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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 94213 (+579) cases, 2973 (+22) deaths, 15436 active, 75804 recovered in T&T

Postby adnj » January 20th, 2022, 7:08 pm

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adnj wrote:~12% of deaths were vaccinated.


isn't it 5.8%?
That is the current ratio; only from January 3. So that boosters and waning immunity are considered.

The ratio has been holding steady.

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Postby Redman » January 20th, 2022, 7:08 pm

So the UK is reducing deaths attributed to Covid.
Where there are no underlying co morbids, pre existing condition on the death cert.

Up to q3 2021 the figures seem over started by 8 times

137k down to to 17k ish.
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Postby paid_influencer » January 20th, 2022, 7:10 pm

between covid and climate change, next decade going to be a major collapse of civilization. The system already past the tipping point - no recovery possible, it going to happen. The signs are there. Things falling apart. The supply chain is deep and complex and can hide the instability and attempting to correct itself but it will fail once a big enough stressor (or group of stressors driven by climate change) is put on it. And then the whole house of cards comes down. No food on the island. Major infrastructure (electricity, water, communications) stops working. No oxygen in the hospital. The police service cannot roster. Riots, protests, looting, PoS burning, governments collapsing, dictators arising, ethnic killings, genocide, people dead in the street, burning of temples, desecration of religious symbols, death and chaos death and chaos.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 94213 (+579) cases, 2973 (+22) deaths, 15436 active, 75804 recovered in T&T

Postby adnj » January 20th, 2022, 7:16 pm

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Dohplaydat wrote:Assuming we might be at all Omicron within a week or two, just want to say 1 detected Omicron case should see 5 times less deaths in Trinidad.

However, given our testing capacity limits (Omicron surges had 5 times more infections than Delta) we won't actually know the true number of cases which was already severely underestimated.

So basically don't expect a drastic fall in deaths until mid to late February.


i think i have it.
sore throat since last night. slight fever. diarrhea which got worse today. back pain. mild bad feeling like my body fighting something inside. chills. fver gone with panadol but i start to cough a lil bit and nose itching. sore throat got worse, like a constant burning and hot breath feeling in my throat. Got the Pfizer 3rd shot just after Christmas so i hope i pull thru. i self-quarantine for the next 2 weeks. if not, well bye everybody. somebody buy milk n pampers for hover11 irl.


after seeing >1000 cases today it obvious that omicron in the system full now and that real number could be 10x. Where i going to spend $900 to get a PCR? And everybody thinking the same, only spending that PCR money if i hoping a plane. Let terrance take all the rapid self -test that all other countries giving away for free to their citizens and let he take it and push up between he leg, dat muddacont.


"somebody buy milk n pampers for hover11 irl." - Cold.

CDC data showed the most common symptoms so far are cough, fatigue, congestion and a runny nose.

Overall, the symptoms for COVID reported by the CDC include:

Fever or chills

Cough

Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing

Fatigue

Muscle or body aches

Headache

New loss of taste or smell

Sore throat

Congestion or runny nose

Nausea or vomiting

Diarrhea
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Postby adnj » January 20th, 2022, 7:18 pm

Austria Just Mandated Covid Vaccines For Almost All Adults — Fines Could Follow

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Austrian lawmakers passed Europe’s first near-universal coronavirus vaccine mandate Thursday, which will subject the country’s unvaccinated adults to fines as early as March, a strict measure as Austria — and the rest of Europe — contends with spiking numbers of Covid-19 cases.

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The vaccination law passed in Austria’s parliament 137-33, the Associated Press and Vienna-based newspaper Der Standard reported, with backing from Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer and his center-right People’s Party.

The law reportedly requires everyone ages 18 and over to get vaccinated, with narrow exceptions for pregnant women, people who can’t take the vaccines due to a medical condition and people who recovered from Covid-19 less than six months ago.

Police can start checking people’s vaccination status March 15, and unvaccinated residents who don’t comply with multiple government reminders to get the shot could face an initial fine of up to 600 euros, or around $679, Politico reports.

The country also introduced a vaccine lottery Thursday, aiming to entice unvaccinated Austrians by offering a chance at a 500 euro ($566) prize (many U.S. states had similar perks last year, though one study found they had virtually no effect on vaccination rates).

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Postby paid_influencer » January 20th, 2022, 8:24 pm

hitler was from austria

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Postby paid_influencer » January 20th, 2022, 8:27 pm

Redman wrote:So the UK is reducing deaths attributed to Covid.
Where there are no underlying co morbids, pre existing condition on the death cert.

Up to q3 2021 the figures seem over started by 8 times

137k down to to 17k ish.


In the pre-covid times, pneumonia was called "the old man's friend," because that was the way elderly people died.

better gauge of covid's impact would be to look at how many excess deaths there were in 2021 compared to 2019.

or the decrease in life expectancy

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Postby pugboy » January 20th, 2022, 8:33 pm

pneumonia is what usually finishes you off when your body is weak and immunocomprised
eg hiv patients typically die from that as the slightest germ in air breathed in can infect them

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Postby adnj » January 20th, 2022, 8:41 pm

paid_influencer wrote:hitler was from austria
Irrelevant.

