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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 94213 (+579) cases, 2973 (+22) deaths, 15436 active, 75804 recovered in T&T

Postby adnj » January 26th, 2022, 8:59 pm

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Vaccines ineffective in most cases and 8 times more unvaccinated are dead

Depends on how you define ineffective
The current vaccines are only ineffective if a person chooses not to take one.
The current vaccine is not a vaccine if I can still contract and transmit the intended ailment.

Try harder.


The reason that you never create a post that makes any sense is that your underlying beliefs are incorrect.

You will doubtlessly never question your assumptions either. But I just don't want to let a nikka believe he can keep getting away with the same shitt everyday.

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Postby hover11 » January 26th, 2022, 9:04 pm

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Vaccines ineffective in most cases and 8 times more unvaccinated are dead

Depends on how you define ineffective
The current vaccines are only ineffective if a person chooses not to take one.
The current vaccine is not a vaccine if I can still contract and transmit the intended ailment.

Try harder.


The reason that you never create a post that makes any sense is that your underlying beliefs are incorrect.

You will doubtlessly never question your assumptions either. But I just don't want to let a nikka believe he can keep getting away with the same shitt everyday.
So you are saying that the vaccine wukkin and ppl not dying even after being fully vaccinated and boosted when contracting the virus. The main ppl it was aimed to protect, the not so healthy ones are still succumbing to such. So what was the sense in taking 2 or 3 shots and STILL dying from covid 19. Please elaborate...

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Postby MaxPower » January 26th, 2022, 9:06 pm

People who are following the protocols strictly are not getting infected.

Fact.

Anyone who ra ra in and saying they wore their masks etc and still got it fell short somewhere.

Follow the protocols people.

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Postby st7 » January 26th, 2022, 9:11 pm

MaxPower wrote:People who are following the protocols strictly are not getting infected.

Fact.

Anyone who ra ra in and saying they wore their masks etc and still got it fell short somewhere.

Follow the protocols people.


dont do this. you will get covid if you follow protocols, especially when you get vaccinated.

(what antivaxxers sound like)

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Postby hover11 » January 26th, 2022, 9:12 pm

MaxPower wrote:People who are following the protocols strictly are not getting infected.

Fact.

Anyone who ra ra in and saying they wore their masks etc and still got it fell short somewhere.

Follow the protocols people.
X3000

Everybody who was infected quick to say they were following the protocols and doing what was required yet they tested positive.

Wear a proper mask, sanitize, lysol and watch your distance.

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Postby adnj » January 26th, 2022, 9:20 pm

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Vaccines ineffective in most cases and 8 times more unvaccinated are dead

Depends on how you define ineffective
The current vaccines are only ineffective if a person chooses not to take one.
The current vaccine is not a vaccine if I can still contract and transmit the intended ailment.

Try harder.


The reason that you never create a post that makes any sense is that your underlying beliefs are incorrect.

You will doubtlessly never question your assumptions either. But I just don't want to let a nikka believe he can keep getting away with the same shitt everyday.
So you are saying that the vaccine wukkin and ppl not dying even after being fully vaccinated and boosted when contracting the virus. The main ppl it was aimed to protect, the not so healthy ones are still succumbing to such. So what was the sense in taking 2 or 3 shots and STILL dying from covid 19. Please elaborate...


How many would have died without any vaccine?

I understand that YOU don't want to get vaccinated. And nobody gives a shitt about that. You just don't seem to apprceciate that nobody gives a shitt about whether you get vaccinated.

Try to learn what "trying harder" means.
Then try harder.

At least a half million seniors in the EU alone

WHO/ECDC: Nearly half a million lives saved by COVID-19 vaccination in less than a year

25 Nov 2021

A new study by the WHO Regional Office for Europe and European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) published in Eurosurveillance estimates that 470,000 lives have been saved among those aged 60 years and over since the start of COVID-19 vaccination roll-out in 33 countries across the WHO European Region.

This estimate does not include lives saved by vaccinating people less than 60 years nor lives saved from the indirect effect of vaccination because of a reduction in transmission.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-even ... accination
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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 94213 (+579) cases, 2973 (+22) deaths, 15436 active, 75804 recovered in T&T

Postby adnj » January 26th, 2022, 9:25 pm

MaxPower wrote:People who are following the protocols strictly are not getting infected.

