on the pandemic have reportedly warned. Members of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) have warned the government to be prepared to reimpose restrictions amid record hospitalisations in nearly five months, reported inews.

According to NHS England, 752 hospital admissions were reported on July 19, the day virtually all restrictions were removed in Britain. While hospitalisations are still well below the peak of the second Covid wave, the exponential rise in infections largely driven by the highly contagious Delta variant is pushing the admissions towards worrying levels.
The UK reported 44,104 new Covid-19 cases and 73 related deaths on Wednesday, taking the total infections over 5.56 million. Earlier this week, chief medical officer Chris Whitty said the hospitalisations were doubling roughly every three weeks. During a webinar hosted by the Science Museum, Whitty said that the country was not “out of the woods” by any means and the hospitalisations could escalate in the next couple of months.

Let's see what happens in the UK, all restrictions have been lifted

I doubt that, cases might be at their peak right now and they'll eventually reduce within the next 2 weeks.

Their covid deaths right now are equivalent to us having 1.5 a day. At the last peak (in deaths) where mostly everyone was unvaccinated deaths were almost 25x the current rate (which is like us having 25-30 a day).

UK isn't likely to pull back on Freedom day now.

[Dohplaydat]

masks and behavioral habits aside, the reason a vaccinated person is less likely to spread is due to the lower viral load in their body. The more effective the vaccine is at reducing that viral load, the less likely that you will spread it (masked or not) if you do get infected. also it is an absolute stretch to assume vaccinated people will "go around everybody like normal", but it ultimately does not matter anyway because the average trini is already doing that

Tell them man ... jeez it is frightening seeing some of the ignorant $h!7 you seeing online ... image people calling being vaccinated against covid19 is the mark of the beast what kinda BS is that!?!?!?!.

low load enough to go round those that cant take the vaccine, that they will not be infected?

Depends on the vaccine and variant.

For the most infectious strain (delta) the mRNA vaccines reduced spread to unvaccinated people, and spread to other vaccinated persons was virtually nil.

Sinopharm and Sinovac, spread is very likely. AZ and J&J.....not sure, but somewhere in between.

The argument isn't a personal one IMO. We (as a species) need herd immunity and to do that everyone needs to take any vaccine that's available asap.

This will cut the probability of new strains and eventually we will be ontop of covid.

If you don't want to be vaccinated I fully support the reduction of your right to participate in society.

[paid_influencer]

any thoughts on what this could be about? The African J&J vaxx shipment might be soon?

[Dizzy28]

Every Thursday is Cabinet. This is a standard scheduled presser and could be about Covid or have no reference to it at all.

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any thoughts on what this could be about? The African J&J vaxx shipment might be soon?

[RedVEVO]

masks and behavioral habits aside, the reason a vaccinated person is less likely to spread is due to the lower viral load in their body. The more effective the vaccine is at reducing that viral load, the less likely that you will spread it (masked or not) if you do get infected. also it is an absolute stretch to assume vaccinated people will "go around everybody like normal", but it ultimately does not matter anyway because the average trini is already doing that

Tell them man ... jeez it is frightening seeing some of the ignorant $h!7 you seeing online ... image people calling being vaccinated against covid19 is the mark of the beast what kinda BS is that!?!?!?!.

low load enough to go round those that cant take the vaccine, that they will not be infected?

Depends on the vaccine and variant.

For the most infectious strain (delta) the mRNA vaccines reduced spread to unvaccinated people, and spread to other vaccinated persons was virtually nil.

Sinopharm and Sinovac, spread is very likely. AZ and J&J.....not sure, but somewhere in between.

The argument isn't a personal one IMO. We (as a species) need herd immunity and to do that everyone needs to take any vaccine that's available asap.

This will cut the probability of new strains and eventually we will be ontop of covid.

If you don't want to be vaccinated I fully support the reduction of your right to participate in society.

Vaccinate is good for herd immunity .

Lockdown for approximately 2 years .

1003 Dead

Repeat

1003 Peeps are DEAD

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

[sMASH]

masks and behavioral habits aside, the reason a vaccinated person is less likely to spread is due to the lower viral load in their body. The more effective the vaccine is at reducing that viral load, the less likely that you will spread it (masked or not) if you do get infected. also it is an absolute stretch to assume vaccinated people will "go around everybody like normal", but it ultimately does not matter anyway because the average trini is already doing that

Tell them man ... jeez it is frightening seeing some of the ignorant $h!7 you seeing online ... image people calling being vaccinated against covid19 is the mark of the beast what kinda BS is that!?!?!?!.

low load enough to go round those that cant take the vaccine, that they will not be infected?

Depends on the vaccine and variant.

For the most infectious strain (delta) the mRNA vaccines reduced spread to unvaccinated people, and spread to other vaccinated persons was virtually nil.

Sinopharm and Sinovac, spread is very likely. AZ and J&J.....not sure, but somewhere in between.