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Postby paid_influencer » January 20th, 2022, 8:45 pm

he was from austria tho

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Postby hover11 » January 20th, 2022, 8:48 pm

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Postby MaxPower » January 20th, 2022, 8:48 pm

paid_influencer wrote:between covid and climate change, next decade going to be a major collapse of civilization. The system already past the tipping point - no recovery possible, it going to happen. The signs are there. Things falling apart.


Yeh bro,

Just like the healthcare system supposed to collapse over a year now. ICU capacity is critical.

The signs are there. Things falling apart.

Things so bad right now that Carnival 2022 is a discussion.

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Postby st7 » January 20th, 2022, 8:49 pm

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Postby hover11 » January 20th, 2022, 8:53 pm

MaxPower wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:between covid and climate change, next decade going to be a major collapse of civilization. The system already past the tipping point - no recovery possible, it going to happen. The signs are there. Things falling apart.


Yeh bro,

Just like the healthcare system supposed to collapse over a year now. ICU capacity is critical.

The signs are there. Things falling apart.

Things so bad right now that Carnival 2022 is a discussion.
Max,

Well you know after carnival , the song they will sing is no more beds and we at a critical stage. Culture minister said all research conducted proved that carnival was given the green light to be safe and capable to be held this year, meanwhile doctors on cnc3 interview are in total disagreement

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Postby adnj » January 20th, 2022, 8:58 pm

paid_influencer wrote:he was from austria tho
Incorrect? No.

Irrelevant.

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Postby adnj » January 20th, 2022, 9:05 pm

MaxPower wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:between covid and climate change, next decade going to be a major collapse of civilization. The system already past the tipping point - no recovery possible, it going to happen. The signs are there. Things falling apart.


Yeh bro,

Just like the healthcare system supposed to collapse over a year now. ICU capacity is critical.

The signs are there. Things falling apart.

Things so bad right now that Carnival 2022 is a discussion.
Hospital resource needs are expected to triple; reaching a level one-third greater the last peak usage.

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Postby hover11 » January 20th, 2022, 9:07 pm

adnj wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:between covid and climate change, next decade going to be a major collapse of civilization. The system already past the tipping point - no recovery possible, it going to happen. The signs are there. Things falling apart.


Yeh bro,

Just like the healthcare system supposed to collapse over a year now. ICU capacity is critical.

The signs are there. Things falling apart.

Things so bad right now that Carnival 2022 is a discussion.
Hospital resource needs are expected to triple; reaching a level one-third greater the last peak usage.

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The sky isn't falling , we will manage just as the other times

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Postby PariaMan » January 21st, 2022, 12:26 am

Antivaxxers where I work getting hit hard right now with covid . Hope they pull thru

Quite a few of them home real sick

This is going to play out more and more as omicron becomes dominant

Buckle your seatbelts we in for a rough ride

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 21st, 2022, 12:28 am

PariaMan wrote:Antivaxxers where I work getting hit hard right now with covid . Hope they pull thru

Quite a few of them home real sick

This is going to play out more and more as omicron becomes dominant

Buckle your seatbelts we in for a rough ride


You ever try to encourage them to get the vaccine?

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Postby PariaMan » January 21st, 2022, 12:53 am

Just a couple guys in my department. They recently took their first shots

The rest are in other departments and they are union people who are militant antivaxxers. It's like their identity now and they are unlikely to change

Overall vaccination rate is less than 50 percent already 4 deaths with at least one with damaged lungs all unvaccinated with one partially vaccinated
Mmoney607 wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Antivaxxers where I work getting hit hard right now with covid . Hope they pull thru

Quite a few of them home real sick

This is going to play out more and more as omicron becomes dominant

Buckle your seatbelts we in for a rough ride


You ever try to encourage them to get the vaccine?

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Postby daring dragoon » January 21st, 2022, 4:46 am

PariaMan wrote:Antivaxxers where I work getting hit hard right now with covid . Hope they pull thru

Quite a few of them home real sick

This is going to play out more and more as omicron becomes dominant

Buckle your seatbelts we in for a rough ride



they said the same when delta first arrived in trinidad and most were able to prevent it with the 3 W's so the same will be for omicron. only the foolish mask wearers and people who dont follow the 3 W's have to worry also the cloth mask wearers and the surgical mask wearers. the N95 wears and 3W'S dont need to panic. Omicron will fizzle out.

