COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[MaxPower]

This is exactly how PNM supporters think.
Thats why they created a term called "chile mudda"

Or ok

[Dohplaydat]

last year we were rolling back restrictions with less than 200/day

open back now and watch it explode again. needs to go down to less than 30

Even at less than 30, it won't take long for cases to explode again. Remember on April 9th we were averaging 30 a day and by mid May we were having 700 cases.

Given our current trends, we should have a rolling average of 50 cases per day by mid July. We start some form of reopening then, on say wither July 12th or 19th.

We just have to either open back little by little, for example:

Step 1- Start with outdoor things first like street food, beaches and curbside pickup. If after 3 weeks we have little to no increase, or in all likeliness, a decrease then...
Step 2 - Reopen malls and most businesses. In fact, many businesses can re-open in step 1, but i prefer to space things out. If after 3 weeks and cases till low then...
Step 3 - Reopen offices, but workers should wear masks.

That's it.......if gyms wanna re-open it should be for vaccinated persons only. No way churches and places of worship should reopen. Funerals, prayers, public gatherings and especially weddings should have no more than 10 people.

Until we reach 60% vaccination, we that's all we can do.

Schools should remain closed, but perhaps having them reopen might be the only thing we can allow despite the risks given the importance of education. Hopefully, it all balances out.

But given this sort of phased reopening, we can expect a spike late Aug or September, prompting another lockdown.

[paid_influencer]

MoE needs to get off their tail and figure out how to have effective online education. It's farking 2021 the future is omnichannel learning.

The closest we have to that now is the MoE videos on loop on the former Carnival channel. God bless the person that pitched that idea and it should be greatly expanded into a full-time team.

[redmanjp]

If offices in the non essential public open it should remain at 50% for 2 months let them work from home on rotation. No 100% while this Gamma variant spreading.

Depending on cases at phase 3 or 4 u can perhaps open places of worship at only 25% which what they had b4 they were closed. Then depending on vaccination numbers increase to 50 % a month later. Judging from what I see churches have more discipline with wearing masks than ppl sharing an office space for several hours with each other.

[redmanjp]

Damn. This strain ain't making joke. I hope any unvaccinated trinis returning home when the borders open do the full 14 day quarantine in a state facility. No 7 day business and 7 day home.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-covid-19-variant-could-be-dominant-in-u-s-in-two-to-three-weeks-study-says-11624387427?mod=e2fb

[MaxPower]

Anyone check on rspann?

[Chimera]

One of my suppliers in China send me this. Imagine those 2 persons isolate for 21 days and still spread 2 of the variants in China. Most likely the same thing going to happen here when boarders open.
And China doing mass pcr testing constantly.

[adnj]

Israel says it's facing a new COVID-19 outbreak fueled by the Delta variant, despite having the world's most vaccinated population


Israel says it is battling a new outbreak of COVID-19 that struck despite its success vaccinating its population.

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday described a recent surge in infections as a "new outbreak" in the country.

And the director of the Israeli Health Ministry said about 70% of new infections were the Delta variant.

Israel on Wednesday expanded powers meant to control the surge.

It said health officials could quarantine anyone who had been exposed to the variant, even if they had been vaccinated or previously infected, Reuters reported.

Israel has the world's highest share of its population fully vaccinated, according to Our World in Data.

Its vaccination success means virtually all coronavirus-related restrictions have been removed, apart from requiring some people to quarantine and insisting on measures for international travelers.

The Israeli news outlet Haaretz reported that the 125 new cases the country recorded Monday were the highest daily count in two months.

The Delta variant now makes up most new cases identified in the UK and is making up an increasing proportion of US cases.

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel- ... ess-2021-6

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was used exclusively.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious- ... re-covid19

[hover11]

Wasn't Israel the same country that out lawed the wearing of face mask once people got fully vaccinated just like the US , well look how that backfired and can we stop calling these vaccines because you can still be infected they are simply preventative treatment

Israel says it's facing a new COVID-19 outbreak fueled by the Delta variant, despite having the world's most vaccinated population


Israel says it is battling a new outbreak of COVID-19 that struck despite its success vaccinating its population.

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday described a recent surge in infections as a "new outbreak" in the country.

And the director of the Israeli Health Ministry said about 70% of new infections were the Delta variant.

Israel on Wednesday expanded powers meant to control the surge.

It said health officials could quarantine anyone who had been exposed to the variant, even if they had been vaccinated or previously infected, Reuters reported.

Israel has the world's highest share of its population fully vaccinated, according to Our World in Data.

Its vaccination success means virtually all coronavirus-related restrictions have been removed, apart from requiring some people to quarantine and insisting on measures for international travelers.

The Israeli news outlet Haaretz reported that the 125 new cases the country recorded Monday were the highest daily count in two months.