Fact.

Anyone who ra ra in and saying they wore their masks etc and still got it fell short somewhere.

Follow the protocols people.
Human error? That is where all NPIs fail. And there is always human error.

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Postby ed360123 » January 26th, 2022, 9:26 pm

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Vaccines ineffective in most cases and 8 times more unvaccinated are dead

Depends on how you define ineffective
The current vaccines are only ineffective if a person chooses not to take one.
The current vaccine is not a vaccine if I can still contract and transmit the intended ailment.

Try harder.
That's not how this works. You can get the Flu and even chickenpox and measles after getting those vaccines. You don't get to decide what is or isn't a vaccine.

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Postby paid_influencer » January 26th, 2022, 9:26 pm

adnj wrote:I understand that YOU don't want to get vaccinated. And nobody gives a shitt about that.


k then, it's settled, let's move on.

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Postby Chimera » January 26th, 2022, 9:33 pm

I now full out a travelpass thing online for a relative who returning to Canada on Friday.

Nice straightforward process. They warning you up front you subject to a 5000 Canadian fine if you try to enter unvaccinated or with a positive covid test or if you had covid in the last 15 days.

In the app you have to put a address for a quarantine plan in case you are randomly selected when you land for a pcr test and test positive.

When you put the address for the quarantine plan you have additional info to state if you can avoid everyone at this location, if its a nursing home or dorm or shared facility, if you can be self sufficient and safely have your own medicine and necessities.

Need to upload proof of vaccinations and dates and type of vaccine.

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Postby Chimera » January 26th, 2022, 9:35 pm

I glad hover here yes. Makes you realize the reason why the country in the position it is. Thousands of hovers.

Makes you appreciate the non hovers.


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Postby paid_influencer » January 26th, 2022, 9:42 pm

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#tsunamicron so far underwhelming. Two days of 1000+ cases then regular numbers after. Might be the Delta was was so insane this seems mild. Or our testing capacity not picking it up (positivity was like 70-80% after Christmas).
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Postby Chimera » January 26th, 2022, 9:54 pm

Alot of people are not bothering to test. They can no longer afford to be under quarantine and have their entire household under quarantine and pay that 1k for pcr test.

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Postby carluva » January 26th, 2022, 10:29 pm

Lil update for the benefit of all.

I tested today and got back a negative result.

Wife has improved... Sore throat is gone but she still has the occasional dry cough.

Just so curious (but thankful) that we're in the same house and seems like she's the only one who was affected. We share food, drinks etc., sleep in same room breathing in each others air....

All members of household are still taking the precautions and maintaining a distance. Only the kids interact with each other without the masks outside but once they are in the house or around us, masks are worn. I have my mask on at all times when inside as does wifey. Kids are separated for online classes in well ventilated rooms.

Vitamins, Zinc and the hot ginger and tumeric tea is still happening three times a day.

Thankful we're both vaccinated as I'm sure her situation could be alot worse without the vaccine.

Glad I'm negative as well as I can get my booster once we're out of this quarantine.

Quick question as I know y'all may have the answer more accessible. We would like to repeat PCR tests to ensure all is clear before moving back to normal in the home and thereafter once quarantine is done. As she tested positive on Monday, how long should she wait to repeat PCR test to check if she's negative?


Edit: if you have not been vaccinated and are doubtful about benefit, please do so. Including my wife, I know of many vaccinated persons who tested positive, had all sorts of symptoms from mild to severe (but not hospitalised) and all survived.

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Postby Mmoney607 » January 26th, 2022, 10:44 pm

carluva wrote:Lil update for the benefit of all.

I tested today and got back a negative result.

Wife has improved... Sore throat is gone but she still has the occasional dry cough.

Just so curious (but thankful) that we're in the same house and seems like she's the only one who was affected. We share food, drinks etc., sleep in same room breathing in each others air....

All members of household are still taking the precautions and maintaining a distance. Only the kids interact with each other without the masks outside but once they are in the house or around us, masks are worn. I have my mask on at all times when inside as does wifey. Kids are separated for online classes in well ventilated rooms.