The argument isn't a personal one IMO. We (as a species) need herd immunity and to do that everyone needs to take any vaccine that's available asap.

This will cut the probability of new strains and eventually we will be ontop of covid.

If you don't want to be vaccinated I fully support the reduction of your right to participate in society.

now, that u all admit vaccinated people can, lower risk than unvaccinated but still can spread it, when u allow people to come into the country withouth quarantine cause they have vaccine, u going to bring it and what ever variant they come across.

and all the unvacinatable people u all cherishing so much and using them to brow beat the hesitant people into taking the vaccine, they gonna get take out.
they all living here with people vaccine and no vaccine. and ur vaccinated people gonna blow past customs and quarantine and import the variants.



the vaccine gonna reduce how much cases ur getting, and that repression gonna get stronger when more people get the vaccine. but that is if trinidad remains a closed system. once u allow people to import virus and variant, ur introducing a new SOURCE of it into the system, and it going to cycle up again.


dont quarrel with the vaccine hesitant, when ur govt has an open channel bringing it in.

[sMASH]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

a lesson to avoid close contact and indoor mas gatherings. u saw it for the general election, u saw it for the tobago easter boat show off, and seeing it for this SEA.

[Ben_spanna]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

a lesson to avoid close contact and indoor mas gatherings. u saw it for the general election, u saw it for the tobago easter boat show off, and seeing it for this SEA.

Because every damn thing for a trini is a party and a social event, people just need to keep to themselves or maintain their cirlce as much without overlapping other circles.
But with our culture its extremely difficult . people only listen when someone close to them suffers or dies!

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

a lesson to avoid close contact and indoor mas gatherings. u saw it for the general election, u saw it for the tobago easter boat show off, and seeing it for this SEA.

I am pretty sure the majority of the 36,000 cases we've had are not from a few super spreader events but from normal daily interaction both indoor and outdoor. You are making things up without any data.

[De Dragon]

Quick Question: Why are the vaccinated worried about the unvaccinated? If you're vaccinated good for you, you are protected isn't that your main concern, seems a social divide is brewing between that of the vaccinated and unvaccinated

Because you're more likely to spread it and thus putting people who can't take the vaccine (due to medical issues) at risk.

You guys keep answering the same questions OVER and OVER for this anti vaxxer. At some point, realize that either his short term memory sucks, or he is trolling.

[De Dragon]

Imagine being vaccinated and still scared, how that making any sense?

You seem intent on searching for something or someone to tell you that a Covid-19 vaccine will provide 100% immunity, 0 transmission risk and 0 side effects, short or long term. To this I say, good luck

[bluefete]

[adnj]

^ incorrect. Less likely = 0 chance.

No.

[sMASH]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

a lesson to avoid close contact and indoor mas gatherings. u saw it for the general election, u saw it for the tobago easter boat show off, and seeing it for this SEA.

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Because every damn thing for a trini is a party and a social event, people just need to keep to themselves or maintain their cirlce as much without overlapping other circles.
But with our culture its extremely difficult . people only listen when someone close to them suffers or dies!

yes. but when the numbers went down after the 2020 GE, ALLL that was going on and it the numbers remained low. it remained so good, taht ur boy got the confidence to show off his new boat for easter.

we can tolerate small isolated incidences of those as long as u stop massive gatherings.

and if u think that activity is detrimental, then u have to petition ur govt to cancel this 5 outdoors and itinerant food things... and their plans to resume retail. cuase that would be inline but WORSE than what u vexing for.


covid transmission is mainly dependent on 3 main factors: airflow, proximity, duration. analyse every activity according to dat and u would see what will spike and what woudl not.


jess because u see 'people' doenst mean it is automatic covid. and once u hvae that mindset, u MUST rant against the measurse ur govt is instating.
u cant have it both ways, u cant be asinine about every lil activity people doing, then welcoming what ur govt doing.

[adnj]

However vaccinated can spread it as well....

Quick Question: Why are the vaccinated worried about the unvaccinated? If you're vaccinated good for you, you are protected isn't that your main concern, seems a social divide is brewing between that of the vaccinated and unvaccinated

Because you're more likely to spread it and thus putting people who can't take the vaccine (due to medical issues) at risk.

They are less likely to spread it

Geezus how many times MUST this be repeated!??? dont people listen! firetruck meng!

this is something we believe is true, but there is no hard data to quantify it (particularly for the vaccine we are using on the island in the face of the variants).

I'm not being anti-vax. Without data it's impossible to know how much we can rely on it and how dangerous decisions like re-opening schools will be. That's why I'm hoping the administration will choose caution come September.

Here you go. From a relatively credible, well-known source:

Study: Those Vaccinated Who Get COVID Carry Less Virus


July 2, 2021 -- People who have received a COVID-19 vaccine and later become infected with the coronavirus tend to have a lower viral load according to a new study published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

That means they are likely to be less contagious than unvaccinated people and don’t transmit the virus as much to others. In addition, researchers found that vaccinated people had a shorter and milder course of COVID-19.