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Postby adnj » January 21st, 2022, 5:34 am

daring dragoon wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Antivaxxers where I work getting hit hard right now with covid . Hope they pull thru

Quite a few of them home real sick

This is going to play out more and more as omicron becomes dominant

Buckle your seatbelts we in for a rough ride



they said the same when delta first arrived in trinidad and most were able to prevent it with the 3 W's so the same will be for omicron. only the foolish mask wearers and people who dont follow the 3 W's have to worry also the cloth mask wearers and the surgical mask wearers. the N95 wears and 3W'S dont need to panic. Omicron will fizzle out.
Perhaps people in your circle said that. No health agency said anything of the sort. What was said was that delta was more infectious and more people will become infected.

The same applies to omicron.

Fact: Wearing masks is an effective protective measure to help reduce the infection and spread of Omicron.

Myth: Face masks are useless against Omicron as the gaps in them are larger than the virus.

Based on the evidence that we have so far, all preventive measures that work against the Delta variant continue to be effective against Omicron – and this includes mask wearing. Omicron is moving so quickly that, in addition to vaccination, all other preventive measures  – wearing a mask; cleaning hands; physical distancing; avoiding closed, confined or crowded spaces; coughing or sneezing into a bent elbow or tissue; and ensuring good ventilation – are needed to stem the wave of infection and protect health workers and systems.

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Postby matr1x » January 21st, 2022, 6:41 am

Mmoney607 wrote:
matr1x wrote:Its only that high because of the backlog. Not because of any spike


Yea, the machine was down since early January



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Postby gastly369 » January 21st, 2022, 8:01 am

daring dragoon wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Antivaxxers where I work getting hit hard right now with covid . Hope they pull thru

Quite a few of them home real sick

This is going to play out more and more as omicron becomes dominant

Buckle your seatbelts we in for a rough ride



they said the same when delta first arrived in trinidad and most were able to prevent it with the 3 W's so the same will be for omicron. only the foolish mask wearers and people who dont follow the 3 W's have to worry also the cloth mask wearers and the surgical mask wearers. the N95 wears and 3W'S dont need to panic. Omicron will fizzle out.
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Postby adnj » January 21st, 2022, 8:09 am

CDC Says to 'Avoid' 22 Destinations — Including Israel, Caribbean Islands, and Australia

Many countries on the list continue to welcome American tourists although the CDC designates them as 'high risk' for spread of COVID-19.

These are the destinations the CDC has designated this week under its highest travel warning:

Albania

Argentina

Australia

Bahrain

Bermuda

Bolivia

Cape Verde

Egypt

Grenada

Guyana

Israel

Panama

Qatar

Saint Kitts and Nevis

Saint Lucia

São Tomé and Príncipe

Sint Maarten

Suriname

The Bahamas

British Virgin Islands

Turks and Caicos

Uruguay

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel ... isory-list

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Postby Redman » January 21st, 2022, 8:13 am

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Redman wrote:So the UK is reducing deaths attributed to Covid.
Where there are no underlying co morbids, pre existing condition on the death cert.

Up to q3 2021 the figures seem over started by 8 times

137k down to to 17k ish.


In the pre-covid times, pneumonia was called "the old man's friend," because that was the way elderly people died.

better gauge of covid's impact would be to look at how many excess deaths there were in 2021 compared to 2019.

or the decrease in life expectancy


DR James Cambell did a video with the excess numbers discussed, and the above details.

Freedom of Info initiative..is the title of the vid.

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Postby redmanjp » January 21st, 2022, 9:11 am

Redman wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
Redman wrote:So the UK is reducing deaths attributed to Covid.
Where there are no underlying co morbids, pre existing condition on the death cert.

Up to q3 2021 the figures seem over started by 8 times

137k down to to 17k ish.


In the pre-covid times, pneumonia was called "the old man's friend," because that was the way elderly people died.

better gauge of covid's impact would be to look at how many excess deaths there were in 2021 compared to 2019.

or the decrease in life expectancy


DR James Cambell did a video with the excess numbers discussed, and the above details.

Freedom of Info initiative..is the title of the vid.


more like clarifying that most deaths were also associated with NCDs which we already know- doesn't mean that covid wasn't a factor or the main factor in many cases nor does it mean that they would have been hospitalized or died anyway without covid.

as i have said before my grand mother, mom and a few aunts all have diabetes- none of them are hospitalized with it, bedridden or died from it yet. my grandmother has had it for decades and has lived with it and is now in her 90s. however if they got covid it will most certainly send them to hospital and possibly end up killing them, especially if they were not vaccinated.

the real deaths that are not associated with covid are like those who were hospitalized with something else, a heart attack, injuries, etc. and happen to test +ve then died.

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Postby matr1x » January 21st, 2022, 9:14 am

Again...is it covid killing, or incompetent hospital staff?

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Postby Redman » January 21st, 2022, 9:23 am

I think the new numbers say that of your below 65 and healthy your risks are greatly reduced.


With the virus evolving as it has, treatment should evolve as well.

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Postby fokhan_96 » January 21st, 2022, 9:45 am

matr1x wrote:Again...is it covid killing, or incompetent hospital staff?
Yes, the 5.5 million deaths around the world is due to incompetent hospital staff, nothing to do with the virus.

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