Vitamins, Zinc and the hot ginger and tumeric tea is still happening three times a day.

Thankful we're both vaccinated as I'm sure her situation could be alot worse without the vaccine.

Glad I'm negative as well as I can get my booster once we're out of this quarantine.

Quick question as I know y'all may have the answer more accessible. We would like to repeat PCR tests to ensure all is clear before moving back to normal in the home and thereafter once quarantine is done. As she tested positive on Monday, how long should she wait to repeat PCR test to check if she's negative?


Edit: if you have not been vaccinated and are doubtful about benefit, please do so. Including my wife, I know of many vaccinated persons who tested positive, had all sorts of symptoms from mild to severe (but not hospitalised) and all survived.


You shouldn't repeat pcr test to use as criteria for release from isolation. The test could/would be positive long after the person is no longer infectious. A ten day isolation period is sufficient for someone with mild symptoms.

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Postby Chimera » January 26th, 2022, 10:45 pm

Give it atleast a 2 weeks

Thats what plenty workplaces want to clear you to return to work

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Postby redmanjp » January 26th, 2022, 11:09 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:Give it atleast a 2 weeks

Thats what plenty workplaces want to clear you to return to work


In that case the employer should pay for the 2nd pcr test.

Going 10 days the last 2 of which u have no symptoms and didn't have to take panadol should be good enough.

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Postby Chimera » January 26th, 2022, 11:14 pm

Unless you're working public service...be prepared to stay home unpaid while waiting for your free government pcr.

Also be prepared to have your whole family under quarantine while you wait.

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Postby drchaos » January 26th, 2022, 11:33 pm

adnj wrote:
matr1x wrote:Tell me all about how the vaccine was halting the spread?

I'll wait
By reducing the overall rate of reproduction.

Try to imagine and understand why removing dry grass slows down a bush fire.

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Who knew this one was a closet anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist ...

Man talking bout how vaccines will affect reproduction. :lol:

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 26th, 2022, 11:34 pm

Worth watching

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Postby adnj » January 26th, 2022, 11:52 pm

drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
matr1x wrote:Tell me all about how the vaccine was halting the spread?

I'll wait
By reducing the overall rate of reproduction.

Try to imagine and understand why removing dry grass slows down a bush fire.

Image


Who knew this one was a closet anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist ...

Man talking bout how vaccines will affect reproduction.
Uninformed response.

You may have thought it a joke but COVID vaccines don't affect fertility. However, COVID-19 apparently does affect male fertility.

But you should already know that.

Sperm quality and absence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in semen after COVID-19 infection: a prospective, observational study and validation of the SpermCOVID test

Result(s)

SARS-CoV-2 RNA was not detected in semen during the period shortly after infection nor at a later time. Mean progressive motility was reduced in 60% of men tested shortly (<1 month) after COVID-19 infection, 37% of men tested 1 to 2 months after COVID-19 infection, and 28% of men tested >2 months after COVID-19 infection. Mean sperm count was reduced in 37% of men tested shortly (<1 month) after COVID-19 infection, 29% of men tested 1 to 2 months after COVID-19 infection, and 6% of men tested >2 months after COVID-19 infection. The severity of COVID-19 infection and the presence of fever were not correlated with sperm characteristics, but there were strong correlations between sperm abnormalities and the titers of SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody against spike 1 and the receptor- binding domain of spike 1, but not against nucleotide, in serum. High levels of antisperm antibodies developed in three men (2.5%).

Conclusion(s)

Semen is not infectious with SARS-CoV-2 at 1 week or more after COVID-19 infection (mean, 53 days). However, couples with a desire for pregnancy should be warned that sperm quality after COVID-19 infection can be suboptimal. The estimated recovery time is 3 months, but further follow-up studies are under way to confirm this and to determine if permanent damage occurred in a minority of men.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 8221021567

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Postby matr1x » January 26th, 2022, 11:57 pm

One of my neighbors died from covid 19...and the death certificate makes no mention of it. Explain that

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Postby adnj » January 27th, 2022, 12:05 am

It didn't happen.

Next.