The Delta variant now makes up most new cases identified in the UK and is making up an increasing proportion of US cases.

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel- ... ess-2021-6

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was used exclusively.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious- ... re-covid19

[katiedido]

Wasn't Israel the same country that out lawed the wearing of face mask once people got fully vaccinated just like the US , well look how that backfired and can we stop calling these vaccines because you can still be infected they are simply preventative treatment

Israel says it's facing a new COVID-19 outbreak fueled by the Delta variant, despite having the world's most vaccinated population


Israel says it is battling a new outbreak of COVID-19 that struck despite its success vaccinating its population.

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday described a recent surge in infections as a "new outbreak" in the country.

And the director of the Israeli Health Ministry said about 70% of new infections were the Delta variant.

Israel on Wednesday expanded powers meant to control the surge.

It said health officials could quarantine anyone who had been exposed to the variant, even if they had been vaccinated or previously infected, Reuters reported.

Israel has the world's highest share of its population fully vaccinated, according to Our World in Data.

Its vaccination success means virtually all coronavirus-related restrictions have been removed, apart from requiring some people to quarantine and insisting on measures for international travelers.

The Israeli news outlet Haaretz reported that the 125 new cases the country recorded Monday were the highest daily count in two months.

The Delta variant now makes up most new cases identified in the UK and is making up an increasing proportion of US cases.

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel- ... ess-2021-6

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was used exclusively.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious- ... re-covid19

Also important to note...40-50% of the new cases are fully vaxxed(with Pfizer).Good news is it's so far little severe illness

[aaron17]

Can someone explain to me why they opening borders soon?

[Dohplaydat]

Wasn't Israel the same country that out lawed the wearing of face mask once people got fully vaccinated just like the US , well look how that backfired and can we stop calling these vaccines because you can still be infected they are simply preventative treatment

Israel says it's facing a new COVID-19 outbreak fueled by the Delta variant, despite having the world's most vaccinated population


Israel says it is battling a new outbreak of COVID-19 that struck despite its success vaccinating its population.

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday described a recent surge in infections as a "new outbreak" in the country.

And the director of the Israeli Health Ministry said about 70% of new infections were the Delta variant.

Israel on Wednesday expanded powers meant to control the surge.

It said health officials could quarantine anyone who had been exposed to the variant, even if they had been vaccinated or previously infected, Reuters reported.

Israel has the world's highest share of its population fully vaccinated, according to Our World in Data.

Its vaccination success means virtually all coronavirus-related restrictions have been removed, apart from requiring some people to quarantine and insisting on measures for international travelers.

The Israeli news outlet Haaretz reported that the 125 new cases the country recorded Monday were the highest daily count in two months.

The Delta variant now makes up most new cases identified in the UK and is making up an increasing proportion of US cases.

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel- ... ess-2021-6

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was used exclusively.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious- ... re-covid19

Hoverfool,

The vaccines are working and working very well, they are just noting that the delta strain is now spreading more in the non-vaccinated population. Everything is relative too, compare us to Israel right now.

What you're witnessing is other countries proactively monitoring thier covid cases unlike Trinidad who ingored massive increases in cases for over 6 weeks.

[Habit7]

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

[MaxPower]

Can someone explain to me why they opening borders soon?

aaron,

I too am wondering why.

We are in NO position to open up and ease any restrictions.

We need more daylight curfews and honestly the people seem to love it.

Look at how many cars are on the road. Can you just imagine the chaos and disregard for all protocols if we go back to normalcy?

All we need is another variant to infect those who feel they could “dress back” because they are vaccinated.

We are not restricting properly.

Now where i can also agree that we can open up and get the economy going, we will be back in the same boat if things flare up again. Now as we can see, no one seems to care about the 10-20 dead here and there….but IF we reach where its 50+ dead a day and bodies rotting and burning on the pavement, we will be forced to lock down again.

It is imperative that we keep our guard UP at ALL time whether restricted or not.

Opening the borders can work if meticulously managed. We have to be more precise/accurate with our PCR tests, vaccinations AND very very very important….the responsibility and monitoring of quarantining. But both you and i know what is going to happen.

[Dohplaydat]

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

Right now the mRNA vaccines, are still the best followed by AZ and J&J, at least right now and they're a lot better than Sinopharm and Sinovac which aren't nearly as good against the delta, south African and P1 variants.

[Dohplaydat]

Can someone explain to me why they opening borders soon?

aaron,

I too am wondering why.

We are in NO position to open up and ease any restrictions.

We need more daylight curfews and honestly the people seem to love it.

Look at how many cars are on the road. Can you just imagine the chaos and disregard for all protocols if we go back to normalcy?

All we need is another variant to infect those who feel they could “dress back” because they are vaccinated.

We are not restricting properly.