“Even when people get vaccinated and did get infected, they were less likely to have an illness that causes a fever,” Mark Thompson, one of the lead authors and an epidemiologist at the CDC, told The Wall Street Journal.

“There’s reason to think that even if you get infected, you have less virus to spread around and infect other people,” he said.

The research team followed 3,975 health care workers and first responders who underwent weekly testing between mid-December and mid-April. COVID-19 was detected in 204 participants, including five who were fully vaccinated and 11 who were partially vaccinated with either the Pfizer or the Moderna shots.

The fully or partially vaccinated participants had a 40% lower viral load than the unvaccinated participants, as well as a 66% lower risk of having detectable virus for more than one week. They also had a 58% lower risk of fever symptoms.

None of the vaccinated people who contracted COVID-19 were hospitalized, and they all had mild or moderate cases. They also had a shorter duration of illness, with about two fewer days spent sick in bed and six fewer days of symptoms.

Based on study results, researchers calculated that the vaccines were 91% effective at preventing infections among fully vaccinated people and 81% effective among partially vaccinated people.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19 ... less-virus

[sMASH]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

a lesson to avoid close contact and indoor mas gatherings. u saw it for the general election, u saw it for the tobago easter boat show off, and seeing it for this SEA.

I am pretty sure the majority of the 36,000 cases we've had are not from a few super spreader events but from normal daily interaction both indoor and outdoor. You are making things up without any data.

stop trolling.
i posted graphs with labels SINCE the 2020 GE. every time u had a big spike, it was after a mas gathering activity.

[i_code_and_stuff]

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i too enjoy comparing apples to oranges, and on top of that, not knowing the difference between a scientist and marketing teams/ceo

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

a lesson to avoid close contact and indoor mas gatherings. u saw it for the general election, u saw it for the tobago easter boat show off, and seeing it for this SEA.

I am pretty sure the majority of the 36,000 cases we've had are not from a few super spreader events but from normal daily interaction both indoor and outdoor. You are making things up without any data.

stop trolling.
i posted graphs with labels SINCE the 2020 GE. every time u had a big spike, it was after a mas gathering activity.

lol who put the labels there?

[redmanjp]

now, that u all admit vaccinated people can, lower risk than unvaccinated but still can spread it, when u allow people to come into the country withouth quarantine cause they have vaccine, u going to bring it and what ever variant they come across.

and all the unvacinatable people u all cherishing so much and using them to brow beat the hesitant people into taking the vaccine, they gonna get take out.
they all living here with people vaccine and no vaccine. and ur vaccinated people gonna blow past customs and quarantine and import the variants.



the vaccine gonna reduce how much cases ur getting, and that repression gonna get stronger when more people get the vaccine. but that is if trinidad remains a closed system. once u allow people to import virus and variant, ur introducing a new SOURCE of it into the system, and it going to cycle up again.


dont quarrel with the vaccine hesitant, when ur govt has an open channel bringing it in.

my recommendation a couple weeks ago was to allow fully vaccinated ppl to come in without state quarantine, but still quarantine at home. that way u don't have hundreds of ppl per day coming in and moving about, just in case we have breakthrough cases, especially of delta. even more concerning- the UNVACCINATED minors coming in with vaccinated parents who don't have to quarantine and only have to take a second PCR test, but NO HOME QUARANTINE is required prior to those results!!

so imagine a 17 yr old unvaccinated person can come in- no state or even home quarantine required. go and visit he pardner and lime with friends, the on day 3-5 take a test, then visit relatives cuz he eh see dem in months due to borders being closed. then low and behold, that test come back POSITIVE!!

[elec2020]

a sample size of 3,975 is credible? Also, (and I may be wrong in doing this as i do not know what there standard is for effectiveness, but based on the wording I assume it is the percent who did not get it compared to those who got it) but if 91% effective occurred after 16 vaccinated were infected then that would mean that about 180 individuals had the vaccine (91 per cent of 180 is about 16). If true isn't this a very skewed sample to make such definitive statements on?

[sMASH]

over 800 contracted the virus and died in 3 months

a lesson to avoid close contact and indoor mas gatherings. u saw it for the general election, u saw it for the tobago easter boat show off, and seeing it for this SEA.

I am pretty sure the majority of the 36,000 cases we've had are not from a few super spreader events but from normal daily interaction both indoor and outdoor. You are making things up without any data.

stop trolling.
i posted graphs with labels SINCE the 2020 GE. every time u had a big spike, it was after a mas gathering activity.

lol who put the labels there?

me. the labels is just the dates of the events. the last one was the only one i didnt label the date and just put the result. didnt even post the site and bars, cause every body done accustomed to how this SoE spike is. it woudl just be repetition.

[Dizzy28]

15 deaths,