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Postby matr1x » January 27th, 2022, 12:13 am

He was in hospital for covid 19, was on oxygen and died.


I held the death certificate in my hand

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Postby ScHoolboySoloQ » January 27th, 2022, 2:44 am

My grandma took her 3rd dose of Moderna in mid November and a few hours after she couldn't walk, she got intense headaches, joint pains and severe vertigo, she has been in and out of the hospital for the remainder of the year. It's almost February and she's still getting bad headaches and can't walk for herself. They ran tests on her and aren't finding anything unusual. She was a very active person before the booster now she can't even do her daily routines. Sigh.

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Postby Kronik » January 27th, 2022, 3:45 am

matr1x wrote:He was in hospital for covid 19, was on oxygen and died.


I held the death certificate in my hand
Not the first person I heard say that, ppl infected with COVID die and death was not listed as COVID, like they trying to cover up numbers now or what

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Postby gastly369 » January 27th, 2022, 4:34 am

carluva wrote:Lil update for the benefit of all.

I tested today and got back a negative result.

Wife has improved... Sore throat is gone but she still has the occasional dry cough.

Just so curious (but thankful) that we're in the same house and seems like she's the only one who was affected. We share food, drinks etc., sleep in same room breathing in each others air....

All members of household are still taking the precautions and maintaining a distance. Only the kids interact with each other without the masks outside but once they are in the house or around us, masks are worn. I have my mask on at all times when inside as does wifey. Kids are separated for online classes in well ventilated rooms.

Vitamins, Zinc and the hot ginger and tumeric tea is still happening three times a day.

Thankful we're both vaccinated as I'm sure her situation could be alot worse without the vaccine.

Glad I'm negative as well as I can get my booster once we're out of this quarantine.

Quick question as I know y'all may have the answer more accessible. We would like to repeat PCR tests to ensure all is clear before moving back to normal in the home and thereafter once quarantine is done. As she tested positive on Monday, how long should she wait to repeat PCR test to check if she's negative?


Edit: if you have not been vaccinated and are doubtful about benefit, please do so. Including my wife, I know of many vaccinated persons who tested positive, had all sorts of symptoms from mild to severe (but not hospitalised) and all survived.
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Postby adnj » January 27th, 2022, 6:03 am

Long COVID Symptoms Last for a Year for Some Patients

January 25, 2022

A recent study illustrates that long COVID’s physical, mental, and cognitive symptoms can cling to some patients for at least a year. The patients in the study had to go to intensive care units (ICUs) because of the severity of infection.

The exploratory prospective multicenter cohort study was conducted in the ICUs of 11 Dutch hospitals and published yesterday in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). Investigators included 452 patients aged 16 and older who survived ICU admission during the first COVID-19 surge (March 1-July 1, 2020). The patients were followed up for 1 year following their release from the ICU, and the final follow-up date was June 16, 2021.

The main outcomes were physical symptoms (including frailty, fatigue, and other physical problems), mental symptoms (anxiety, depression, PTSD), and cognitive symptoms self-reported 1 year after ICU treatment.

Of the initial patient cohort, 301 (66.8%) were included in the study. The average age was 61.2 years, the average duration of ICU stay was 18 days, and 71.5% were male. A year after their release from the ICU, 74.3% of patients reported physical symptoms, 26.2% reported mental symptoms, and 16.2% reported cognitive symptoms.

The most commonly reported new physical problems were weakened condition (38.9%), joint stiffness (26.3%), joint pain (25.5%), muscle weakness (24.8%), and myalgia (21.3%).

The respondents indicated that their continued COVID-19 symptoms make it difficult to go about their day-to-day lives, with 58% of ICU survivors saying they had problems returning to work.

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/v ... e-patients

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Postby hover11 » January 27th, 2022, 6:39 am

Kronik wrote:
matr1x wrote:He was in hospital for covid 19, was on oxygen and died.


I held the death certificate in my hand
Not the first person I heard say that, ppl infected with COVID die and death was not listed as COVID, like they trying to cover up numbers now or what
All of sudden ppl dying from pneumonia on death certificates not SARS-CoV-2 or covid-19, normal pneumonia and place of death is caura and couva hospitals lol.

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