Now where i can also agree that we can open up and get the economy going, we will be back in the same boat if things flare up again. Now as we can see, no one seems to care about the 10-20 dead here and there….but IF we reach where its 50+ dead a day and bodies rotting and burning on the pavement, we will be forced to lock down again.

It is imperative that we keep our guard UP at ALL time whether restricted or not.

Opening the borders can work if meticulously managed. We have to be more precise/accurate with our PCR tests, vaccinations AND very very very important….the responsibility and monitoring of quarantining. But both you and i know what is going to happen.

The fact that they chose now to reopen which is one of the most dangerous times given the lack of vaccination and emergence of the delta variant, pretty much means they had no real criteria to decide when to close and reopen. It seems reopening is solely based on CAL not going bankrupt.

IMO borders should have never been closed and should have just been strictly managed with 14 day managed quanratines using the hotels across both islands.

Barbados has a brilliant system and with a half a dozen flights arriving daily, they have kept Covid to exceptionally low levels and doing far more testing and vaccination than us.

[hover11]

Kakasplat,


If you would take the time to understand that the mutations are happening faster than expected what happens when a strain bypasses the immune system which delta plus is already doing making the vaccines useless, would you take another "vaccine" making you a constant lab rat

Wasn't Israel the same country that out lawed the wearing of face mask once people got fully vaccinated just like the US , well look how that backfired and can we stop calling these vaccines because you can still be infected they are simply preventative treatment

Israel says it's facing a new COVID-19 outbreak fueled by the Delta variant, despite having the world's most vaccinated population


Israel says it is battling a new outbreak of COVID-19 that struck despite its success vaccinating its population.

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday described a recent surge in infections as a "new outbreak" in the country.

And the director of the Israeli Health Ministry said about 70% of new infections were the Delta variant.

Israel on Wednesday expanded powers meant to control the surge.

It said health officials could quarantine anyone who had been exposed to the variant, even if they had been vaccinated or previously infected, Reuters reported.

Israel has the world's highest share of its population fully vaccinated, according to Our World in Data.

Its vaccination success means virtually all coronavirus-related restrictions have been removed, apart from requiring some people to quarantine and insisting on measures for international travelers.

The Israeli news outlet Haaretz reported that the 125 new cases the country recorded Monday were the highest daily count in two months.

The Delta variant now makes up most new cases identified in the UK and is making up an increasing proportion of US cases.

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel- ... ess-2021-6

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was used exclusively.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious- ... re-covid19

Hoverfool,

The vaccines are working and working very well, they are just noting that the delta strain is now spreading more in the non-vaccinated population. Everything is relative too, compare us to Israel right now.

What you're witnessing is other countries proactively monitoring thier covid cases unlike Trinidad who ingored massive increases in cases for over 6 weeks.

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[Dohplaydat]

Kakasplat,


If you would take the time to understand that the mutations are happening faster than expected what happens when a strain bypasses the immune system which delta plus is already doing making the vaccines useless, would you take another "vaccine" making you a constant lab rat

[/quote]

Once again, intelligence isn't your forte. The strain isn't bypassing it all the time, learn that things aren't binary in life. The eficacy against it is till quite good, but slightly reduced which is totally expected. Vaccines aren't useless, but your opinion sure is. Another thing your rat sized brain probably won't understand, is that making adjustments to these vaccines for new variants isn't going to result in a new experimental vaccine. We've had more than enough evidence to rule these existing vaccines very safe, adjustments to variants don't change that. Just like how the flu vaccines are updated every year.

[hover11]

So if a variant appears that changes the paradigm and performs outside the norm what then...we just say well the vaccines there and what reinvent the wheel ? The vaccines clearly just here for a time, remember the virus has been here for 18 months and vaccines have been here for 22 weeks

Kakasplat,


If you would take the time to understand that the mutations are happening faster than expected what happens when a strain bypasses the immune system which delta plus is already doing making the vaccines useless, would you take another "vaccine" making you a constant lab rat

Once again, intelligence isn't your forte. The strain isn't bypassing it all the time, learn that things aren't binary in life. The eficacy against it is till quite good, but slightly reduced which is totally expected. Vaccines aren't useless, but your opinion sure is. Another thing your rat sized brain probably won't understand, is that making adjustments to these vaccines for new variants isn't going to result in a new experimental vaccine. We've had more than enough evidence to rule these existing vaccines very safe, adjustments to variants don't change that. Just like how the flu vaccines are updated every year.[/quote]

[aaron17]

I was understanding how the uk variant spreaded rapidly through the borders through youtube vids of dr. John campbell

https://youtu.be/5Wd5Ig8IDPI

If you look at 10:33 timestamp he will explain how it came there.

He said if there was an australian system in which ppl travelling were quaranteed in hotels ....therefore would not be mixing with families and the community.... it would not have this delta spread in uk.

[hover11]

Can't have a system like that in trinidad, ppl not coming to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks or 7 days....when for the most ppl come here for is 2 weeks vacation

I was understanding how the uk variant spreaded rapidly through the borders through youtube vids of dr. John campbell

https://youtu.be/5Wd5Ig8IDPI

If you look at 10:33 timestamp he will explain how it came there.

He said if there was an australian system in which ppl travelling were quaranteed in hotels ....therefore would not be mixing with families and the community.... it would not have this delta spread in uk.

[Dohplaydat]

I was understanding how the uk variant spreaded rapidly through the borders through youtube vids of dr. John campbell

https://youtu.be/5Wd5Ig8IDPI

If you look at 10:33 timestamp he will explain how it came there.

He said if there was an australian system in which ppl travelling were quaranteed in hotels ....therefore would not be mixing with families and the community.... it would not have this delta spread in uk.

I would imagine if our borders officially reopen, the protocol would be vaccinated people do a 7 home quanratine (and test after) while non vacinated do a 7 day state and 7 day home quarantine.

I think honestly, until more of our population is vaccinated, we use all these empty hotels to quanratine all visitors.

All we need to do is look at Barbados, their system is working very well.....they allow vaccinated persons to quanratine for 2 days (they test on arrival and are released once negative).

[Mmoney607]

Kakasplat,

If you would take the time to understand that the mutations are happening faster than expected what happens when a strain bypasses the immune system which delta plus is already doing making the vaccines useless, would you take another "vaccine" making you a constant lab rat

Once again, intelligence isn't your forte. The strain isn't bypassing it all the time, learn that things aren't binary in life. The eficacy against it is till quite good, but slightly reduced which is totally expected. Vaccines aren't useless, but your opinion sure is. Another thing your rat sized brain probably won't understand, is that making adjustments to these vaccines for new variants isn't going to result in a new experimental vaccine. We've had more than enough evidence to rule these existing vaccines very safe, adjustments to variants don't change that. Just like how the flu vaccines are updated every year.

So DPD when you are fully vaccinated would you travel to US and party without a mask?

[Mmoney607]

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

We are not Pfizer fan boys, we are just following "the best vaccine is the one available to you". So we want to know why the 200 people who got Pfizer couldn't take the sinopharm when it was available to them.

[Mmoney607]

Can someone explain to me why they opening borders soon?

Somebody gave them a deadline to open it. We not sure who, but we just know that they were instructed to.

[j.o.e]

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

We are not Pfizer fan boys, we are just following "the best vaccine is the one available to you". So we want to know why the 200 people who got Pfizer couldn't take the sinopharm when it was available to them.

Y’all real fixated on a handful of vaccines. Geez.

[hover11]

Is not about being fixated I seeing some animal farm antics happening here.....take the vaccine in front of you( all of us are equal while some are more equal to others) while we take pfizer

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

We are not Pfizer fan boys, we are just following "the best vaccine is the one available to you". So we want to know why the 200 people who got Pfizer couldn't take the sinopharm when it was available to them.

Y’all real fixated on a handful of vaccines. Geez.

[j.o.e]

Is not about being fixated I seeing some animal farm antics happening here.....take the vaccine in front of you( all of us are equal while some are more equal to others) while we take pfizer

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

We are not Pfizer fan boys, we are just following "the best vaccine is the one available to you". So we want to know why the 200 people who got Pfizer couldn't take the sinopharm when it was available to them.

Y’all real fixated on a handful of vaccines. Geez.

Who is the ‘we’ that took the Pfizer ?

[hover11]

If you really believe that the 200 actually went to an intelligence unit in national security then you seriously misguided.

Is not about being fixated I seeing some animal farm antics happening here.....take the vaccine in front of you( all of us are equal while some are more equal to others) while we take pfizer

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

We are not Pfizer fan boys, we are just following "the best vaccine is the one available to you". So we want to know why the 200 people who got Pfizer couldn't take the sinopharm when it was available to them.

Y’all real fixated on a handful of vaccines. Geez.

Who is the ‘we’ that took the Pfizer ?

[j.o.e]

If you really believe that the 200 actually went to an intelligence unit in national security then you seriously misguided.

Is not about being fixated I seeing some animal farm antics happening here.....take the vaccine in front of you( all of us are equal while some are more equal to others) while we take pfizer

Where are the Pfizer fanboys?

We are not Pfizer fan boys, we are just following "the best vaccine is the one available to you". So we want to know why the 200 people who got Pfizer couldn't take the sinopharm when it was available to them.

Y’all real fixated on a handful of vaccines. Geez.

Who is the ‘we’ that took the Pfizer ?

I didn’t ask you what I believe, I ask you who took it.